I was just told, "You're a vet. How can you not support McCain?'...

[cynatnite]

I explained McCain's horrible record on veterans and didn't get much of a response. I'm still stunned by the assumption that because I'm a vet it means automatically supporting McStain.

[Thrill]

1. The Disabled Vets have a devastating radio ad playing in NC

on how low they rate McCain and how high they rate Obama. You should look for it and send it to the guy.

[evlbstrd]

2. I got the same response regarding Bush.

I said it's because I'm a vet that I don't support him. Same with McCain.

[avaistheone1]

3. Most of the armed services in Iraq are making their donations to Obama.

[RagAss]

4. Why isn't this stat getting out enough in the MSM?

[pansypoo53219]

17. the gnews buy the POW

story. forget the facts that in DC, mcFucked it horrid for vets. the VFW and shit should go beyond looking at the press.

[IsItJustMe]

5. Repug's make the false assumption that they own the American flag and since many of them put a

"Support our Troops" bumper sticker on their car, they somehow think that that is enough for them to own the patriotic issue. Of course, there is much more to patriotism than superficialities.

[schrodinger_I]

6. There are more Democrats in the military than people think

When I was on Active Duty, I met many fellow democrats. They didn't go around and advertise because a lot of the higher ups were Rethugs.
Showing your cards at least in a political sense would have been career limiting.

[Lost-in-FL]

7. "And you are so patriotic, how can you vote for Kerry or a democrat"

That was in 2004. A fellow vet at work she could not believe I would vote for a librul. My answer was: What the hell... you think democrats are not patrioric? does the GOP have a monopoly on patriotism?
This was followed by :crickets:

[Brazenly Liberal]

8. My husband wears a "Veterans for Obama" button

It's gotten him some strange looks and a lot of opportunities to explain why a vet should vote Democratic on Tuesday. Several local women who have sons in Iraq right now have changed from R to D because of this issue.

[alfredo]

11. I have one also. I've gotten some good responses, even at the VA.

I'm a disabled vet. After forty years I finally got compensation for my service related injury. Cashed the first check, bought groceries and a bottle of Cabernet Merlot.

[Brazenly Liberal]

14. Thank you, alfredo

Thank you for your service - not just as a member of the military, but also as a vet supporting change to make things better for all vets. The way our government treats veterans is disgraceful and needs to change.

[alfredo]

18. The Walter Reed scandal was good for all veterans. It made the suits

lessen their grip on those below who felt it's their duty to give good treatment to veterans, and a fair hearing on service related injuries. It's not perfect, but much improved. Keep pressure on the government to stand up for the soldier, past and present.

[Irishonly]

16. Good For You

My dad met my mom in a VA hospital. He was there because of back injuries received during WWII. He was a paratrooper. The VA would never classify him as a disabled vet. The government's position was his back problems were caused by something else and workman's comp always said it was his original back injury. He had a total of four back surgeries and walked on sheer will power.

His greatest lesson to me was to be tough and not bitter. He was a yellow dog democrat and president of the local VFW. He worked hard for the Nam vets. When he passed away in 1986 you couldn't find SRO. Dad never talked about war, only that it was terrible and I lost count of all of the vets telling me how important he was in their lives.

I am thrilled you got your benefits. I imagine my dad is also.

[alfredo]

20. Veterans have always been treated shabbily. It is up to us to keep that

from happening on our watch. I was a Vietnam era vet and we were treated like shit by the VA. We were losers, druggies, and hippies. They didn't want anything to do with us. That's why it took me nearly forty years to return to the VA. My injury came from my work, not on the battlefield. My battlefield was invisible

[Irishonly]

24. I know many Nam Vets

Too many have been shafted. My dad didn't really understand PTSD but he believed the vets coming to him and fought like the dickens for them. They knew he didn't understand but also knew he was on their side. He wasn't involved nationally but he made the small Iowa town where he lived a better place. I am/was very proud of him.

[alfredo]

38. You should be proud. Viet Vets "lost the war" in the eyes of too many

of the old Vets. They saw on TV the undisciplined manner some showed. It wasn't their fault, discipline fell apart near the end. The soldiers knew the war was shit. All they were doing was staying alive and making sure their brothers survived too. That anger and breakdown of discipline was army wide. I remember even at our post high on an African volcano, there was much unhappiness. We started doubting the mission. Some of us were very unhappy over our government's response to the USS Liberty murders. Our government sided with Israel and against our brothers. There were desertions, drug and alcohol problems. Fighting and sabotage was commonplace.

