McCain on SNL: He filleted Palin

[tekisui]

The jokes were all on Palin. Other than the McCain Fien Gold and the Pork knives, which were harmless, he stood by and helped tear down his VP pick.

It just shows how divided they are. Already blaming each other, on national tv.

[LostinVA]

1. I think Palin was chosen for him, and he doesn't like many of her "values"

Let's be honest here: McCain isn't a good guy, but he isn't a bad guy, either. Over teh years, he has generally been one of the more level-headed Republicans, and he hasn't been overly big on sexist, racist, homophobic posturing, either. He is NOT a Crazed Fundie. I disagree with him on many, many things and would never vote for him -- but, he is NOT evil. I think Palin is. I also think she is stupid, and McCain isn't.

McCain knows he won't eb around much longer, and he doesn't want Palin to be his legacy. And, to be hoenest, he doesn't deserve for her to be his legacy.

He was soooo funny on SNL last night! I could almost want to ahve a beer with THAT guy. Extra points for having Cindy in the skit!

[tekisui]

3. He knows it is about his legacy now.

He asked for it though. he was bullied into taking Palin.

[LostinVA]

4. I know -- he could have refused

[karynnj]

6. In fairness, that might be easier said than done

There seems to have been many people arguing that she could excite the base and they could repeat the turn out of the base Bush had. They likely persuaded him that his appeal to independents would add to her excitement of the base giving him a good chance. But, he may end up with closer to the intersection of the groups each appealed to in the past - rather than the union of the two groups.

I don't think McCain had many good choices due to the fact that the RW fundies didn't like him. This ruled out more attractive moderate Republicans - like Snowe. Romney is not trusted by the fundies. Guilliani had more baggage than anyone ever. Huckabee was a male Palin. Look at the others mentioned - the Governors of MN and FL.

[LostinVA]

7. I was surprised Kay Bailey Hutchinson wasn's asked -- she would have fit their bill

If Snowe had been on the ticket??? I shudder to think of the polls.

[karynnj]

13. There was a story that McCain wanted KBH

and then for some reason that didn't work out. There was some weirdness where McCain seemed to suggest his announcement was imminent then it didn't happen. Palin seemed a last minute choice - given the complete lack of any real vetting.

I suspect that McCain/Snowe would have palyed much better than McCain/Palin. First of all she is experienced and very competent. She also seems very pleasant. (I've watched many Small Business Committee hearings - whether she or Kerry were chair there was complete respect and a surprising degree of agreement between them - on small business issues.) The base would not be happy - but they would likely come out because of the alternative.

This is likely NOT what his advisors and people in the party were saying. Where he might have had a problem was in getting enough volunteers - as they tend to be more partisan.

[soothsayer]

8. i agree he came across as very likeable and beer drinkable.

[GoneOffShore]

14. I have to disagree with your assessment of McCain as a "good guy"

Everything he has done over the course of his life, from his time in the Navy to his time in the Senate, has been all about John McCain.

And I know you'll bring up his "service". Well, if it hadn't been for his dad, he would have been lucky to have been a mess steward on a support ship instead of a pilot who crashed two during training and lost one in combat because he didn't "jink" and follow protocol and hence got shot down. If he hadn't been angling for a medal he probably never would have ended up in a NV prison camp.

I can't wait to see the back of John McCain. And as far as his "legacy" goes - He definitely deserves every bit of merde that lands on him from his choice of Palin. He bought it, he broke it, it's his.

[LostinVA]

19. "And I know you'll bring up his "service".

WTF?:" NO reason to be snarky, and I beleive I said he was NOT a good guy -- try reading my whole post next time.

[GoneOffShore]

20. I am ultimately disagreeing with your statement that he "isn't a bad guy either."

He is.

An evil, self indulgent, shit.

[Raschel]

15. He's stirred up and encouraged hatred in this country. That's a bad guy.

[Johonny]

16. I agree

I use to think he was an ok guy. But then he called me a terrorist, unAmerican and an appeaser. So F him. Good guys don't do that. Obama has always shown respect for him he shows no respect for Democrats and their ideas.

[Dennis Donovan]

2. The "aside" by Fey in regards to "going rogue" was DEFINITELY anti-Palin...

"Palin in 2012" ADMITS the McCain candidacy is crashing and burning.:D

[Bad Thoughts]

5. Gonna say it again: McCain/Fey was more natural than McCain/Palin

I found that McCain acted more naturally around Tina Fey than his own running mate.

[Shipwack]

9. Fey seemed off her game, though...

I don't think she looked comfortable doing the opening, for some reason... Though she did seem to get into the groove with the "secret aside".

You're right, though... McCain did seem more relaxed than I've seen him in a while, either with or without Palin.

[Larry in KC]

11. Well, she DID appear directly with him, which she wouldn't with Palin...

...but maybe she dislikes the idea of "helping" that ticket, even to the extent of showing them to be able to act human and self-deprecating, that she was just too uncomfortable standing next to him.

[Larry in KC]

10. WHY can McCain do this one thing well?!

With his unnaturalness and tension not only in real interviews and in debates, but also on the stump at his own rallies, you'd think he'd really suck at comedy.

He's been funny on SNL in the past. I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd lost that ability, but again he was funny, rather likeable, and seemed relaxed.

Maybe one of the things it shows is that he's ready for this to be behind him, so he can really say what he thinks again, at last.

[bluedawg12]

12. Agree. This was mclame without talking points

and angry at Sarah maybe for putting her personal interests in front of the ticket's?

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. McCain is not comfortable around the people at his rallies

and it shows. He seems them, and their anger and fear and hate, and it disturbs him. I don't think he's used to seeing that. And I think deep down he's just happy to have his name in the history books as a candidate for president.

[lordcommander]

18. i agree there those hate-filled rallies were not of his own doing

it was his desperate campaign advisors own doing.

[myrna minx]

21. I agree. You can tell he doesn't care for her much. n/t