I CAN'T STAND JOHN MCCAIN AND FUCK ANYONE WHO SAYS HE'S "FUNNY" OR A "GOOD GUY"

[redstate_democrat]

Seriously. I'm reading people on DU comment on how McCain used to be a "good guy" and "honorable" and he's so funny blah blah blah.

McCain is an opportunistic turd who will sell out this country at every opportunity if it means it will save his own ass. He has no principles, morals, or standards. Look at how he treats his own fucking wife and kids. Where is that Bangladeshi kid you never see? Will she even be allowed to show her face election night? Fuck John McCain and that BITCH Cindy McCain.

They're going to lose and I will relish the fact that they did. I hope he loses his own fucking state as well.

The robo calls about Obama's "illegal Aunt" should lose him NM, CO, NV, and AZ. That is fucking DESPICABLE.
The Wright ad he along with the PA GOP put out today in PA should lose him the votes of every single fucking independent voter in America
This "socialism", "Communist", "redistributing the wealth" charge he has been making against Obama should shame him and sweep the GOP out of at least 15 senate seats Tuesday
This "terrorist" charge against Obama by McCain should lose him VA, NC, and FL in a LANDSLIDE just for good measure

His LIES about Obama are so over the top, he should forever be SHAMED and SHUNNED from polite society. He should be treated as a leper.

He is 72 years old with cancer in his history. Unfortunantely, I can't seem to muster a HINT of empathy for the man. Better people have died from cancer and he was spared. What does he do? TRASH a good man like Obama and place his life in danger when he talks this crap to the fundies.

And finally, he lied through his crooked, brown teeth about choosing a VP that would be able to be president on day one. This RAT BASTARD chose the least qualified imbecile in American politics, instead. She is nothing but a fundie snake handler, too stupid to pick up on social ques a fifth grader would be able to pick up on. She is so stupid. She knows nothing about the economy, foreign affairs, or even basic, BASIC American history and civics. John McCain is a TRAITOROUS BITCH for this. He has lied before to win a campaign (2000) and wrote a fucking book about it. Did he learn anything from 2000? HELL MOTHERFUCKING NO! He did the same thing here in 2008 because he is a small, empty, and WEAK MAN.

He is WEAK. He is NOT courageous. I don't care if people say he was a POW. I can't and won't believe that a piece of weak shit like McCain actually acted courageously in prison. He probably sang like a fucking bird. And now he wants America to collectively kiss his old tired ass. FUCK HIM. He gets ZERO respect from me.

He is NOT worthy to be MY president. Fuck him and Cindy McCain to hell. Go back to Arizona and retire from the public stage you fucking turncoat.

[Colobo]

1. Now, take a deep breath and relax.

No, John McCain is not fit to be our president, but to belittle his military service just because he's playing hardball against Obama in a presidential campaign is a little too much.

Yes- he probably sang like a "fucking bird" in Vietnam... but after spending 5 years getting the shit beaten out of you, who wouldn't?

[ikojo]

9. To hold him up as an exemplar of military

people is to do dishonor to people such as Eisenhower and Patton. McCain in NO WAY measures up to those two people. He is the privileged son of the military ELITE who got where he is the same way BUSH did...CONNECTIONS.

I could care less that he was a POW, so were many others but they didn't have McCain's connections and when they got back home they had to try and make a life THEMSELVES. THEY had to work through the VA and some didn't quite make it.

FUCK John McCain.

[Colobo]

14. I respect people who selflessly sacrifice for things greater than themselves.

John McCain did it in Vietnam. He did something most of us sitting comfortably in front of a keyboard wouldn't do.

[quiet.american]

39. I'm sorry -- what selfless sacrifice did McCain offer in Vietnam?

As former USAF myself, I ask this in all seriousness.

John Kerry -- yes.

John McCain -- ?

[Colobo]

61. I don't know

But deciding to stay in a torture chamber, when offered a chance to leave, just because they wouldn't liberate the other POWs is a beautiful act of solidarity and sacrifice.

