Palin's medical records a "no show" and time is up

[Ichingcarpenter]

With 3 days to the election, all of the candidates have released their medical records, except one - Sarah Palin.

After telling the press last Sunday that Palin's medical records would be released early in the week, the McCain campaign has yet to produce them. When asked about it by several news organizations, the campaign responds by saying they have "No comment". This leaves one to wonder what exactly was uncovered when the McCain campaign finally decided to look into her records - something that should have been completed when she was being considered for the VP slot.

The American people deserve to know whether or not Sarah Palin's health is in good standing. Palin told NBC's Brian Williams on October 22nd that we would see in the medical records that she was healthy, "if they're released." Why not let us see for ourselves?

If there's nothing to hide, being upfront and forthcoming with the American public should not be a problem for the McCain campaign, but apparently, it is.



I think we know that this relates to a mother and a child.


What makes Palin's refusal increasingly strange is that she told Charlie Gibson two weeks that she would release them; the campaign promised ABC News -- whose Kate Snow has tenaciously asked "every day week -- that it would release them early last week; and yet she still has not done so. It seems clear that she now has no intention of releasing them before the election.


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/01/steyn/

[Jennicut]

1. Two more days and one night left....guess Sarah had something to hide

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. They promised this week last Sunday .... this week is

OVER

[Orrex]

3. We'd probably find out about that time she had chronic headaches

So they x-rayed her skull and found nothing.

[Ozma]

12. I don't even think an x-ray technician is needed for that! We ..

all know how empty that head is.

[Orrex]

39. I wasn't sure, to be honest

I thought that the echo was feedback from the microphone on the dais.

[tblue37]

42. All they would have to do is peek into one ear and they could see Russia

out the other.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. The Christian Right would be mortified if they found out

are you thinking what I'm thinking?

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. 4 or 5?

I think the number is 4 for one and 1 for the other with one in the oven

[Tallison]

8. Yep...

It seems like eons since I last suspected she was actually Trig's grandma.

[iamthebandfanman]

53. yup, i was thinkin' it. glad i wasnt the only one.

[TheDonkey]

5. what a shock.

[maseman]

7. I think she decided a week ago they are going to lose

Why make waves with medical records if she is going to lose?

[pokercat999]

17. I'm sure she decided McSame was going to lose

because he wouldn't let Sarah be Sarah. I'm sure she thinks it's all his fault. And she may be right........his fault for picking her.....hahahhahahaha

[Janice325]

9. What are the chances that this info would eventually come out,

even after Palin/McCain-oops..I mean McCain/Palin lose?
If it's what I think it is, I feel sorry for the little kids involved, if you get my drift.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. It could be several things

A non-pregnancy, a prescription for birth control, an abortion, psychiatric treatment and drug prescriptions for it, a sexually transmitted disease, evidence of spousal abuse by Todd or another lover. Who knows? It's all speculation until she releases the records. At any rate, it must be something embarrassing and damaging. Otherwise, if she released her records, she could score political points by telling the American people that it's a sign she will govern with transparency. If she hasn't released them by now, it seems very likely that there's something there in those records she doesn't want anyone to see.

[NV Whino]

20. You forgot one...

tubal ligation. The ultimate birth control.

[sunnystarr]

36. omg that's just what I was thinking tooooo

I figured she had a tubal ligation after little Piper 'cause she had political ambitions.

[NV Whino]

45. My thoughts exactly

I'm not even sure little Trig is Bristol's.

Sarah and her good doctor are involved in an organization to help abused children and women. I leave the rest of the conjecture to your imagination.

[chomper]

79. Sarah Palin's Lies

the baby is NOT her.

http://www.palindeception.com/index.html

[smkyle1]

51. hadn't figured that one. but that makes sense n/t

[stray cat]

11. Taking medication for a psychiatric problem?

[Dennis Donovan]

15. That was my initial guess...

...but the "Mom or Grandma" thing is starting to seem more... plausible.:shrug:

[funflower]

65. She's not smart enough to have a psychiatric problem. n/t

[stray cat]

Is she the only candiate in recent history to not at least appear to release her records?

[Janice325]

13. McCaIn hasn't released his medical records, or did I miss it?

[Ozma]

14. Three hours for reporters to look over the 1200 pages without cameras....

That's what McCain considered a "release".

Transparency and Republicanism is like oil and water, they NEVER mix.

[Janice325]

22. Thanks.

Muchly appreciated!

[FourScore]

31. 1200 REDACTED pages.

It wasnt even the complete story...

