The right is VERY afraid of the Bush/AWOL story

[newsguyatl]

seriously folks, on all levels, i've never seen them come as unglued as they do when the AWOL story comes up... it happened back in february, it's happening now.

is this a good sign? you bet.


look for a trap to be set in the coming day or two -- a call on kerry to denounce the attacks against bush's service... i hope sasso has a glood plan in store.

[MrBenchley]

1. That and the cocaine story

has got them crapping their pants on Delphi....

[cthrumatrix]

25. don't say "glue" so loud in front of shrubya... he's coming off a crack hi

[RedEarth]

34. lol....shouldn't say "paint can" either

[MrBenchley]

39. Keep the magic markers in a locked drawer....

wouldn't want another "pretzel" to attack the war pResident.

[wtmusic]

2. Their RNC bounce was, in stock market parlance,

a 'dead cat' bounce.

Maybe not a good post for this board :D

[calico1]

5. How about a "stuffed cat"

bounce instead? ;)

[Randers]

3. I was wondering how Rush deals with it

(I won't listen to him, myself).

[jjmalonejr]

4. They should be

Make a donation to Texans for Truth if you want to keep this out there.

www.texansfortruth.com

Watch the video, make a donation, pass on the link.

Repeat as needed.

:)

[cthrumatrix]

6. and the Graham book - they are in "deep shit mode" ... spin spin

lie lie...

[barb162]

9. what's this about...please explain

is it about Bush and his time in the Guard

[City Lights]

18. Lucky bush, he hit another trifecta.

bush deserted. (aWol story)
bush snorted. (Kitty Kelley)
bush committed treason. (Senator Graham's book)

[barb162]

7. let Kerry denouce it as lukewarmly

as Bush denounced the swifties. And let the Bush deserter stories KEEP ON COMING!

[ET Awful]

11. Why denounce it at all?

Unlike Bush, there's no connection between Kerry and this information. Kerry doesn't have financial ties to the Globe or CBS. He doesn't have links to Kitty Kelley.

He has no connection to it at all, why denounce?

[newsguyatl]

14. exactly!

BUT the call will still be made by bushco., watch.


even though the attacks seem to be coming from all sides:
the media
527's
individual people


NO kerry ties at all, so NO need to denounce.


the key here is to get bush himself to have to address it, to have to say "i missed SOME time in the guard." that would prove a real defeat for him AND level the playing field with kerry in all the attacks he's been faced with on service.

[barb162]

22. what happens when a reporter sticks a microphone in Kerry's face

and aks what he thinks about the ads. I think he will eventually have to say he has no connection and say they are not in the spirit of running a positive campaign. But let the ads run for at least a few weeks first, let the ads do their damage to the shrubster.

[GingerSnaps]

28. What if Kerry Ignored the questions?

Wouldn't that give the issue even more press?

[ET Awful]

29. Simple. . .

Just say I've been following that story with interest, and I'm certainly curious to here President Bush's response.

[barb162]

36. I like this response (where was that damned deserter again?)

because it's low-key but with all the right wing reporters out there I still think the reporters will push the question again and again and he won't be able to ignore it too long. I want to see the ads run and do damage and then after a few weeks of damage (like 20 points worth), Kerry should come out and say that his campaign is not responsible for them.

[HootieMcBoob]

38. When Bush was asked he said he hadn't seen the ad

Kerry can say the same thing.
example...

Reporter: Do you condemn the ad about Bush's time in the national guard?
Kerry: I haven't seen the ad you're talking about. But, I've said before that that was such a bitter time in America, it's not important what people did back then.
Reporter: But, do you condemn this ad specifically?
Kerry: As I said I haven't seen the ad so I can't comment on it specifically.

[barb162]

44. teehee, hope it works

[barb162]

43. he'll say his namby-pamby usual I bet

"I released all of my records...."

And the damn reporters will leave it at that. They never go after him because all of their stations are owned by GE and the like and they want to keep their jobs. Calling Woodward and Bernstein. What ever happened to reporting like in the good ol' days .

[Jacobin]

26. "I'm sure Mr. Bush* served adequately when he showed up"

Something kinda like that?