[quiet.american]

63. Unfortunately, it's not a solitary "beautiful act." It's written into the Military Code of Conduct.

Now, I will give McCain the respect he deserves for surviving his ordeal. To me that makes him a survivor, not necessarily a hero. I think we've all swallowed a bit too much of the Kool-Aid, when it comes to drinking in his exploitative versions of his POW experience.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW_code_of_conduct

ARTICLE I.
I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

ARTICLE II.
I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.

ARTICLE III.
If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.

ARTICLE IV.
If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.

ARTICLE V.
When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

ARTICLE VI.
I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

[Window]

96. His dad would have disowned him. I've read was already disappointed in him.

[Tallison]

11. I agree

And I like that our perspectives of Repug candidates on DU tend to be more considerate than those of Obama/Biden I read on FR.

Progressivism to me means recognizing a little of yourself in everyone and a little of everyone in yourself.

[LostinVA]

13. We pretty much agree on nothing, but good post

[Colobo]

15. On nothing? How come?

[LostinVA]

18. It just seems like we usually disagree on many threads

[Colobo]

23. I would enjoy chatting with you- I think there's much more common ground

between us than what we might think.

[LostinVA]

30. At the very least, we can advocate for our vets and POWs

It's THE one thing I won't slam McCain on, especially his breaking under torture. A great uncle of mine did the same thing when tortured by teh Nazis when he was captured in WWII. According to some DUers, he's a traitor. WTF? I also have uncles and cousins who fought in Vietnam.

Oh -- I also won't talk about the age difference between teh McCains -- my wife is 18 years younger than me.

[redstate_democrat]

37. First of all, I did'nt call McCain a traitor because of his time as a POW

I don't know what the hell he did or didn't do as a POW. He is a TRAITOR because he has put America AT RISK with choosing Sarah Palin as his VP when he specifically said he would choose someone qualified on day one. He did NOT put "Country First" with his choice. That, it seems, is clear to most people in America. That was a self-centered, traitorous move in my book.

I keep referring back to the interviews Palin has had with Couric and Gibson and the prank call yesterday and I am APPALLED that McCain would do this to our country.

I am APPALLED at the type of campaign he has run.

Remember "B GIRL" and how he TRIED to start a race war in Western PA??? Was that good for the country? Should we all forget the traitorous actions of this man because he, like MANY others who he refuses to support in tangible ways, served this country in uniform?

My father served this country in the military. I have family in the military now. That does not make them superhuman, nor exempt from criticism or guilt for crimes against humanity and our country.

[LostinVA]

40. When did I say you did -- never

However, I have read posts on DU that says that very thing.

When the FUCK have I ever said I look up to McCain, etc. I said he was funny on SNL; I said that before 2004 he was neither a good guy nor a bad guy,and I still stand by that; I've said that his POW experiences and the age difference between he and Cindy should be off limits.
aI would NEVER vote for Mccain, and I think his allowing himself to be saddled with Palin (because I do NOT think she was HIS pick) shows yet another reason why he should not be President.

If you have relatives in the military, then you need to rethink your criticism of McCain breaking under torture.

Your OP pisses me off for the same reason the post I'm replying to pisses me off: you are just going off on DUers just to hear yourself preen about how right you are and how wrong everyone else is. The post above this reply lectures me on why McCain sucks -- I KNOW why he sucks. BUT I STILL THINK HE WAS FUNNY ON SNL. According to you, that means I can fuck off. Because YOU don't think he was, and you seem equate our thinking he's funny to our thinking he's an okay guy who should be President.

Ridiculous.

I bet President Obama will, as someone else on here said, use McCain as his "go to guy." McCain has shown his willingness to liaison with Dems, which is why so many Dem Senators get along with him -- like Senators Biden, Clinton, and Obama. He isn't a zealot.


WHY are you attacking and lecturing fellowDems over SNL of all things, TWO DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION???

Channel your vitriol towards something more constructive than the McCain QVC sketch. Which was very funny.

I'm done with this topic. It's ridiculous. NO ONE on DU except trolls likes McCain or thinks he should be President. Circular fucking firing squad.

