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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:24 AM
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If the national polls are 8-10% how then is Pa.even closer than that
impossible. I also think Ohio and Florida must be close to the national average, they both were pretty close in 04.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:28 AM
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1. OH and PA are going Obama.
Rightwing MSM is cherrypicking suspicious
polls.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:31 AM
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4. NBC used the Mason Dixon poll... always seemed to be skewed to repubs.
I really don't care. If it gets people off of their collective arses and in to the polls! Complacency is not our friend at this point. Get out there and work for Obama. I'm doing a 2 to 6 shift today!
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:42 AM
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9. To expand on that
The Mason Dixon Polls are essentially what the McSame folks are hanging their hat on. Their polls (as opposed to many others) consistently show Obama with a) less than 50% of the vote and b) leading McSame within 2-4 points. The Republican theory is that undecided white voters will break 4-1 for McSame, so they read a poll showing Obama up 47-45 as a 49-48 McSame victory.

I reckon we'll learn who had the better grasp of political science on Wednesday.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:06 PM
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11. Mason Dixon Polls
The Mason Dixon Polls are polling the Republican election theft teams around the country, and include the "theft factor" in calculating their results.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:10 PM
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12. What's funny is that M-D is actually an improvement over their previous poll.
1 point, I believe, but still an improvement.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:29 AM
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2. I think the national average...
is around 6-8 points.....
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tpi10d Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:31 AM
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3. here's my take:
National polls are averaging about 7 percent.

McCain is blasting PA with negative ads and has campaigned heavily there. At this time I think PA is just slightly outperforming national polling.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:43 AM
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10. HE'S ALSO USING....
the nasty Robocalls and filthy mailers (another Holocaust under Obama) in PA...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:32 AM
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5. McCain is throwing everything into PA.
Not surprising that it's tightened.
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John1956PA Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:34 AM
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6. PA has a lot of Catholics whose Bishops tell them abortion is the paramount issue.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:38 AM
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7. PA was 51-49 for Kerry people should not be shocked with a tightening.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 11:38 AM by BlueManDude
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:41 AM
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8. McFailin has camped out in PA and thrown everything he has into it.
It's not really that surpising at all. Just keep in mind that Obama hasn't felt the need to spend time there though. This tells me Obama is pretty confident about his position there.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:17 PM
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13. PA has a few things going against Obama.
1) People there are OLD! When all the jobs left in the 1980's, a lot of people left too, especially young people. Those nearing the end of their working age stayed behind.
2) It was the sight of a 6 week war during the primaries, in which Clinton threw the sink at him. This could have lingering effects.
3) The de-industrialization of the state has strengthened the influence of rural areas and their mentality within the state.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:19 PM
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15. there are also...
people in central PA who will not vote for a black man as chief plumber let alone PRESIDENT OF THE USA....
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:19 PM
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14. For next time, Dems should build a new city in the middle of PA.
:)
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