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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 01:51 AM
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For those scared about the Zogby poll: Remember the right thought they were bouncing back in '06
As others have pointed out the poll is crap and irrelevant Drudge is cherry-picking again.

But, if you're still freaked, remember that in '06 the GOP thought, thanks to Kerry's supposedly-disastrous botched joke, that they had new momentum going into the midterms and that the public was turning on the Dems.

We all know how that turned out.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:41 AM
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1. What I don't understand about now is
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 02:44 AM by butlerd
WHAT are they claiming as THE "game changer"? I haven't seen anything (yet). It seems as though pundits (and McCain) think that things will suddenly and inexplicably "turn around" for McCain/Palin and that they will "surge" to the finish line taking Obama out in the process. I'd love to have some of what they are smoking right now.
:silly:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:44 AM
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2. He's hyped because he claims one day of polling (today) McCain led Obama 48-47
and if McCain has another good day tomorrow things could really get close. I prefer to see what Rasmussen, Hotline, ABC, and Gallup say tomorrow. Gallup showed a big spike today for Obama, ABC, I believe Obama was up by one over yesterday, and Ras showed a 1-point gain for McCain. Oh, and Research 2000/Zogby showed improvement too.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:47 AM
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3. Where does Zog(m)by show that McCain is LEADING Obama?
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 02:47 AM by butlerd
Are you sure you're not looking at the numbers for Arizona (which are actually pretty damning for McCain BTW)?
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:48 AM
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5. It was supposed to be today's polling result, but he put up a lowered "rolling average."
At least, that's what I'm seeing on Zogby's front page.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:52 AM
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6. All I could gather from his home page is that McCain is supposedly within his MOE
However, I don't see the 48-47 McCain "lead" on his home page. Assuming that that his results are correct, however, is 5% a "typical" MOE? That seems kind of high when compared to other polls.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:53 AM
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7. you gotta open the link and read his comments.
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 02:54 AM by book_worm
www.zogby.com


Pollster John Zogby: "Is McCain making a move? The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all. "Obama's lead among women declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on."
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 09:51 AM
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8. O.k. I understand it now
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 09:51 AM by butlerd
I'm just wary of digging too deep into depressing/anxiety-provoking (albeit misleading) news.
:hi:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 02:47 AM
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4. I re-call that 'Rush' said it was the best poll when-------
this was a few years ago--- Bush was way a head and won but that it was a very bad poll when it did not say what 'Rush' wanted. I try not getting to up-tight over polls. I would be a basket case if I thought they were right. Best to wait to nov.5
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