:-)

[barb162]

46. or "He showed up?" or

"I'm sure the shrubster served adequately IF he showed up"

[yardwork]

40. I hope that Kerry responds by asking W to release his military records

again!

Remember that excellent letter from Kerry's campaign to the Bush campaign, in which they listed each of the documents that they had requested from the White House?

Democrats need to bring up those missing documents over and over and over again. They include documents about 9/11, national security, and W's service records. They're still missing!

Request those documents over and over and over and over.....

[ET Awful]

8. Yup, I'm even seeing it just from posters on other boards who

are having conniptions and saying the same old Scotty BS of "this was all disproven long ago." Of course, they ignore all the new documents and NEW questions about coke-chimps "service."

[cthrumatrix]

12. let Kitty calm them down with w's cola days...sit back ..it's story time!

[TexasSissy]

10. Yes. Bush looked worried today.

I don't always agree when others say the Repubs are nervous, but I think on this one, that is correct. Wonder why he's so nervous? His base apparently doesn't care what the heck he has ever done (or not done) or will ever do, as long as he pushes religion and pays for votes with tax cuts. But I guess the Independents might.

[PATRICK]

19. Maybe other things too

Putin seems steaming mad the way Bush people are gaming his position and nation. Bush is accumulating so much public scandal and secret, deadly enemies behind the scenes he should not be sleeping well at nights at all.

But then there are those wonderful meds and a hard day's jog!

[northernsoul]

21. and remember, Putin is ex-KGB

and world-class ranked Judo practitioner and chess player. In other words, if this guy wants to take you down he'll do it and you won't even know what hit you.

[apnu]

13. of course it bugs them. Their entire platform is based on "strength"

One of the many symbols of that "Strength" is military heroism. But, hey, they made this an issue when they flew him in on the USS Abraham Lincoln so he could show off his "package"

Now that there is a legit veteran running for office, their entire stance on "strength" (as champaign units go) suddenly goes out the window. This is an example of the GOP hanging itself by its own noose. They are rah-rah for war and have never expected being challenged by a lowly Lieutenant in the military.

Another thing they stand on is their supposed "purity" In other words, they aren't drugged out psychos... according to the GOP myth, that's our bag baby. But all this coke nonsense has them totally blindsided by their own petard. (And Oxy-Rush helped too :) )

[cthrumatrix]

15. shrubya fans can't stand the light of truth... their leader is a coward

and a cola hound.

[apnu]

24. that just about sums it up

They are learning one of the harshest lessons in the world: 'The truth hurts'

I wonder if there aren't anymore David Brock or Huffington like defections comming in the near future.

[Cronus Protagonist]

17. That's true and it makes me wonder why Bush is afraid to tell us the truth

..about his military service, his drug use, his crimes and why is he even keeping his Texas driving record secret?

Why is he afraid to come clean with the American people? I thought he was supposed to be on our side! What on earth can he be hiding behind all that secrecy? I just can't trust him.

Thank God Kerry's got tons of experience going after government law breaking. And Edwards is a top lawyer as well. I think I can trust that they'll get to the bottom of it for us after they're elected.

It will feel good to get back to being America again after November 2!


http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[apnu]

31. Indeed, but then his whole "campaign" is based on a pack of lies

And that is, of course, the M.O. of the GOP isn't it? But now the harsh light of truth is finally shining on them and they are scattering like the cockroaches that they are.

IMO, the only reason the modern GOP maintains any level of power in the US is because they excel at lying. What's more, they also excel at making the other side look like they are lying.

Seriously, try to name a "good" Republican in the Senate. Try to name just one Republican that really is what he says he is. Come up with one Republican who really is in it for his constituents, who actually seems like he believes in the legislation and that the laws he's trying to pass are genuinely in the best interests of all the American people.

I can think of some Democrats in the Senate that fit this criteria, but I'm drawing a blank on any Republican.

McCain is the only one who comes close. However, he's so twisted up and sold out to the Chimp, that any credibility he's had is long shot. Poor McCain... they Powell'd him.

My point? The GOP lives, breathes, and grows cow pies. And when your bread and butter is lying and scamming the public, then your greatest enemy is the truth.

All ghouls hate the light.