[Bubbha Jo]

15. I wear one also and have had great comments about it.

I had a lot of vets I ran into in this really red town asking where they could get one so I bought extras and passed them around.

I've got a Obama bumper sticker on the back of my car right next to my "Proud Parent of a Soldier" one. Every where I post I put:

This veteran is voting for Obama. Just say no to another neocon.

[rasputin1952]

9. Considering the way McCain has dealt w/Vet issues...

or should I say not dealt w/Vet issues.

The man is the quintessential "anti-Vet"...considering what he went thorough, one would think he'd be a tad more understanding...the man is a monster...x(

[tularetom]

10. I don't support McCain BECAUSE I am a vet

Nobody's yet asked me that question but that would be my answer.

[Cha]

33. Exactly! If people would open their ears and eyes and

quit it with the BLIV. Beyond Low Information Voters.

[Joe Chi Minh]

12. The currency that the notion that vets favour the Republicans still apparently enjoys,

must be the biggest triumph ever of the Republican noise-machine. It's a standing insult to the intelligence of the troops.

It's about as specious and worthless as the tip for a horse I pinned on Battery Orders one day: "Perspective 1 pint to win"!

[seabeyond]

13. you have a flag in front of house, how can you be a dem. these people buy into

this stuff. what makes them so capable of believing lies and vote repug. thye dont think for selves.

[progressivebydesign]

19. People like that amaze me. If that's their logic, then why didn't they support Kerry???

Or Max Clelland? If the only test of a candidate is military service.

[southernyankeebelle]

21. What nut jobs

Well those crazy people aren't informed on military issues. My husband, my dad and my father-in-law served over 20 yrs in the military and retired. None of them were ever asked or told who to vote for. They are all democrats. None of them would have ever voted for a republican because the republicans are for the rich and democrats are for the middle and poor classes. It has always been that way. I always respected McCain but he never supported the troops.

[Robbins]

22. Your repley

You could say Mccain gets a D from Veteran groups while Obama gets a B.

[Roninvet]

23. Im a Vet.

2 tours in Iraq. Go Obama!

[old mark]

25. I posted a pro Obama message on a gun oriented political site

about a month ago, telling them that I am a 61 year old white male Vietnam era Army veteran, and why I would never vote for McCain.

I got a lot of disbelief, as if all vets should automatically vote for McCain because of his military service, or that all older white men should be Republicans, or that white peopls should not vote for Obama.

All these ideas are, of course, bullshit.

McCain is a lying son of a bitch, and would never get my vote undr any circumstances.

mark

[beac]

26. My father is a vet and proudly displays his "Veterans for Obama" on his car is a very red area.

I am SHOCKED that any Veterans support McNasty at all. I guess even veterans can be low-info voters.

[hatrack]

27. A suggested response: "I'm a vet. And I'll vote any damned way I please."

"You got a problem with that?" optional.

[knixphan]

28. I second that!

[JimWis]

29. I have gotten that question before too. How come I am not

supporting McCain. The Democrats have always treated Vets better, in my opinion.

[Hepburn]

30. Well, yeah, you have to cuz all blacks support Obama.

See how it works out?

:sarcasm:

[goddess40]

31. If you have a vagina how can you not support Palin

same lame argument.

[Overseas]

32. Thanks for taking the time to confront a popular American myth .

Far more Democrats have actually served in the military.

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

And Democrats have been far better in honoring veterans' service with better benefits.

Republican privatization of military services has greatly weakened our military. That's why I want a Democrat as Secretary of Defense. We know that doing things in-house actually increases accountability and gets us more value for our dollars. Instead, Republicans have given us very expensive no bid contracts that benefited CHeney's company Halliburton the most.

Vote Vets dot org is an easy site name to remember, if you find people wanting to study those issues.

[dkofos]

34. I'm a VET, and I DON'T SUPPORT mclame.

USAF 72-76

[AzDar]

35. Why should Vets support McCain when he clearly doesn't support them?

:shrug:

[jillan]

36. My husband gets the DAV magazine - and they love Obama.

Sounds like you ran into some uniformed people.

[minnesota_liberal]

37. I hope you replied that you never lost the capacity for thinking

I really don't understand how anyone could think that McCain's military service would automatically qualify him to serve as president while Obama's lack of same would disqualify him.

[SoCalDem]

39. response.. "You're a human, how could you vote FOR him?".. nt

[zulchzulu]

40. I've met dozens of vets who DESPISE McCain

They know he's no friend of veterans except cheap talk.