[Danger Mouse]

47. There is a group of people on DU that are basically the liberal equivalent of freepers.

End of story.
:shrug:

[LostinVA]

65. Seriously

[TexasObserver]

42. McCain was a complete fuck up in the military.

Being a POW doesn't make him a good member of the military. It doesn't make him a hero. It makes him a guy who survived as a POW, like many others who also are not qualified to be president.

Why don't you take a deep breath, and hold it?

[Pamela Troy]

2. Cuddle that nice warm hatred tight.

It's as soothing as a bottle of whisky, isn't it? Goes down so smooooooth...

[Colobo]

3. This poster is too passionate. I mean, I hate McCain as a politician

and want to see him humilliated on election night, but I try not to go personal. Politics is a rough bloodsport.

[Enrique]

4. you can hate him if you want to

you list some good reasons why you can hate him if you choose to.

But if you don't want to hate him, you don't have to. You can do what Obama will do, and move on from McCain's dirty campaign.

[redstate_democrat]

6. I changed it to "I can't stand him"

I don't think I hate him, per se. I just strongly hate the politics he's playing. But I definitely can't stand him.

[Cha]

50. Well, I hate any fucktards messing around

with our country the way bush and his buddy mccain did for the last 8 years..and, if people think mccain is "funny" then just wait in the case he steals this election and they'll find out what fucking funny is.

[redstate_democrat]

79. Exactly.

Two days before the most important election of some of our lives and some people want to yuk it up about how funny McCain is.

:wtf:

Please! Have we forgotten what John McCain has done?? I'm sorry, but can we please save the large heapings of praise for McCain until AFTER Obama wins? It's a little to early to praise him in a pitying way right now. As we speak, McCain is meeting with his advisers, trying to figure out a way to take Obama, and US, down. He was crying about "fraudulent voters" but what he really meant was Democrats trying to vote for Obama. His campaign surrogates get up and rile up their crowds with the "Hussein" talk, the "terrorist" talk, the talk about Obama wanting courts empathetic to "The Gay" as if that is a bad thing. These people are SCUM. And what does McCain do, he wants their help. He called Western PA "The most patriotic, god fearing part of the country", when Democrats said Western PA had some problems. Why did he make that statement? He was trying to get a couple of more bigot votes and licked the bottom of the barrel to get it.

Funny thing is, if McCain were to win this thing, it would be because the "undecideds" found him to be "funny" and "likable" and not such a bad guy afterall. McCain is not funny. He can recite a joke on cue. That's all. This is how he pulls people in. This is how he is closer in the polls than any Repuke should be. People are FOOLED by his "humor" and "maverick persona" and this hero mythology which he has depended on time after time again.

[stray cat]

5. Any why is your opinion or in this case emotions more valid than anyone elses?

[redstate_democrat]

7. I didn't say they were. I'm expressing my own opinion and my view on others' opinion of McCain

being "a good guy". You can take it or fucking leave it.

[LostinVA]

16. No, you did say that -- you said fuck anyone who thinks he was funny, etc.

I think he was very funny. I know my good buddy Starbucks Anarchist does, too, along with many other fine DU liberals.

[WinkyDink]

29. Same way your query is. Get it?

[panader0]

8. Even back in 2000 when he had the grudging respect of a few Dems

he was a two faced crook behind the scenes. Don Bolles, a reporter from the Arizona Republic, was blown up in a car for getting too close to Cindy mccane's father and his Mafia connected alcohol distribution. I'm sure J-mac knows more than he's saying.

[Gabi Hayes]

44. thanks for that.not one mention EVER during this campaign about daddy's

criminal ties

and why didn't ANY mainstream journalist mention Bolles, one of their own

perhaps because they're aren't really any mainstream 'journalists' left, just poseurs?

[LostinVA]

10. McCain was very funny last night on SNL, and he used to be a decent Republican in teh Senate

I also believe that McCain's POW experiences SHOULD be off limits: there is no dishonor in breaking under severe interrogation. I have family members who did the same thing in WWII after being tortured.

My opinion is as legitimate as yours. You need to quit insulting good liberalson DU just because you don't agree with them.

[Jade Fox]

12. The heroic myths surrounding McCain are ....

rooted, I believe, in a national guilt about how this country has treated Vietnam Veterans.

