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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:28 AM
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So they were saying that Gore and Kerry polled higher than they finished in PA on CNN
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 10:30 AM by MattP
Pa Poll 10-25 11-01 Real Clear Politics
SurveyUSA | 10/31-11/1 657 LV 3.9 48 49 - Kerry +1
Zogby | 10/29-11/1 601 LV 4.1 46 50 - Kerry +4
CNN/USAT/Gallup | 10/28-31 601 LV 4.1 50 46 - Bush +4
Quinnipiac | 10/27-31 909 LV 3.3 47 47 - TIE
Rasmussen | 10/25-31 600 LV 4.0 47 49 - Kerry +2
Mason-Dixon | 10/27-29 625 LV 4.0 46 48 - Kerry +2


And I found this gem from Center for Politics & Public Affairs "the October 31 Keystone Poll, with Bush at 43 and Gore at 42 percent, shows a remarkable Bush turnaround in the state, and either candidate now can win Pennsylvania's 23 electoral votes. The October 31 Keystone Poll, however, shows some remarkable demographic and attitudinal changes from the October 2 Keystone Poll."


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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:31 AM
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1. and Obama is up more than they were and across almost every poll
Barring cheating - which I think will happen, just hopefully not on a large enough scale - Obama will win.
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:33 AM
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2. The guy said some political professor said that Kerry and Gore polled higher than they finished
Thats why McShame has a chance in Pa they are pushing
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:48 AM
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3. It could also mean election fraud with all those electronic votes. n/t
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:24 PM
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9. but my point still stands
Even if Gore and Kerry lost some points in PA, Obama's lead over their lead more than covers that margin of error. I don't see it happening.
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nyccitizen Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:50 AM
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4. Actually, Kerry polled LOWER than he finished in PA:

Final RealClearPolitics spread for PA 2004: Kerry +.9

CNN/Gallup even had Bush up +4 in their final poll. Kerry won by just over 2 points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/pa_polls.html
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:25 PM
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10. good catch! nt
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SDJay Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:53 AM
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5. CNN's lame attempt to sell a tight race and
therefore higher ratings is really disgusting. I think the 'experts' at that network will be eating a lot of crow come Tuesday night. Just the latest example of for-profit 'journalism' negatively screwing with our democratic system. Shameful.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:57 AM
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6. I think you have uncovered a bright shining lie nt
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:15 AM
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7. PA
DOn't listen to the MSM BS.Obama Is In better shape than Gore and Kerry were.Obama may win by 8 Instead of 10-13 earlier polls had him winning by.Obama has better shots at Arizona,Montana,North
Dakota,South Dakota(a recent poll had Mccain only up by 5) Georgia,and Lousiana(a recent poll had
Mccain up by 3) than Mccain has In winning PA.

And who would you rather trust.The people who took on the Clinton machine and won(which despite what
Mccain claims was the true underdog story) picked Biden,and won all the debates or the people who
picket Pallin,who went from 3/4 points ahead to 5 to 11 points behind?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:18 AM
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8. 2004: polls were close, result was close / 2008: polls not close, result good enough for me
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:26 PM
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11. CNN??
I don't believe anything the MSM says anymore. they want the race to be tight.
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