Obama +8 in PA: Muhlenberg poll

[stoge18]

Was O +10 yesterday. Still a very good lead.

http://www.mcall.com/news/elections/all-election-president,0,155695.htmlpage

[FrenchieCat]

1. Oh Noes!

The Notion of Concentrating the wealth to a the few CEOs instead of spreading it must be really working!

[dennis4868]

2. wasn't it a...

13 point lead for Obama on Thursday...WTF is going on....

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. More dennis4868 worry about polls

Hmmm, what word rhymes with poll...?

Transparent.

[FrenchieCat]

5. see thru?

:shrug:

[dennis4868]

8. sorry....i forgot...

no one is aloud to be concerned here....I'll go back in my hole (which rymes with poll).....

[Hope And Change]

9. Good..

crawl back to your hole and never come back dickhead.

[BzaDem]

12. Ya know, every time I see one of your posts, I cringe. Your name is quite misleading.

[Hope And Change]

13. Did anybody attack you in this thread?

[dennis4868]

15. I was thinking the...

same thing...hahaa...

[Hope And Change]

17. Are you still here?LOL.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. You're uber concerned all the time

It's pretty obvious that you're a mccain supporter, but you don't have to be so up front about it.

[dennis4868]

14. HUH?

I'm concerned/upset that a poll is tightening in McCain's favor so I am a McCain supporter?....hahaha...that's like saying that since I am concerned about my child's health it means I must hate my child...okay...wow!

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. You're a McCain supporter and

everybody knows it.

[dennis4868]

20. whatever....

this is very childish....have a good day! GOBAMA!

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. You're a McCain supporter and

a fraud.

It's quite clear, and made clearer every time you poist one of your pathetic "Oh NOOOOES" threads or posts.

[stoge18]

21. Don't fall for this shit.

People are messing with you. It's really easy to disparage with a keyboard. Just ignore it.

The Muhlenberg poll shows a great lead. Here are thhe internals if you'd like to see them:

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/studorgs/polling/pennelection.htm

[dennis4868]

23. thanks stoge18

this is what I wanted to see...:-)

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. Your partner in crime

Big fucking surprise there.

Hand puppets.

[stoge18]

28. Unfortunately no internals from 10/31 yet

They'll post them later, I'm sure. In the meantime enjoye the latest from Rasmussen that shows Obama gaining a point in the spread over yesterday's poll: O 51 / m 46

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

[dennis4868]

29. yep...

I saw that...GREAT NEWS...time is running out on McCain/Palin :-)

[stoge18]

4. Yes, but he's still got 52%

And that's fantastic.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Yep. I just read that headline too.

[dennis4868]

10. good point...

just don't see how a poll could change that much so fast...something is fishy about this poll...I wish we could see the internals...

[jefferson_dem]

6. Bro. Chill with the over-the-top concern comments.

People might start to suspect things. Ya know.

[CreekDog]

16. Republicans coming home to their guy

you don't see Obama's numbers falling as much as McCain's numbers going up.

yes it happpens.

as you will recall, Bill Clinton had a big lead in '92 only to have it shrink to 5 points by election day. the difference this year is that while Obama was leading by even more, a good percentage of the vote was recorded leaving only part of it to be recorded on election day, thus mitigating a late surge by McCain.

[dennis4868]

19. thank you very much for your...

thoughtful response and explanation unlike others here who have very hateful responses...it makes alot of sense what you said :-)

[CreekDog]

26. but you've been pushing the 'why is Obama sinking' stuff way too much

that's why people are losing it with you.

it seems like you are cherrypicking the worst polls for Obama and spending an inordinate amount of time suggesting they are credible in spite of many more polls (and reasons) to think that these polls may be outliers.

just some friendly observations. people are really on edge now and rightly so. DU is not the place to put up posts 'why are we not doing better?' and 'why are our poll numbers bad' (when they in fact aren't) again and again.

[dennis4868]

31. I am not pushing that shit...

that's crazy....I post all national polls whether they are good or bad...sometimes I get a little concerned when I see for example Obama go from 13 points up to 8 points up in 2-3 days like the one that is the subject of the OP...this poll does not make sense to me...that's all...I AM SUSPICIOUS OF THIS POLL...have you seen any posts from me regarding the polls that only have Obama up by 4 points in PA....if I wanted to push the "Obama is sinking meme" i would have posted on these polls as well but I haven't...

[stoge18]

33. Intent vs. Perception

Somebody on this forum posted a very good piece a while back regarding intent vs. perception. I read your response and perceived it as a genuine request for more information. Others read it and perceived you to be.... Well, let's see: a dickhead, a McSame supporter, a troll...

I don't see how anybody can read a "sinking meme" into your response, but everybody perceives things differently. And as Creekdog said, people are one edge.

[dennis4868]

34. i don't see how someone can be perceived...

in any way shape or form as a McCain supporter by being concerned about a poll...so if Obama is talking to his pollsters and he is concerned about a particular state does that mean he is a let's see: a dickhead, a McSame supporter, a troll...Huh?

[stoge18]

36. I hear you.

I used the "ignore" feature for the very first time today. Even if people disagree, I don't see why they can't at least be civil. From what I gather, expressing any kind of concern on DU is viewed as doom and gloom.

But back to my OP, and 8 point lead in PA is a beautiful thing!

[Honeycombe8]

35. Noting the tightening polls in PA jives with what Gov Rendell has been saying.

There is anti-Obama crap, noting ONLY the bad polls. Then there is reasoned analyzing, and rational observation of tightening polls and situations on the ground, such as Governor Rendell has been talking about. He has been urging Obama and surrogates to come back to PA & campaign hard because McCain & Palin are attracting crowds of thousands and making inroads.

But Obama can't go everywhere. It seems that Obama's camp has decided that PA is safe enough for surrogates to go there these last days, while Obama tries to shore things up in other states that are tighter. I can't argue with a campaign that has been historically successful up to this point!

[dennis4868]

32. again if I was cherypicking...

don't you think I would be posting the worst polls for Obama in PA which has him up only by 4 points...others have posted these polls, are you calling them out for it?

[lolamio]

25. Good numbers. Also, remember Obama has a superior ground game in PA. And if you are worried....

Go volunteer and make calls! :)

[AlinPA]

27. It may drop a bit due to the Rev Wright ad playing continuously in W PA.

[KharmaTrain]

30. Gramps Going All In May Mean Losing His Home State

8 Points is a lot of ground to make up in 3 days. Saturation advertising may move the numbers a point or two, but much of those numbers are what they call "soft"...the vast majority of the electorate has decided and there's not enough left in the middle to make up that big of a margin.

This latest gamble on Gramps may just cost him Arizona, North Carolina and Indiana...but then without grabbing a "blue" state, Gramps is toast.