The McCain we're seeing now is the real man, and it's almost like he wants to rub our face in it.

[redstate_democrat]

26. Apparently, some "good liberals" believed the myth hook line and sinker

I'm just waiting for more of these "good liberals' to rush in here and defend the "maverick McCain".

McCain has one of the WORST records in the Senate for supporting our veterans. You can't possibly care about VETERANS when you vote against their health care, family assistance, pay, and money for education.

You can't possibly really care about our troops when you vote against BODY ARMOR for the troops.

But he will put his zonked out wife on stage to denigrate Obama about "voting against the troops" when her husband did the exact same thing when it came to a timeline for withdrawal. Apparently he cared more about the Bush-Cheney-PNAC agenda rather than the sensible troop centered agenda for Iraq.

No, I don't care how many jokes McCain can tell on cue. He is still the same old lying ass fraud he is and has ever been.

[redstate_democrat]

28. dupe

[Rocknrule]

17. Someone once blasted me for "disrespecting a POW/American hero"

and I simply told them McCain can take his POW badge of honor and shove it up his ass

[bluedawg12]

64. He was called song bird by his captors.

Obama has been too much of gentleman to really, really delv into the war record. But it's out there.

[RepublicanElephant]

19. agree with everthing except "Fuck him and Cindy McCain to hell."

everyone can be saved.

even republicans.

[dkofos]

20. His campaign has shown his true color.

[PCIntern]

21. Good post...I've said this for YEARS

and fucking everyone argued with me...the same people who tell me how valuable Specter is to PA. BS, I say.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. calm down

we're going to win. jeez, save your venom for when we need it.

[MNDemNY]

24. And he was a poor Naval Aviator.

did he crash 3 or 4 planes, other than the one he had shot out from under him?

[TheDonkey]

25. McCain = Piece of Shit.

[GoneOffShore]

27. You expressed it far more venomously than I would have, but

Yes and yes again.

The reason that "Crash" McCain ended up in a NV prison camp is because he violated protocol and didn't attempt to dodge the SAM that had "locked" on his plane. He decided to go for a medal and got shot down instead. Not a hero - he fucked up.

He has been a lying toe rag his entire career. Nothing about him to look up to.

[Gabi Hayes]

45. haven't been able to find details on that....where can one find them. thanks

I've heard he got shot down due to his own carelessness, but would love to know the rest

I like how he clipped that power line in Spain, though

[GoneOffShore]

62. It was in the Rolling Stone article

And they got it from his autobiography.

[Gabi Hayes]

86. good...I have that one...stopped reading just as he went of on RandR

with his newfound pal, Johnny Apple

[fourvahl]

31. Oooh Graaaandpaaaa

I hear you. I get angry too sometimes but then I think.. Ohhhh Graaandpaaa.. and he seems insignificant.

[Laelth]

32. Righteous rant! I find little here to disagree with. n/t

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[dascientist]

33. FURIOUS CANINE

mad doggie

[BeyondGeography]

34. The Republicans are going so far right after he loses that McCain will wind up a functional Democrat

and he'll wind up being one of President Obama's go-to Republicans.

Oh, and the vitriol that will be heaped on him by the other side after Tuesday will make your OP sound like a love note.

[Danger Mouse]

48. McCain's going to be ripped a new one by his own party.

Obama is going to be one of the ones being kind to him...you can bet your ass that Obama will be gracious.

[Political Tiger]

35. I agree

McShame sold his soul to the devil.

[Meshuga]

36. He is funny because he is an idiot but has been proven by this campaign...

...not to be a good guy.

[Waiting For Everyman]

72. His so-called 'humor' is for the PURPOSE of getting away with more.

His self-deprecating humor is a calculated ploy, and his jokes about others are nasty and not funny.

People fall for it, I can't see why.

[bertman]

38. I'm a Vietnam vet. I can't stand McCain. He's a liar, a cheat, and a weasel, but last night

on SNL he was funny as hell. Good script. Good delivery.

Now, everyone say after me: "We are all individuals."

