Will McCain concede Tuesday night even it is 364 to 174 Evs for Obama?

[maseman]

I say no way. The RW will take everybody to court for a month over Acorn and other BS. I bet he never concedes.

[Occam Bandage]

1. I doubt it. I expect we'll see legal challenges all over the place.

[Overseas]

36. That's what I'm afraid of. They know there are no paper trails.

They set the electronic voting system up, with its proprietary software and lack of auditable paper trails.

I don't think they can push more ACORN cases. They tried and had to fire the DOJ attorneys who refused to take on cases with so little evidence. So they did the PR storm to generate doubt. But who knows, perhaps by now they have enough compliant new attorneys from Liberty University on board.

But they know there are no paper trails on the electronic voting. So far only vote flips from Obama to McCain have been observed. If we start hearing about flipping from McCain to Obama then that may be a clue that they want to use that angle. Let's be sure to get them to film any machines that flip R to D, and quarantine some of those.

That's why I am more nervous this time. More election fraud news has been broadcast this time and more people are aware of it. I had hoped that would curb Republicans from using their full toolkit of voter suppression and election manipulation. But it could just mean that Republican corporate media is covering the news because Republicans plan to use that angle to steal the next election too.

Using election fraud claims as a cover to steal another election sounds totally crazy. But then look what they achieved in election 2000. With their "spontaneous citizens' riot" in Florida (made up of Republican staffers from Washington) to stop the recount. And friends on the Supreme Court who want to bring more conservatives onto the court.

My only hope is that Republican powers that be will call off half their dirty tricks to let us have an Obama administration because they need Democrats to clean up the economy and push the country into alternative energy development quickly to stave off climate emergencies.

[kickysnana]

2. Not according to our Sr Residence rabid fundie-repub activist

She says they well file law suits against vote totals everywhere and tie up the vote until the Supreme Court again pick a winner.

[beac]

6. Apparently Rick Davis just said the same thing.

They plan to sue if McCain loses, period.

[LiberalFighter]

22. Will the Supreme Court want to risk a revolt against them?

[gravity]

3. McCain would concede

The fundie base won't let it go though

[cali]

4. of course he will. that's just a ridiculous prediction

McCain is touchy about being a laughing stock. And refusing to concede under your scenario would completely ruin his reputation. You couldn't be much wronger.

[maseman]

13. I also thought he'd look Obama in the eye during the debates

Remember how we were all amzed about how he never once addressed Obama especially in the first debate?

[cali]

14. dates and olives. and I wasn't at all shocked by his not looking Obama in

the eye in the first debate. He did so in subsequent ones.

[Ikonoklast]

31. What reputation?

Little to late to salvage anything of value from that wreckage of a political career.

He'd do it just to be the dick that he really is.

[krawhitham]

5. he conceded last night on SNL

[Merlot]

18. Agreed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

Was mcbush trying to make nicey with the media (his base) so that he could come out of htis with a shred of dignity?

[Sebastian Doyle]

25. Exactly. McCain just wants to be done with this.

If he hadn't said such vile shit, and allowed such vile shit to be said by Moosealini and his surrogates over the last few months, I might actually feel sorry for the pathetic old bastard.

But that SNL performance last night was basically what little was left of the "old" John McCain saying "Look my friends, I know this is a lost cause. Let's have some laughs about it". This was his first concession speech, regardless of what he says Tuesday night.

[anigbrowl]

40. Agreed. He wants to be liked afterwards.

[cyndensco]

7. Yes. I think mccain will concede given your scenario.

[onehandle]

8. Yes. Before midnight. nt

[jazzjunkysue]

9. Nope. He's done. He'll fold. He's got no fight in him. His people don't turn out.

This was his story all along: no support from anywhere.

Palin will be blamed, as will the hard evangelical right.

I think they'll circle the wagons with the remaining GOP house and senate and re-write their charter, and it will all be economically based.

[yardwork]

10. McCain will concede Wednesday morning - he won't do it Tuesday night.

[Barack_America]

11. No. There's always the possibility of a Bradley Effect among the Electoral College.

;)

[rucky]

12. That'll be fine. It would be good to get some more court judgements on the books.

So they don't keep pulling the same shit year-after-year.

[Andy823]

15. I think he will

All you have to do is look at the mess the next president will fall into, the wars, the economy, the debt, etc., and all the little things Bush has been doing in the background to make it even harder for the next president, and it all seems to point to the fact the republicans don't really want McCain to win! Bush has set the stage for what they hope will be the chance to pin the blame for everything that has gone wrong on Obama and the democrats come 2012. I think they knew going into this race they didn't stand a chance, and that's why McCain got the nomination. He may put up a fight when he loses, but it won't last long.

[Warren Stupidity]

16. That appears to be the direction they are heading.

They have their hand picked DAs in place, their friendly judges appointed over the last 30 years, and they have the supreme court.

On the other hand gramps might still have a bit of spine left in him and could just stand up and do the right thing, defying the dead enders on the right who want to push the culture war to its logical conclusion.

51-49 they challenge the results, even with a blowout. If it is close, the odds are 90-10.

[CitizenPatriot]

17. if he fights it in the courts, he can't blame Palin

so he's going to have to make a choice. Either he lost because of Palin, in which case the GOP could still fool themselves into believing that they are a relevant party if they clean up their act OR he lost because of "vote fraud" (ha ha, I feel an attack of the palins) in which case the GOP is committing to the fundies for life and will not be a viable party after this year.

I hope they aren't a viable party regardless, but my point is, it will be a hard sell if they don't blame the Palin pick and her going rouge.

[jacksonian]

19. my bet is he will concede

and i expect a very nice, put our nation back together again speech. Country first, remember?

[deadmessengers]

20. Yes, of course he will

John McCain will concede if it's obvious the results are running significantly against him. If it's close (Obama w/286 EV, with a large state, say PA, within 2%), he won't. I don't think it'll come to that, though. My guess is that the networks will be calling the election for Obama by 10 on the East.

[Smuckies]

21. Yes. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

23. No! He will remind everyone that he is a POW.

[azmouse]

24. Yes, McCain will concede.

Obama's victory will be too overwhelming for him to do anything else.

[grantcart]

26. McCain will concede early -- he wants to start rehabilitating his reputation

[Top Cat]

27. He will go to hisgrave before he concedes to the young senator from Illinois

[onenote]

30. ten buck donation bet to DU says you're wrong

You in?

[onenote]

28. under the scenario you depict, of course he will concede.

[DeepBlueDem]

29. McCain will concede, but Palin will not!

Bookthread this post!

McCain will concede, but Palin will criticize McCain for conceding rather than challenging the election.

[JFN1]

32. I agree

Her shrill voice will cry out for a new election, even as McCain slinks off to the dustbin of history (you know, where he keeps his bones).

[Liberal_in_LA]

33. I say yes.

[Darian]

34. McCain will concede.

He'll lose in a margin to large to challenge, but I think he's tired of ruining his image even more so than he already has. He seemed like he just wanted it to be over on SNL last night. Palin could be a different story.

[OmahaBlueDog]

35. I agree

The outcome, which disagrees with so many of their internal polls, will be troubling. McSame will congratulate Senator Obama on a tough campaign, but will not concede pending a request to the DOJ to investigate.

In the meantime, perhaps Senator Obama would like to participate in some town hall meetings?

[Orsino]

37. Before midnight.

He's going through the motions now, and will just want to go home if things turn out that badly for him.

[WinkyDink]

38. McCain will; his Party won't.

[enigmatic]

39. yes. n/t

[Lumpsum]

41. I bet the birth certificate loons will be in full force once Obama wins.