Ichingcarpenter
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:31 AM
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The extremely long wait times for voting are essentially a Poll Tax of Voter Suppresion |
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A poll tax, in the sense of a discrimination tax which was a pre-condition of the exercise of the right to vote, emerged in some US states in the late 19th century. After the right to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws which often included a grandfather clause that allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax.
These laws achieved the desired effect of disfranchising African-American and Native American voters as well as poor whites who immigrated after the year specified.
The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, outlawed the use of this tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition in voting in Federal elections.
Now with the economy in taters and people holding two jobs or more, voting may be costing people to lose 1/5 of their weekly income because of the voting system in the United States. Even though states allow you to vote without repercussions from the employer and even others allow it with pay, the time alloted is totally inadequate as is the process.
Most poor people can ill afford to lose hours off of their weekly pay check. So this is just a hidden poll type tax hoping to disenfranchise voters.
I hope in the Obama administration and new Congress, that our Byzantine voting system will be reformed early in the first term.
I watched the pundits this week on TV never addressing this aspect of long lines and wait times. So this rant really is addressed to the media and their myopic viewpoints.
Rant off.
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:37 AM
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1. Artificially limiting supply. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:39 AM
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3. This is exactly right - -Voting should be as easy as buying crack or getting a gun. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:38 AM
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2. I have to ask where is the ACLU and a suit to force a more equitable distribution of machines and |
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personnel.
This is certainly a constitutional issue. 8 hrs in Atlanta?
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:45 AM
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Something needs to be done about this.
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:47 AM
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5. Very early! with federal uniformity. |
Ichingcarpenter
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:01 AM
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8. Apparently Nevada even with early voting and large turnout |
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doesn't have a problem. Somehow they have put voting places in malls, shopping areas colleges, schools and other places.
Those worried about the student vote must realize many have jobs and classes this week and couldn't cut classes or lose work in order to wait in line for hours. Many have weekend jobs.
I just wish the media would mention that the long lines are a type of suppression and disenfranchisement. Tuesday is gonna be interesting.
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:41 AM
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10. Early voting is intended to increase voter turnout |
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It is designed so that they can avoid the problems of long lines during the election day and increase participation. It does the complete opposite of voter suppression, and states don't have to do early voting.
The problem is that the election officials didn't expect to massive turnout for the early voting sessions, so they can't really be at fault. It is a problem that should be addressed in the future, but I disagree that it is voter suppression when its whole intention is to increase turnout.
If the long lines occurred during election day then it could be voter suppression, or in the future when election officials expect more people to show up for early voting. This year, the claim doesn't hold much water.
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:47 AM
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6. Early voting lines are different than on election day |
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Early voting isn't required and most places weren't planning on a massive early turnout. It should be a problem addressed next election cycle, but I wouldn't classify the long lines as voter suppression this year for early voting.
If it was on election day, it is a major problem because that is the day everyone is suppose to vote and election officials would have planned for a big turnout then. There is no excuse for long lines in that scenario.
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Sat Nov-01-08 10:57 AM
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7. I am in California and the early voting lines are very long here too. |
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The buzz is this should translate into an Obama victory.
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:01 AM
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9. It seems like we have conflicting requirements that make it |
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hard to be successful.
First, we want short lines, quick turnaround and flexible supply for voting.
Second, we want a pure paper, mechanical and human supervised and validated voting process.
Both are certainly desirable, but they are also competing. Which one gets the resources?
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:43 AM
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11. Bullshit. Other countries have no trouble satisfying all the desiderata. |
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:57 AM
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13. And you know this how? n/t |
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Sat Nov-01-08 11:49 AM
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12. Rachel was talking about that too. I hadn't thought of it that way. |
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But the long lines are definitely a poll tax of sorts. And you're right that no other media person has talked about it in that way that I have heard.
It is a pity that partisan Secretaries of State have sometimes used the distribution of voting machines to favor one side or the other. Republican dominated precincts sailing through voting while Democratic areas have long lines.
For Modern Republicans, the Ends Justify the Means. All's Fair in Politics for their party.
Even imposing a loss of hours of wages for the folks who have to stand in line for a whole day.
There is a lot to be done in election reform here in the USA. Funny how things got so messed up just after Republicans managed to steal election 2000.
www.stealingamericathemovie.org for a FREE DOWNLOAD of a comprehensive documentary of voting rights issues.
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