[LostinVA]

41. Exactly -- good post

"Thank you, Cindy."

hehehehehehhehehehe

[bertman]

56. Ewwwwwwww!!!! But that was funny, too.

And wasn't Miss Buffalo Chips just awesome as the dummy necklace model?

[quiet.american]

43. I tell you what, too -- I cannot find McCain funny given his vicious and dangerous campaign.

I just can't. I don't care if he had better material than Chris Rock -- I cannot find him "funny."

[Danger Mouse]

46. To be fair, let's see how you'd hold up under torture before casting judgement on what he did

while a POW.
On the other hand, I wish he'd shut the hell up about it. Or just shut up in general. He's a prick.
On edit: You also have no right to judge others because they found McCain to be funny. I've laughed at a few of his lines...that doesn't mean I like the guy. Give people a break...your OP is assholish and freeplike.

[redstate_democrat]

49. Oh wait a minute, you tell me I have no right to "judge people" yet you call my OP

assholish and freeperlike and then go on the lecture the hell out of me about how I shouldn't judge others. Why don't you "give me a break" like you're requesting I give others.

You're telling me I have no right to judge others, yet, you're doing the same thing.

[Danger Mouse]

52. Well, you basically said 'fuck people with a different opinion from me'...

how is that different from what a freeper would say?
And again, before you pass judgment on somebody's behavior as a POW, I'd like to see how you hold up under torture.

[redstate_democrat]

54. Because Freepers are fucking wrong about everything that's why

When I get assholish, I'm usually calling out assholish things. Freepers act like freepers just for the sake of it.

People seem to have a very short attention span. What pisses me off is reading people on DU who are supposed to be "progressives" and "liberals" heap praise on someone like McCain. This is a messageboard for DEMOCRATS. I read some people's posts and they NEVER have a good word about Obama but every time someone mentions McCain and POW in the same sentence, these people rush in to defend the "maverick" from any possible, and HINT, of criticism.

I don't care what anyone says. McCain is NOT a good guy. There is no evidence that he is.

Right now his campaign is stealthily running a campaign in various battleground states that are doing the following:

1. Calling Obama a Nazi sympathizer; saying he would cause a second Holocaust
2. Calling Obama a terrorist sympathizer; "palling around with terrorists"
3. Calling Obama a socialist, communists, and redistrubuter
4. Running ads with Rev. Wright and even mentioning Obama's kids in the commercial
5. Sending robocalls out about Obama's "illegal aunt", something so despicable and low down, the leak of this information should be investigated and someone should go to jail
6. Calling Obama "risky" and "dangerous" simply because he has a different plan
7. Calling Obama "sexist" and "racist"
8. Trying to pit Democrats against each other and has succeeded in some instances
9. Actively trying to take away people's right to VOTE in selected states with meaningless lawsuits based on incredible accusations against ACORN, then tried to tie Obama to ACORN's problems.
10. Claiming, out of his own mouth, that Obama is taking money from foreigners and that Obama should be investigated
11. They have filed ethics charges against Obama in the senate
12. Some McCainiac has now claimed that he doesn't believe Obama is a United States citizen

I could go on and on but this stuff is happening TODAY and people on DU can still find the time to praise McCain for being "funny" on SNL last night. Excuse me, but, I'm sure David Duke can be funny at times. I'm sure George Bush can be funny at times. Dick Cheney too. Michele Bachman can probably be funny too. Should we use DU bandwith to start yuking it up about how funny and likable they are, too????

[Danger Mouse]

68. Well, that's how you feel but they feel differently.

I see nothing wrong with people saying that they thought McCain was funny. As vicious as he's been, I would put money on the fact that if Obama wins, he will immediately extend an olive branch and offer McCain to be on his side. If McCain decides to be a bitter ass and rebuffs him, that's his own problem, but I have a feeling that Obama's talk of bipartisanship wasn't just talk.
:shrug:

[Waiting For Everyman]

75. He sold out others who were tortured too - I'd rather be for them.

Fuck him.

