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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 04:40 AM
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Did the media reveal that Bush was an Alcoholic or that McCain had Crashed 5 planes, and if so,
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 04:42 AM by FrenchieCat
when?

I heard that Bush was an alcoholic, but didn't hear about it till after the election...although I heard about his DUI right before....but not that he was an actual alcoholic.

Also, I haven't heard anything from the Corporate media that McCain had crashed 5 planes yet...although I read about it here and there from the alternative progressive media.

Why is that? Should'nt these facts have been really, really huge stories amplified like 24/7 for a few days on all of the Cable and News programs?

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 04:44 AM
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1. Oh Silly Silly FenchieCat....
They never dwell on the ne'er do wells who give the republican party just the right amount of sassy pazzaz...

If the fourth estate took time to peer quizzically behind the Red White and Blue facade that is the republican party, I fear we would only be a one party state...

And where would all the fun come from...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 04:49 AM
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2. But it just ain't right......
I mean, shouldn't voters know this stuff beforehand?

It ain't like we are talking about degrees of separations here.
We're talking about shit that these guys actually did.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 04:51 AM
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3. It surely does seem as if there were two sets of rules...
One for the party that favors the working class and none at all for the party that runs the owning class...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 04:54 AM
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4. Yeah....that about sums it up.
I can't stand these fucking traitors! The corporate media, I mean.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:00 AM
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5. There was very little mention of W's drunken past, or his drug use,
or his daughters drinking, etc. Bush's team warned the press that anyone writing about this would be excluded from covering the White House for all of W's time in office. I have no sources for this, but I did read a bit about it before even that was shut down. Bush is decended from Nazi sympathizers ahd has no respect for the constitution or the concept of "rights".

McCain has a nasty temper, and there have been many reports of his life-long pattern of irresponsible behavior. Much has been whitewashed because of his family connections. For Instance, there is now an investigation into a car accident he was involved in in 1964. Evidently records are still sealed by the Navy.

There is still a lot to be found out about both these guys, and not many are looking.


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:01 AM
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6. Yep. Guess that's what Privilege can get you......
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 09:52 AM
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19. That and the use of fear and intimidation without regard for things like
Ask Sarah Palin about the first ammendment sometime.
W thinks the Bill of Rights is just suggestions.


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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:06 AM
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7. There is never any AIP talk either but then again
maybe this is all for the best. I really like the fact that Barack sticks to the issues, even when he goes negative.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:30 AM
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8. Yeah....but this ain't about Barack. This is about the media,
and how they decide which stories get play, and which don't.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:33 AM
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9. By having Fox News and the rightwing propaganda machine it allows for chaos
and thats all the rightwingers are looking for
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:43 AM
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10. Yep.....
Assholes.

Double standards.

Every Black person Reflects on Obama.....

Meanwhile, the drunks and the ruthless careless run the show.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:51 AM
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11. actually the fact he was an alcoholic was well covered
but not what he did. He got alot of Alcoholics in recovery voting for him on that basis actually.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:54 AM
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12. Yep. it was. The OP is forgetting how well that was covered
the thing was, that the MSM covered his alcoholism and supposed recovery/conversion, sympathetically. That's why bushy got mileage out of it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 05:56 AM
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13. Was this before or after the election?
Cause the DUIs I know came out only days before.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:21 AM
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14. Before. There were LOTS of articles and coverage
the thing is that the coverage was almost universally sympathetic- approaching it from the angle that he struggled to overcome his drinking problem and succeeded due to his new found resurgence of faith, blah, blah, blah.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:42 AM
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16. I was in AA at the time and attending virtually daily
and his recovery was a huge topic among AAers and was one reason he had alot of support among people in recovery.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:29 AM
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15. Yes, but Bush was able to wave it off by saying
he found god and that it was a youthful indiscretion. (Republicans are always able to say "youthful indiscretion" if it happened before today - Henry Hyde cheated on his wife when Hyde was in his 40s, but it was still a youthful mistake)

The revelation that he had been arrested for DUI did hurt him in the 2000 elections, supposedly.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:56 AM
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17. Supposedly....which means
if that's what "they" say.

What about McCain's planes crashes though?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 07:17 AM
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18. Seven planes and possibly a car
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