My email to Joe Scarborough and his bosses

[EffieBlack]

Joe - so you think there's something wrong with Obama saying that his success in Iowa vindicated his confidence in America because YOU would not have said such a thing about YOUR political success?

Let me break this down for you: You are a white man. You are a white man living in a country that has ALWAYS advanced and protected the rights and privileges of white men. Your political success represented nothing new and demonstrated no particular progress for this country.

On the other hand, Barack Obama is a black man who ignored people like you who tried to convince him and others that America was NOT the country he knew it to be, that his country is still too racist to allow him to achieve what every white man felt was his birthright. He instead banked his campaign on his faith that America is a better country than you believe or want it to be. And he, not you, was proven right.

His faith in America was vindicated. My faith in America was vindicated. The faith of millions of others was vindicated. But YOUR backward view of America and race was proven wrong. That, Joe, I suspect, is the gist of the problem you have with his comments.

You showed your true colors this morning and they're not pretty.

Joe Scarborough
[e-mail]

MSNBC
Mr. Phil Griffin,
Senior Vice President, News
NBC Television Network
30 Rockefeller Plz
New York, NY 10112
[e-mail]

Steve Capus,
President, NBC News
[e-mail]

MSNBC
[e-mail]
MSNBC/Microsoft-NBC
30 Rockefeller Plz
3rd Fl
New York, NY 10112
[phone]

[stray cat]

1. Glad you sent it - that was my take on Joe's comments as well

[skooooo]

2. Joe is such an idiot.

I can't stand to watch him. I'd rather watch Pat Buchanan than Scarborough.

[NanceGreggs]

3. Excellent!!!

:kick: & REC'D!!!

[huckleberry]

4. Please post the MSNBC e-mail address you used.

I want to send my comments also, which echo yours.

[1776Forever]

10. Here is one you can use - go to the bottom of the page.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/

[Sebass1271]

12. Go back to his post. He listed contacts phone # and e-mails

[EffieBlack]

15. I just added them after Huck's request

[Doctor_J]

5. I wish you would stop confirming to them that you watch Scab every day

every e-mail you send is verification that you're addicted to their programming.

[stray cat]

8. On the other hand they could care less about your opinion if you never watch

[Sebass1271]

9. Whether we are addicted to his programming they NEED to

hear from us and who disagree with Joe's point of view. I am not Black, i am hispanic but i thought Joe's comments were in fact a vindication of how certain white republicans feel about Obama running that they are so surprised that they will do or say anything to discredit Obama's clear achievements.

Maybe Joe's comments and views were not meant to be racist, and most likely he is not a racist person, but his true colors did come out this morning.

[stillcool]

22. I agree. I don't watch these shows..

but I read what is said and have no problem popping off an email. They know very well when they get a barrage of emails and phone calls that they've stepped over the line. While they may not care, I think it is important that they know when they are pissing people off.

[ratherunique]

6. joe is a douchebag

he belongs on fox

[stray cat]

7. Joe also says its an arrogant statement by Obama - he needs to look at McCain's

"I am no longer my own man I am my countrys"

"I always put my country first" - his choice of Palin nixes that idea

"I know how to win wars"

"I know how to find Bin Laden"

Feel free to add the many and better ones that I missed. McCain's arrogance has been out of this world.

[EffieBlack]

13. Confident White Man = Confident Man; Confident Black Man = Arrogant Black Man

'nuff said.

[stray cat]

17. You may be right - either that or the POW gives McCain cover

[EffieBlack]

20. It's probably both

But race is definitely an element. Black folk are used to be called "articulate" when we talk kinda good and "arrogant" when we're not surprised that we talk kinda good. :-)

[cyndensco]

11. I don't watch Morning Joe but your message to him is spot-on.

Judged on what little I know of him, I doubt he will get it. Never hurts to try though...:hi:

[EffieBlack]

23. Not trying to get him to "get it" - trying to make it less easy for him to say things like this

He gets away with it because no one ever calls him on it.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

14. As with many others here, I cannot watch Scabs either.

Thank you for taking the helm in monitoring this scumbag.

Great letter. :thumbsup:

[Hepburn]

16. Is there a way I can REC this thread more than once???

Excellent, truly excellent letter! :applause:

[EffieBlack]

21. Thanks! Please follow up with them!

Change in these kinds of things never comes until it's harder to keep things as they are than to do something different. So far, it's easier for the MSNBC brass to keep Scarborough on the air saying the same idiotic things because they aren't getting any heat about it. If we step up the pressure enough, we can make it more and more inconvenient for them to tolerate this crap.

[Tribetime]

18. Beautiful, Chris Matthews supported Obama on the same principle

yesterday on his show when it was brought up. He said sure McCain never doubted this country he grew up a white son of a Admiral in the navy, and was laughing as he said it, like it should be obvious to everyone why.