[Danger Mouse]

78. Again, let's see how YOU would hold up under torture. Then you can feel free to judge all you want.

[Waiting For Everyman]

92. I'll judge that jackall all I want, thank you. Your bias is your own.

Oh and btw, Elrond, my husband was taken prisoner and tortured too but luckily was liberated by some SFs passing through. Although he's dead now, his views on McC were the same, and I'll speak for him and other POW buddies of his ANYTIME I WANT. I don't need your permission to hold any opinion I may have, which is JUST as valid as yours, if not moreso.

Your premise btw too, is erroneous - that a person has to experience a thing in order to "judge" it.

[Danger Mouse]

95. I'm sorry about your husband...

which probably sounds really stupid coming out of me, but I mean it.

...I still disagree with you, though.

[TooRaLoo]

51. He's funny sometimes.

I can say that objectively. That *doesn't* mean I respect him or won't relish his losing the presidential bid.

Unwind your shorts a lil' bit, you'll feel better.

[AntiFascist]

53. McCain is a Military Socialist !

Military spending is, by far, the biggest "social program" that our government sponsors, and McCain has no problem at all spreading that wealth with all of his friends in the defense industry. Notice how Barney Frank gets booed loudly when McCain points out that Frank wants to reduce military spending by 20%. That's because the Nazi-like hatemongers that McCain and Palin appeal to are so bigoted and set in their offensive ways that everyone who is outside of their white, heterosexual, Christo-Republican, America is considered the enemy. This is not the "real America" of our forefathers, it is more like what they were warning us about.

[adoraz]

55. sorry, but this post in uncalled for

he was funny on SNL last night, and please don't make any negative references to him as a PoW.

If you want to bash him, at least have legit points, not ignorant ones.

Bash his record and the awful campaign he is running instead.

[redstate_democrat]

57. That's what I did. Maybe you should perhaps READ before responding.

I listed a variety of reasons for my dislike of him, many of them policy positions. I didn't mention his being a POW until the last two sentences, which you obviously paid more attention to more than anything.

You have a lot of nerve calling my points ignorant when you didn't even read them. The only thing I have "bashed" in this thread is his "record" and "the awful campaign he is running". Instead you chose to jump on the POW sentence. That's not my fault.

[adoraz]

59. relax, settle down. I read your full post.

really, take a chill pill.

Your post is ignorant. I thought McCain was funny on SNL last night, so therefore you say "fuck you" to me? WTF is your problem? I think McCain is a funny man, but that has absolutely no effect on my vote anyways. George Bush's personality (the one to have a beer with) had no effect on me in 2000, and for good reason. Why the hostility for something irrelevant?

Even if the PoW part was only the last few sentences, that was the last part I read and it was completely uncalled for.

Thats like saying something like this-

I don't like Obama because I don't agree with his polices...............(rant)................................................ oh, and also because he is a Muslim terrorist.

The last part makes the post not creditable.

Get it?

We don't need to win this election by making stupid comments. That is what the Republicans have been doing the last few weeks (months), and it isn't working. We can win this by sticking to the policies.

[Jed Dilligan]

58. So, Fuck Joe Biden? Is that what you're saying?

[redstate_democrat]

60. Oh whatever.

Hey, if you people want to waste time talking about how likable and funny John McCain is, while he calls Obama a commie, socialist, criminal, terrorist sympathizing, sexist, antiAmerican, non American, then that's fine by me.

I, on the other hand, can choose to find it fucking stupid.

[Jed Dilligan]

70. Hey, I hate McCain and see no merit in him.

But I don't see the value in saying "fuck you" to good people on our side who see it differently.

[redstate_democrat]

77. Fuck you is a figure of speech.

Meant to depart that I find it stupid to be praising McCain in any way shape or form 2 days before the most important election of our lives while McCain runs down Obama and his family in the most despicable ways.

The LAST person I would find anything about to praise right now is McCain.

I can't simply forget everything he has done this far and see anything but opportunism in his "jokes". I'm saddened that so many people can.

[cherokeeprogressive]

80. Boy do I feel stupid. I always thought FUCK YOU was an insult.

I didn't realize the rules had changed.

[redstate_democrat]

81. Well, some people will take it that way.

I find it insult to praise McCain in anyway shape or fashion 2 days before the election when this man is running down Obama in the most despicable ways.

