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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:24 AM
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Should polling be illegal? What do you think?
I think maybe it should be illegal. it can cause one side to be dispirited. it also takes alot of the fun out of an election and it can cause alot of stress.
another thing, in states like california where democrats know they will win big statewide will knowing that keep some democrats at home and causing some democratic house challengers to lose? I think we would be better off without polling.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:26 AM
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1. I want to know what's going on.
If people decide to stay home because they feel certain about the election outcome, that is unfortunate, but it's also their decision.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:27 AM
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2. You want to make gathering information illegal?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:28 AM
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3. Ugh, sometimes I cringe when I read this stuff knowing others will read it too
No, asking people what they think should not be made illegal.
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:31 AM
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6. I think voter turnout would be much higher
if they had no idea who was going to win in advance.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:41 AM
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16. People who don't vote based on their notion of who will win in advance deserve the representation
of W.

As limiting as they are, having polls in the mix is better than relying solely on the media talking heads or the stack of election flyers that appear in mailboxes.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:04 AM
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26. Perhaps. But maybe people who would decline to vote based on
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK deserve to sacrifice their voice by not having a vote recorded.

I vote because I want my voice heard, not because of the yapping of oddsmakers.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:29 AM
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4. Teh STUPID!! It BURNS!!!!
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:41 AM
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15. ROFL
:rofl: I can't breathe! LOL
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:29 AM
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5. Welcome to DU. /nt
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:32 AM
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7. Oh God.
:eyes:
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:34 AM
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8. Exit polling shouldn't be allowed.
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:36 AM
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11. thats a good point
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:41 AM
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14. I don't think we should actually count the votes, either.
Just tell us who won.

and yeah, this is :sarcasm:
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:46 AM
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18. use NC as an example
no one is sure there who will win, thus we are seeing incredibly high early turnout. i think that would occur everywhere if no one knew who was winning. plus, i think the more people who turn out, the better our chances are.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:48 AM
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20. High (Early Vote) Turn-out in NC...
is due to excitement about Barack Obama and the well-functioning GOTV effort of his campaign and volunteers.
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:52 AM
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23. its a great sign!!
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:43 AM
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17. Duh! Exit polling is critically important...
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 10:44 AM by avaistheone1
In an environment with no meaningful oversight and no paper trail, vote tampering can occur virtually undetected. As M.K. Dooner, founder of Florida-based Deep Sky Technologies and an expert on the technical aspects of electronic voting puts the point: "There are virtually no limits to the way votes can be distributed... Programmers can write code that is self-erasing and redistributes votes to conform to whatever outside interests are operative, and without any kind of traceability." <12> Dooner's reflections are reinforced by a Johns Hopkins University study in which researchers note: "Software flaws in a leading US electronic voting system could be used to subvert the outcome of an election." <13>
This is why the Berkeley study is so important and why exit polls matter. Without the data provided by these types of empirical studies, there is no way to evaluate the reliability and accuracy of voting machines.

In the weeks following the presidential election, pundits used the official results to challenge the accuracy of the exit poll outcomes, but in light of the historical accuracy of exit polls and the scientific legitimacy of the Berkeley study, one can with equal justification use the information to cast doubt on the accuracy of the machines.

The most reasonable conclusion to draw from the evidence is that the election results are skewed, and that there is a very real possibility that widespread election fraud took place during this year's presidential election. Such reflections bring us to the most nefarious aspect of the election picture, namely, the connection between electronic voting, corporate interest, and the Republican Party.

http://blog.democrats.com/node/1600/print
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:35 AM
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9. I'll tell you what I think: I think you should fucking educate yourself.
read the Constitution. You couldn't possibly outlaw polling.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:49 AM
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21. Damn it... And thank you.
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 10:52 AM by avaistheone1
The ignorance of our Constitution and the election fraud that occurred in our last two presidential elections is very troubling and appalling.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:35 AM
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10. No. It should be the law and it should be organized so as to provide validation....
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 10:46 AM by suston96
...of the actual election.

In other democracies, pre-election and exit polling have caused the voters to rebel and demand and actually get new elections when the pre-election and exit polling strongly suggested election tampering. The "Orange Revolution".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Revolution


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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:38 AM
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12. Do Your Parents Know You Are Playing On Their Computer?
You are really off the reservation sweetheart. I am trying to be nice here but you are a few crayons short of the full color box.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:39 AM
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13. Is this a joke?
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:46 AM
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19. Go away. n.t.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:52 AM
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22. How in the world would either campaign know ANYTHING without polling?
How would they know if ads were effective or not? How would they know if they should spend more or less time in one state or another?

Making polling illegal is idiotic.. and pretty unenforcable.

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JohnMcCant2008 Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:55 AM
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24. Illegal to ask voters a question? slippery slope - first amendment and all......
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:02 AM
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25. Free speech. First Amendment. Polling CANNOT be made "illegal".
And only fascists would want to try, IMHO, since they prefer everyone be kept ignorant.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:08 AM
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27. OMGWTF!?
:o x(
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:17 AM
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28. The OP Has Some Issues
Love your sig pix BTW! :hi:
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Foolacious Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:23 AM
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29. NO!
Polling is the only evidence we have in the case of election fraud. And the only protection, as well. Exit polling is especially valuable. You can bet that, if the general public didn't know that Obama had an 8-point lead, the Republican party would be all set to steal another election. With polling, such attempts become much more difficult.
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