[bklyngrl60]

16. I think she had a baby. I think she also likely has Post Partum Depression or some other Depression

Related diagnosis.

She lives a high stress life in Alaska with five kids - it's a recipe for a mood disorder.

[FourScore]

32. Post partoum depression would be such a classic woman's issue.

No one can attack her or use that against her.

Besides, women all over the US would relate. I mean, seriously, can you see some dumbass male reporter talking about PPD?

It must be something else.

[LisaL]

52. Well if you have you finger on the button, people might

be just a little concerned about your mental state, don't you think?

[MonteLukast]

80. Living with a fundie right-wing husband and culture...

... when you have even a smidgen of independence, can GIVE a woman a mood disorder.

Learning you have much more limited possibilities than you thought, always does that.

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. The thing is tomorrow is Sunday and all the Political talk show are on

You can bet this won't come up but Obama's half aunt will.

[Peacetrain]

19. She may have had an abortion previously...

That is my guess

[Quixote1818]

21. I bet you are exactly right on the money! nt

[Peacetrain]

24. I have been suspecting that for a while... What other reason would she

have not to immed. release her records. That is the big one that would stop them in the tracks.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

88. maybe when she was a teenager herself?

[Ozma]

25. Either that, or she spent time in mental hospital or drug treatment

facility. She's three cards short of a full deck, we all know that.

People who spend time in mental hospitals are fine people, but only if they are honest about it. You have a toothache, you go to the dentist, you have mental problems, you go to seek help. There's nothing wrong with it, but hiding it is NOT a good strategy.

[Peacetrain]

28. Drug treatment, probably would not effect her..

Look at Bush.. they right celebrates how they clean themselves up.. yadda yadda yadda.. but you never know.. she might have been.. :shrug:

[bklyngrl60]

23. Oh please. A previous abortion would never even make it into someone's medical record.

It's not like an insurance company would have paid for it.

I'd bet my last dollar she's on prozac or zoloft or something like that. She might even take it for PMS. Gagillion of women do.

[Peacetrain]

26. Of course it would be part of your medical record.

[FourScore]

33. No. It's not. n/t

[Peacetrain]

35. If you tell you Doctor, it is part of your medical record..

Whether you had it at a private organization or clinic or not. If complications develop and sometimes they do later , it is part of your record if you need treatment. Number of pregnancies live birth and not is an integral part of your health history. It impacts on your odd of developing hormone related cancers, including ovarian as an example.

EDIT.. I understand the right to privacy laws.. but again if you need to seek treatment, have complications etc, that is in your medical records.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

40. A lot of private physicians provide abortion services

Somehow, I don't see Palin showing up at a Planned Parenthood clinic and walking through the doors of such an establishment. If she ever did have one, I would expect her to do it through her private OBGYN in secrecy.

[funflower]

68. Maybe not the actual procedure (although maybe so), but all the

surrounding info (22-yo patient states she has missed two periods... pregnancy test positive...). It's also likely to be part of her health history.

[yardwork]

75. Every pregnant woman is asked for her pregnancy and childbirth history.

There is a standard set of questions asked by medical doctors of every pregnant women in their care -

Have you ever been pregnant before? How many times?
Have you ever given birth? How many times?
Have any of your pregnancies ended in miscarriage? How many? When?
Have you terminated any pregnancies? How many? When?

Palin says she five children. That's at least five pregnancies when she's been asked those questions. She's lived in the same small town her entire adult life.

[FourScore]

89. IF you tell your doctor.

Trust me...It is quite possible to have an abortion and keep it seperate from rest of your medical records -- IF you really want to.

[whopis01]

92. Not if you don't want it to be, it isn't. n/t

[Ozma]

27. She seems more bi-polar to me, than simply depressed. And she's been in

a manic phase for the whole campaign. Manic phases are often noted by flights of fantasy, flight of ideas, lack of cogent logical thinking, mistaking reality for inner fantasies.

[madaboutharry]

44. What makes you think an abortion would not be

part of a medical record? And in some circumstances an insurance company would absolutely pay for it. An abortion is a medical procedure and would most certainly be part of a medical record. Prior abortions are always part of an ob/gyn record. It is important information relating to future pregnancies. They only way it would not be in a medical record is if someone lied about it.

[whopis01]

93. If you did not want to be part of your record, it is easy to keep out. n/t

[rainbow4321]

58. Uh, yeah they do...

Also number of pregnancies and live births.

It goes like this in medical/hospital records:
Gravida 5 Para 5 Abortion 0
That would indicate 5 pregnancies, 5 living children,no abortions

If Trig is NOT Sarah Palin's and she has had only 4 kids--- G4P4 will be on her records. Any number besides ZERO after the "A" would mean she's had an abortion.

On edit:

FORGET the medical records..if we DON'T see Bristol anymore, it may mean she is not currently pregnant...cuz her belly would be pretty damn big given that her supposed due date per Levi is Dec 18th. There is a chance that the belly on her that we saw previously was post-partum "baby fat".
Palin knows that. Hence, no more public appearances by Bristol, only all the other kids.

[TooRaLoo]

69. Insurance paid for mine, because doctors advised it.

Long, painful story. Wouldn't be unheard of at her age.

[smkyle1]

50. I think that's a pretty good guess . . .

either she's had an abortion, didn't give birth to Trig, or was treated for depression

Maybe it's all 3

[funflower]

66. BINGO. A lot of vehement pro-lifers have had abortions, imo. n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

96. If she had an abortion prior to giving birth, her records would

indicate a nulliparous cervix with zero gravida. Meaning, that her cervix would show that she had been pregnant, but no live birth.

I think she had a either a tubal ligation or a TAH after Piper, therefore elminiating the chance that Trig is hers.

[japple]

29. My first guess was that she'd had breast enlargment or

other cosmetic surgery.

[susu369]

74. Agree - BIG bucks spent on

cosmetic surgery would not be flattering.

On second thought, a lot of republician women I know would find that "perfectly normal."

[FourScore]

30. Babygate. n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. Sarkozy Syndrome- I think the tape today proved that

It a disease that comes from France.

[Karenina]

83. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! SACRE BLEU!!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Orsino]

37. McCain didn't "release" his records.

He did, however, have a visitation day, during which journalists were able to skim them--or to skim what the campaign said were his records. There was no fact-checking done, as reporters didn't get their own copies. It's not like Greenwald to have forgotten this point.

Both Republicans are still hiding their records.

[progressivebydesign]

38. People won't like me saying this....

.. but I frankly believe that she had her tubes tied.. or something to that effect.

[chalky]

62. Maybe. But was it done before or after Trig's birthdate?

n/t

[DCBob]

41. What are they hiding?

You have to wonder.

[Pithy]

43. My guess is plastic surgery

her before/after pics show a LOT of work has been done. The Grandma thing would also be a suspect biggie.

[madaboutharry]

46. I was talking to an obstetrical nurse today at the

Obama campaign office (I know that sounds odd!) and she said she has never seen a mother go back to work 3 days after giving birth to a special needs baby.

When you think about it, the story of the baby's birth still sounds very strange.

[Nevernose]

47. My guess is clinical depression

Which is hardly uncommon for either Alaskans or mothers of five. Jesus, with five kids how could you NOT be depressed?

It seems to be the most likely explanation -- not that the other explanations aren't very real possibilities, but they're not as likely (I'm still holding out for "secret pregnancy" though :) ).

Mental health issues have such a stigma in this country. It's bullshit. If she was at one point depressed, so what? That should be the last thing on our extremely long list of reasons of she shouldn't be president.

[eridani]

60. And then there's that 6 months of not many photons hitting your pineal gland

Seasonal depression is a very real thing.

[unblock]

48. hmm. repressed christian pageant contestant has something medical to hide? hmmmmmmmmm.

could be plastic surgery or an abortion, but i'm going with sexually transmitted disease.

[funflower]

72. Excellent possibility. Old-fashioned case of Herpes. n/t

[LisaL]

49. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

I sure would love to find out why she won't release them.

[malik flavors]

54. This something that will always haunt her. If Trig isn't hers she's finished in politics.

[Lionhearted]

55. Isn't this just a distraction?

Sure, it would finish her politically if it came out that she'd had an abortion or one of her children wasn't hers or she'd been treated for depression or caught an std from the one affair she's acknowledged -- she'd be finished not because these things happened to her, but because of the right-wing nuts who support her would desert her.

But the far more critical point is that she isn't remotely qualified for the presidency at a time when we need a real president to step forward.

Why, she's as unqualified to be president as, as, as Dubya!

[Ichingcarpenter]

56. Your word, your spokesman

your choice.

[chalky]

63. She's also not qualified for 2012, either.

If the medical records reveal a big lie that could nip a 2012 run in the bud, so much the better.

[KitSileya]

64. Exactly. If she expects to run in 2012, she'll have to show them.

Even if only like McCain did his, 3 hrs, no filming, no page numbers, ni taking notes etc. And after 4 years of an Obama administration, we should hope the media will have discovered how to be properly fair and balanced enough to zero in on her skeleton(s) in the closet. My guess? Trig is Bristol's, not Sarah's. And to a certain extent I can understand the subterfuge there. Not that I condone it, but I can understand where it's coming from, a sort of Victorian mentality of hiding scandal. As long as Trig is given loving care by a stable, loving, capable caregiver, it wouldn't matter who his real mother is. But after seeing his treatment, I doubt he's getting that, and it's obvious that the family is pretty dysfunctional. And there's probably som big clues as to how dysfunctional that family is in Sarah Palin's medical records. She just hasn't had enough time to expunge the dangerous bits yet. But in the next 4 years...... Plenty of time to lean on a couple of doctors.

[yardwork]

76. The right-wing nuts who support her would not desert her. They wouldn't care.

They didn't care that Palin's daughter is a teenage unwed mom.

I'm sure that Palin's medical records include things that would be embarrassing to her and reveal that she's told more lies, but her base wouldn't care.

[Lionhearted]

81. Exactly -- they didn't desert Bush despite all his skeletons

The recent "W" movie just touched on Dubya's many problems and the right wing even now wants to defend him.

[Virginia Dare]

82. They'd find a way to blame the "liberal media"...

afterall it's all their fault that she sounds like a dumbass.

[leftofthedial]

57. could they really reveal those college and 20-something-year-old abortions

after all this time?

[Ichingcarpenter]

59. A simple examination can detect how many births one had

I don't know about abortions. After the tape from Canada she is done now.
I hope you got to see that.




How are you? You hanging tough or still processing?
Just wanted to show my support again my friend.

[funflower]

70. A test for the NUMBER of births? What test is that? n/t

[leftofthedial]

73. thank you so much.

I'm doing pretty good.

We're having an immediate-family memorial dinner here at my house today, which should be another step toward healing.

:hi:

[Midlodemocrat]

97. Actually that's incorrect. You cannot determine how many times

a woman has given birth if she has had more than two children.

However, IF she had an abortion PRIOR to having Track, it would be in her records that she was a P1 G0, which would make her fundies' heads explode.

She would, however, say that she had miscarried.

I think she had a tubal ligation after Piper, thereby nullifying the chance that Trig is hers.

[eridani]

61. That Trig story is just too way out for me. I suspect

--cosmetic enhancements on the public dime, or maybe an abortion.

[funflower]

71. I agree. She covers for her daughter's pregnancy and the girl is pregnant a few months later?

Plus, Down's Syndrome is more common when the mom is older.

[yardwork]

77. Has anyone seen Bristol lately? Do we know for sure that she's pregnant now?

The last time I saw photos of Bristol, she looked like she could be pregnant OR she could be a nursing mom still carrying weight from the pregnancy. Since them, she's been sent back to Alaska and I haven't seen one photo of her.

Also, how do we know for sure that Trig has Down Syndrome? All we have is Sarah Palin's say-so, and the woman lies every time she opens her mouth.

[Hokie]

84. Bingo, nursing mom

My wife picked up on that at the convention. She noticed how her um, you know, the nursing things, were enlarged. There have been no photos since. The entire Palin family and medical history thing smells like 4 day old cat food.

[yardwork]

94. She definitely looked like a nursing mom to me, too. But some pregnant women look like that.

Impossible to tell just by looking at the few video clips. The question is - where is Bristol now? Is she still pregnant?

[TooRaLoo]

67. "I think we know that this relates to a mother and a child."

YUP! My thought exactly.

[LibDemAlways]

78. Pretty obvious they are just waiting out the clock. After Tuesday it

becomes a non-issue anyway.

My bet, however, is that she did not give birth this year and she hasn't been able to convince her doctors to falsify her records to indicate that she did.

[paparush]

85. She's a N _ E _ O _ C _ O _ N!! They dont' release records. They don't testify. They don't respond

to subpoenas.

To her, rules are for wimps who follow rules.

She and her ilk consider themselves above the law; above reproach because she answers to a higher power.

I hope she slinks back under the rock where McCain found her.

She is an insult to humanity.

[file83]

86. You're right - what she is doing is par for the course. Cheney approves, that speaks volumes.

[paparush]

87. EXACTLY!

[samplegirl]

95. They EXPONGE!!!

[Northofyou]

90. ***** I know Why!!! I know Why!!! I know why!!!!!! ******

Her medical records show that she is brain dead!!!!

[gatorboy]

91. I'd guess they show an abortion from her younger years.

Just a guess. But it's something that would really explode the heads of her more extreme followers.