That's like someone here on DU making post after post about Bush being really, really likable and funny, someone you'd want to have a beer with, 2 days before the 2004 election. And Bush didn't say half the shit about Kerry that McCain has said about Obama.

I would have said FUCK YOU to those folks too, then, if I had been here.

[LostinVA]

88. It IS an insult -- there's no other way to take it

[Jed Dilligan]

82. I wouldn't assume otherwise--I was not imagining that you were

actually threatening to penetrate those who disagree with a penis or penis-like object.

That being said, the figure of speech "fuck you" isn't among those figures of speech used to rally political parties at important electoral moments.

[Waiting For Everyman]

66. I completely agree.

He's just another shark with no soul. Always was, even young he was a creep.

[GoneOffShore]

105. Too right!

Always thought he was a creep.

[malik flavors]

67. Lotta hate in that OP. I'm voting FOR Obama, not against McCain.

[redstate_democrat]

71. Good for you. I'm doing both.

What I find "hateful" is John McCain's campaign. My post simply calls out his despicable campaign. If you find criticism of his despicable campaign "hate", then that's on you.

[musicblind]

90. John McCain's campaign was not as bad as it COULD have been

Sure it was bad. But I honestly expected someone to have dropped the "n" word by this point.

I do respect John McCain. I think, deep down, he's a decent person who has gotten himself caught up with some very very bad people and policies.

I don't feel that way about Bush. I think Bush is a very bad man. I think Cheney is a very bad man. I think Rove is a very very very bad man. But McCain... idk. All I know is that I never want him to be president.

Plus, I remember all the people who wrongfully said similar things about Hillary Clinton after the primaries... as though they were SHOCKED that someone ran a balls to the wall political campaign.

Is McCain an angel... nope. He is a demon... not really.

[iamthebandfanman]

69. well, he IS funny. when he plays funny roles.

in actuality , hes not funny at all and definitely not a 'good person'.

but he is and has been funny almost everytime hes been on SNL. i find it strange he cant translate that over to real life.

[ecstatic]

73. The Wright ad is airing in GA too. I wonder why?

:shrug:

[nickn777]

74. Agreed. He is a fucking asshole. n/t

[ecstatic]

76. I agree with you, but my parents and even Obama admitted they find McShame funny

It may be a generational thing.

Frankly I'm so disgusted by McShame that I don't find his stiff body language and straining voice amusing in any way.

[SweetieD]

83. I agree. I have ZERO respect for John McCain. ZERO! He is not a hero just a Coward and Fool.

[central scrutinizer]

84. totally agree - rank opportunist

all of his shtick is canned, rehearsed bullshit

[LostinVA]

89. SNL is a scripted show

[opihimoimoi]

85. I'm with you guy....Inadequate, uninformed, old fashioned, mis guided, apathetic, Insensitive,

Visionless, Unable to SOLVE.

Look at the evidence....He is the War hero, 26 years in the Senate, Tons of Friends /Connections/favorsa owed/etc

and yet....a Jr Senator, unknown and wet behind the ears, of color and funny name, is kicking his ass......

I love this thread.....

[MasonJar]

87. John McCain actually has a lot in common with Dubya. He was a

college legacy, which is okay, but he also barely scraped by at a major university. Like Bush he probably only graduated because of his family connections. Like Bush a big boozer and party guy, and while W got by because of daddy and daddy's friends, McCain let his second wife support his disasters. They are both self-centered and sociopathic and pathetic men-children, who have had too much success for way too little effort and substance. In addition, they are obviously also both warmongers personified, with little clear actual detailed knowledge of the political world they find themselves in. This is the danger we have and might inflict, not only on the USA, but also the world community.

[Top Cat]

91. I cannot stand the bastard either

[kath]

93. A **must-read** article:

(it's a shame that so few here seem to have read it) which details so many ways in which McCain is a sleazy scumbag asshole:
Make Believe Maverick http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Here is the beginning of the article:

At Fort McNair, an army base located along the Potomac River in the nation's capital, a chance reunion takes place one day between two former POWs. It's the spring of 1974, and Navy commander John Sidney McCain III has returned home from the experience in Hanoi that, according to legend, transformed him from a callow and reckless youth into a serious man of patriotism and purpose. Walking along the grounds at Fort McNair, McCain runs into John Dramesi, an Air Force lieutenant colonel who was also imprisoned and tortured in Vietnam.