[Gman]

16. Kerry should denounce the attacks IF they're lies

but they're not lies. The attacks are as factual as paper TANG records.

[dalfollo]

20. "I think Bush served honorably....

we join with him condemming all of these 'printing groups'....I don't believe we ought to have 'the press'. I think they're bad for the system....I frankly thought we'd gotten rid of it when Congress passed the Patriot act."

[Cassandra]

27. So he should say...

that he would denounce them if they were untrue but sadly, they appear to be supported by documentation (with a sad look on his face). He should then call on Bush to explain the NEW documents.

[cheshire]

23. How soon do we see another terrorist alert.

[realcountrymusic]

30. Fear not . . .

As I mentioned in a post on an earlier AWOL thread, Kerry *should* denounce this story, often, and use the word "AWOL" when he does it. Phrases like "I think it is irrelevant to this campaign, and if the President says he served honorably and did not go AWOL, his word is good enough for me." Or: "Many young men had conflicted feelings about the Vietnam war. President Bush served honorably. It was a confusing time, and memories and records have become distorted with the years." Or: "Unlike some on the other side, I will not condemn any man who chose to serve his country, no matter what form his service took."

The more Kerry denounces the story, the more the substance of the story will be repeated in the echo chamber. It's the Brer Rabbit strategy. It's the way Rove played "Smear Vets for Crap." Kerry can have his cake and make Bush eat it too. He should also repeatedly denounce the "scandalous charges in THAT book," and insist that "this campaign needs to refocus on the important issues facing this country, not what may or may not have happened 20 or 30 years ago." "The question of whether the President fulfilled his obligation to this country is for the Department of Defense to decide. I trust that any allegations with merit will be fully investigated, and I am certain that a man of honor, such as our President, would welcome a full and complete investigation to set the record straight and clear his name." "The charge of Absent Without Leave in a time of war is one of the most serious accusations one can make, and frankly, one I am uncomfortable repeating, even to decry it. My campaign is focused on the future, not the past. The President's past is a matter for the American people to judge, and since he has assured us he served honorably and was discharged honorably, I will take him at his word, JUST AS I DID WHEN I VOTED TO AUTHORIZE HIS PURSUIT OF THE WAR IN IRAQ TO COMBAT THE THREAT OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION." "As a Veteran myself, I always give the Commander in Chief the benefit of the doubt. Surely Mr. Bush loves his country far too much to have avoided service in her hour of need."

You get the picture? Kill him with kindness on this one. The more we insist it is a non-issue, the more of an issue it becomes.

RCM

[cthrumatrix]

35. maybe NOT say anything for a few days -- first - let it reach out

[Rob in B_more]

42. or better

"I think it is irrelevant to this campaign, and if the President says he served honorably and did not go AWOL, his word is good enough for me, no wait I took his word for it when I voted to let him threaten the use of force in Iraq. He lied to me and the American people then, and he has lied concistently since, he is a pathological liar. It may be irrelevant to the campaign but it is probably true if he says it is a lie.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. The pressure to find Osama is on.

[cthrumatrix]

48. ding ding ding...they are screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bullimiami]

33. a good response...

"I dont care if Bush didnt want to serve in Vietnam. He was not alone. Its lying and hypocracy that I have a problem with. If there is something embarassing in his past...in his military records...he should just come out and be honest for once and be a man about it."

[Kimber Scott]

37. They ought to be scared and Kerry should NOT let them off the hook.

Bush has sent 1000s of Americans to their deaths when he couldn't even show up for duty. He failed to complete a required annual physical examination after this country spent $1,000,000.00 training him to fly fighter jets which he was supposed to use the protect this country should we come under a surprise attack.

He failed to protect us then and he failed to protect us as president. He is a failure, period. They have reason to be afraid.

[Mike L]

41. Sasso? Forget him. James Carville is part of the campaign staff now.

Kerry should listen to Carville.

[Kazak]

45. 'Cos they know where this story ultimately leads...

Lots of white powdery stuff. :evilgrin:

[WillyT]

47. 511 Articles And Growing !!!

Link: http://news.google.com/news?q=bush&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

Yeah baby!!!

:bounce:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

49. Down to 498 now

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