[Empowerer]

19. This is a perfect example of the problem with Scarbororough's refusal to include blacks in most of

his discussions.

He certainly knows that he could never say such stupid things with a black person sitting across the table from him. Just about any black person who has spent more than a week in the United States of America and who is capable of speech would have shot him down in about 2 minutes.

[krkaufman]

24. I'm confused a bit. Didn't Obama's statement mean that *he* had faith ...

... and that the Iowa vote proved his faith was correct, and disproved the doubters (like those still saying that the country won't elect an African-American)?

[EffieBlack]

27. Exactly - he's just repeating McCain's "He's not a real American" talking points

But he is spewing racial ignorance that needs to be put in check. Scarborough consistently throws rocks and hides his hand, playing the "who ME? How dare you call me racist" victim whenever he spits out this kind of crap. We need to call him on it.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

25. I'm glad I slept through "Morning Joe" and missed his broadcast.

Didn't need to be aggravated.

G-d willing Obama wins (I don't want to jinx it), I can't wait to see his sour puss face on Wed. morning.

[tsuki]

26. Imagine if the Black Man had a dead intern found in his office

under suspicious circumstance.

[sellitman]

40. *Ding, ding, ding. *

Most astute post of the day!

I personally never watch murders in the AM. It curdles my eggs.

[tsuki]

46. Thanks, I don't watch Joe either. He represented my district. He's

a loser.

[Lumpsum]

28. I really don't know why MSNBC keeps Joe around.

I hope his contract is up soon.

The huge ratings for shows like Countdown and Rachel Maddow show that it would be in NBC's interest to ditch people like Joe and fill out their roster with all left-leaning pundits and commenters. They could thrive as a full antithesis to Fox.

I mean, Joe can't even beat CNN's Morning News. Joe only regularly gets 250,000 viewers each morning, while Fox & Friends almost pulls a million.

[iamahaingttta]

29. Please folks, when you send these kinds of messages...

...you need to include their advertisers.
You need to send them to the advertisers as well, and you need to let the advertisers know that you will not be purchasing their products as long as they sponsor these kinds of attitudes.

It may not seem like it, but it is completely counter-productive to send a great letter like this without including the advertisers. It just proves to the programmers that you watch the show, that they have your eyeballs and that their ad rates are justified.

[EffieBlack]

30. Great point!

[avaistheone1]

31. Very important point.

[ellacott]

32. McCain tried to use these comments against Obama

But he forgets what he's said many times, he never loved his country until he was deprived of her company.

[mzmolly]

33. I agree with the "excellent" consensus.

:toast: K and R

[Laelth]

34. Well said. Pleased to k&r. n/t

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[ecstatic]

35. Yes. McCain and Scarborough do not get it. Obuse assholes nt

[liberalla]

36. He's at it again this morning.

Disgusting. Intentionally ignorant.
I'm sending in a complaint also.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

37. one minor caveat

I believe Barack said 'American people' not America. Does anyone know?

[EffieBlack]

41. You're right - I believe he did say "American people" nt

[Hell-A Liberal]

38. great letter - send it to Mika too if you can..

lord knows she could use some insight

[WinkyDink]

39. And he is one those whose looks really suffer with contact lenses. Hee.

[krawhitham]

42. do peope (MSM) not know what vindicated means?

In order to be vindicated you had faith for NO REASON but you still had faith. All Iowa did was justify the faith he ALWAYS had

[secondwind]

43. thank goodness!! I thought the same thing, and I was wondering:

"Why isn't anyone sitting around with Joe saying what I am thinking? Am I wrong?"


NO I WASN'T!!!



:patriot:

[Virginia Dare]

44. After the last eight years, many of us had lost faith in America...

Obama never did, and that is to his credit. This is bullshit for them to be smearing Obama and his supporters with this. They are on the outside looking in now and they don't like it.

[butterfly77]

45. Scarbourough needs to be asked:"

if he was a black man around the age of Rev.Wright who served his country wouldn't he say he didn't love his country in certain ways if you came back from fighting for this country and you were treated as a second class citizen. Does anyone have the picture of Rev.Wright attending to Pres.Johnson as a medical attendant?

[dem629]

47. MSNBC RESPONSE:

"Thank you for watching."

;)

[Ino]

48. Dead Intern Joe was spewing crap

Going on and on about how he (Joe) would tell his supporters that it wasn't about him, it was about them... my god, he's confused himself with Obama! I didn't believe him for one second. He's the biggest arrogant braggard I've ever heard. I end up fast-forwarding until I see his mouth has stopped moving. He loves himself sooooo much.