McCain is studying at the National War College, a prestigious graduate program he had to pull strings with the Secretary of the Navy to get into. Dramesi is enrolled, on his own merit, at the Industrial College of the Armed Forces in the building next door.

There's a distance between the two men that belies their shared experience in North Vietnam — call it an honor gap. Like many American POWs, McCain broke down under torture and offered a "confession" to his North Vietnamese captors. Dramesi, in contrast, attempted two daring escapes. For the second he was brutalized for a month with daily torture sessions that nearly killed him. His partner in the escape, Lt. Col. Ed Atterberry, didn't survive the mistreatment. But Dramesi never said a disloyal word, and for his heroism was awarded two Air Force Crosses, one of the service's highest distinctions. McCain would later hail him as "one of the toughest guys I've ever met."

On the grounds between the two brick colleges, the chitchat between the scion of four-star admirals and the son of a prizefighter turns to their academic travels; both colleges sponsor a trip abroad for young officers to network with military and political leaders in a distant corner of the globe.

"I'm going to the Middle East," Dramesi says. "Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran."

"Why are you going to the Middle East?" McCain asks, dismissively.

"It's a place we're probably going to have some problems," Dramesi says.

"Why? Where are you going to, John?"

"Oh, I'm going to Rio."

"What the hell are you going to Rio for?"

McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.

"I got a better chance of getting laid."

Dramesi, who went on to serve as chief war planner for U.S. Air Forces in Europe and commander of a wing of the Strategic Air Command, was not surprised. "McCain says his life changed while he was in Vietnam, and he is now a different man," Dramesi says today. "But he's still the undisciplined, spoiled brat that he was when he went in."

There's more. Much more.
McCain is definitely NOT a "good guy". That characterization of him could not be farther from the truth.

[elshiva]

97. "I got a better chance of getting laid."

:banghead:

[redstate_democrat]

101. He's a lazy, dumb motherfucker who believes the world should be handed to him on a silver platter

[ellie]

94. Agreed. He is a vile motherfucker.

[WallStreetNobody]

98. McCain is a racist asswipe - plain and simple. He has absolutely no honor or integrity.

[codjh9]

99. All anyone has to do is read the long piece in Rolling Stone on him and see what an asshole

he is, and how he's basically just another Bush, but - gasp! impossibly! - probably WORSE! Another spoiled punk of a long line of more-accomplished elders, who gets where & what he wants because of his family, not because of his own mettle, and w/McPuke, throw in a hot(ter) temper and more abusive behavior as compared to W. Yeah, wunnerful guy...

[Sewsojm]

100. Screw McSame!!

[pettypace]

102. Never thought I'd defend John McCain

however, Redstate, your distinctly candid post has lead me to it.

The 2008 election has been one of the worst for a Republican to run in in recent memory, to the point that a son of a Kenyan immigrant named Barack Hussein Obama is likely to be elected in a potential landslide, 7 years after 9/11! McCain is running on the party whose current figurehead has the lowest approval rating since the Industrial Revolution it seems. In other words, he's left to his own devices in even trying to make this race competitive, and unfortunately it's led to tripe about socialism and Ayers. Even still, those two topics weren't exactly developed out of thin air, no matter how dubious the links or inference may be. Fuck it, that's politics baby, especially since he's fighting uphill to put it lightly.

McCain, to his credit, has not personally used Rev Wright in this campaign, (something we can't say about the junior Senator from New York even).

McCain has defended BO during his rally's to the result of being booed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjUeMqTKfwE). That was the 2000 McCain.

Now as for Sarah Palin, you must realize there are millions of Americans who have admiration for her and her abilities, as I saw by the tremendous crowd that waited for her yesterday in Raleigh. I've seen her speeches, and the lady is passionate, and has talent on the stump, something 99 percent of the 600 governors, senators, and congressmen couldn't dream of. A Rhodes Scholar, she is not...but how many Bill Clintons are there:) