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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:36 AM
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Define Humiliate: McCain on SNL
Oh Dear God. This could not have been good for this guys campaign. If any of those freepers sincerely believe this was good, then I'll truly believe they're all delusional.

I have never seen a man so thoroughly humiliated on national television and he brought his wife down with him. Cindy looked even more pathetic. I was shocked to see her there and sharing in this truly sad moment.

I almost felt really bad for him. It was knock after knock after knock and him basically admitting to EVERYTHING that has been said about his campaign. Not to mention he's mocking things that he used to negatively impact his opponent. I just couldn't rap my head around this SNL. It wasn't that funny at all.

I know a lot of people were saying this SNL was bad but I withheld reservation because I actually really enjoyed when Palin was on. It wasn't Palin herself, it was the story around Palin, like the whole rap, the mutherfin' moose thing, and the whole double Palin thing. Not to mention Palin didn't annoy me at all. I will say though when people said this SNL was bad they were not lieing.

I am truly horrified. I'm not only horrified by McCain but just the fact that he's basically finished his campaign. If you, as a Republican, didn't like McCain before there was no way you were voting for him now. I admit that McCain was far more relaxed than Palin was on the show and I won't even deny the fact that I think McCain has a great personality I saw him at the grill and in other times making funny jokes. "Bomb, bomb, Iran" not counted. So it's not like he's completely dry and thought he was extremely comfortable on screen.

I just think the content he agreed with and he and his campaign allowed him to do was like a self destruct button. I'm not out here trying to seem like an advocate for McCain. But there has always been something bugging me about the McCain campaign, they were NEVER serious.

I always felt as though Obama went against a joke. It was NEVER something formidable and the amount of times they basically harmed themselves I felt this was the final self-destruct. They have been mocking the election process and this to me showed me how much they thought about it. They were never serious and it's a shame he did this. Obama as a candidate with an incredible resume and sound deserved a better opponent. After this it showed to me there was NEVER any honor in John McCain's run.

He is truly a sad Grandpa. There was just nothing left. A man running for President turned himself into a sack of crap on national television. I hope he doesn't become our President because that SNL skit will be held above our heads world wide and that would be too much. Ugh, I'm thoroughly disgusted.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:42 AM
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1. Weird Skits
The whole thing smelled like he knows he's going to lose. Like, "What the hell, I'm going to lose, it's time to relax and go with it." McCain was always good on SNL before. Good timing, self-deprecating humor. All that's gone.

And the part where Cindy "showed" the jewelry -- creepy.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:44 AM
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2. Can't wait for the video. Bet it's already up.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:45 AM
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3. ask and ye shall
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:53 AM
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7. Thank you! Gonna watch it now.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:30 AM
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42. That was the funniest concession speech EVAR.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 08:43 AM by Orsino
McCain looks weak and tired, but somehow okay with it.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:46 AM
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5. Exactly, it was just super weird.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 02:48 AM by vaberella
The vibe was all off and let's not even start with the booing.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 04:37 AM
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28. was there booing? What part was it at?
I don't always hear some sounds, so I am seriously asking this.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:18 AM
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30. There was booing at the beginning of Weekend Update.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:28 AM
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32. Yes, I caught the booing among the cheers there.
you could see him react to it even if he tried not to. I didn't hear it when the show was on but then I had a tendency to mute the tv when he talked too. ;)
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vicecrew Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:13 AM
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10. snl
I thought it was sad
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:46 AM
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4. "I almost felt really bad for him." Just think of the Iraq Invasion dead, and the feeling will pass.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:47 AM
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6. Yeah...and the Palin rallies were enough to keep me in line. n/t
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:55 AM
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8. I think I'll skip it-- my cringe factor has been working overtime
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:08 AM
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9. i totally disagree, i thought McCain did great
he came off really well. he was able to poke fun at himself. but even more so was the knocks that were clearly aimed at Palin such as Palin in 2012.

Cindy had a small part but she seemed ok.

i thought Palin's appearance sucked partly because she did not take part in it herself. but McCain's was very good.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:23 AM
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15. He performed well but the role minimalized him -- it wasn't the least bit Presidential
He seemed like the head of the accounting department who was at his retirement party.


It was devistatingly bad for the closing image of a Presidential campaign.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:39 AM
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18. I never said he wasn't comfortable on screen. I commended his performance on screen.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 03:39 AM by vaberella
I just didn't like the story and what they used to poke fun at wasn't funny. It was sad. He built a lot of him self on several talking points. "Maverick", "Ayers"...Yet the Maverick has become ridiculous that it's the butt of every joke and then you have Ayers which was used to hurt Obama---and in some cases did and caused the most negative rallies in which some turned violent; turn into just something in passing.

I didn't appreciate it. It wasn't funny. Plus, just his interaction on those things seemed to me as though he mocked his own campaign and turned the campaign itself into a joke. The problem for me is that campaigning is a serious affair in serious times. Dumbing this down and erasing the magnitude of the Presidency has been irking me since he chose Palin to be his Veep. This run solidified my anger.
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:21 AM
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40. does anyone know yet about the freeper reaction?
I would like to hear their response. They may be outraged that he, for example, participated in a joke about Palin's expensive wardrobe. If anyone goes into the muck over there, let us know what they are saying. I love watching them squirm!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 10:57 AM
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44. Most of us are curious but we won't bother. Those people are truly terrifying and sick. n/t
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:11 AM
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38. I thought it was fine. Mildly amusing even

He came across as human which is a big plus for him. Usually he just seems incredibly nasty.

I don't think it will register any effect on the campaign.

Mainly, I think it induces sympathy. Not Presidential.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:16 AM
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11. It was hard to laugh because of what McCain represents.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 03:19 AM by political_Dem
I can't in good conscience laugh with a man who stood by (along with his running mate) and watched as the crowd (he is proud of) shouted racist names and threatened to kill his opponent. It was equally more disgusting to watch the footage of the people who attended his rallies after the stump speech was over.

It was like, for sake of a better analogy, laughing with Stalin.

If Stalin was a funny guy and came off well in front of an audience, would you laugh with him?


Knowing Stalin's track record, not many people would.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:42 AM
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19. Exactly. This was why I couldn't laugh at the "Ayers" thing..
It was the main instigator of Republican hate rallies. It was what got them started and increased the Obama hate. If they didn't hate him for his skin colour or already did, this was just one more, on top of the fact he's a Democrat. It's too much. It was like he was also marginalizing the significance of what he's done. I couldn't be welcoming of this.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:51 AM
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23. I agree.
It made my blood boil when McCain said during that one debate that he was "proud of his audience". Pardon my language, but he's an asshole. He's been one his entire life.

Even the opening skit (in which Sarah Palin is effectively thrown under the bus)is the work of a ruthless asshole, when you pick it apart.

He has no feelings. He's doing this for self-preservation and nothing more.

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:10 AM
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45. I feel the same way. I'm sure there are some klan guys who could be amusing too. n/t
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:17 AM
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12. I thought they did a pretty good job.
It was funny.

The WTF part is that he was there lampooning his idiot VP pick. At this point, though, I agree he can't do much to help himself.
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:21 AM
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14. history was made on SNL tonight,it looked like a concession to me.
:shrug:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:43 AM
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20. That's another thing it appeared like to me. I figured it was over.
This was why I said if Republicans hated him before he was the nominee, they weren't going to vote for him after this.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:19 AM
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13. It was weird. Doesn't really do anything for him other than stroke his ego.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:29 AM
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16. Funny, but bizarre.
It doesn't seem "presidential," it's true. And that's OK actually. But he's not gonna gain from this, especially with the whole thing of self-dimunition and Palin-mockery.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:44 AM
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21. No doubt. n/t
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:29 AM
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17. I agree. The Republics knew they couldn't win this year.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 03:31 AM by Laelth
In fact, I argued that Obama effectively won the race in February, as I said here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4473170

McCain reminds me of Bob Dole. Republics like to let elder statesmen who "deserve their shot" run when they have no hope of winning.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--fixed link.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:47 AM
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22. Completely different from this SNL apperance:
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:53 AM
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24. That creeped me out. I'm sorry. It makes him even more repugnant.
I don't even know how Amy Poehler could stand him.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:21 AM
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35. VERY CREEPY!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:57 AM
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25. I liked it. He conceded. He's trying to unify. He knows it's over.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 04:30 AM
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26. i liked it too. it was like the McCain of 2000 was back
...tainted by our knowledge of what the McCain of 2008 is like, but still, he was appealing. I thought he looked like a good sport.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:20 AM
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34. I agree,it was funny.That was the old McCain on SNL
last night. It won't help him in this election,but it did no damage to him.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:33 AM
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36. I thought he looked happier than I've seen him in a long time.
In two days the man gets his soul back. Looks like he can't wait and he had the added bonus of smacking down that ignorant twit that was foisted on him by the wingnuts.

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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:42 AM
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46. Yes, I got that too.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 04:34 AM
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27. I didn't see it that way.
I thought he got all his sound bites in and tried to get as many digs as possible in on Obama. I found nothing humorous in his performance at all. He turns my stomach and I don't ever want to have to look at him again. He went down a path that he didn't have to go down, and I didn't see anything different about him tonight. :shrug:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:47 AM
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33. He'll have more friends on our side of the aisle in a year
The Republicans will vilify him like there's no tomorrow while they veer off into total fundyville.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:05 AM
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29. Well, to tell the truth
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 05:06 AM by DearAbby
I thought *'s campaign was a fecking joke in 04, the campaign rallies for loyal oath signing people, or only military bases. The debates were terrible for *, In my opinion. I thought he would totally blow the campaign...I couldn't believe why he wasn't dropping in the polls.

It appeared to me like the GOP would accept a turnip wrapped in President celephane...and they would still vote for it. Or they didn't care, the fix was in.

Yeah, you're right, many times I thought McCain has to be losing this one on purpose, the selection of moosolini being one of them. The suspension of his campaign being another. Yet he still polls in the lower mid forties. :wow:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:21 AM
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31. I love the smell of Republican desperation in the evening.
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cjsmom44 Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:35 AM
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37. My Thoughts Exactly
My thoughts went along the same lines...I thought "my God, how could this be even the slightest bit helpful to McCain/Palin???? It was humiliating....more proof of freeper clueless-ness
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:16 AM
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39. I saw two desperate old fools, clinging to their last moment in the spotlight.
John and Cindy McCain are circling the toilet, and by next Wednesday, they'll be a punchline and nothing more.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:24 AM
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41. McCain/Fey looked more natural than McCain/Palin
I thought the skit was great, at least for being self-deprecating. However, Tina Fey, as opposed to Palin, actually reacted to and worked with McCain, trying to fit him into the scene rather than shine on her own. It seemed like a different dynamic than what we have seen on the campaign trail.
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TNMOM Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 09:28 AM
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43. I had the same feeling... a definite let-down. He's thrown in the towel
and it's pathetic. It doesn't make me like him more at all. It's just self-destructive - but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving political party.
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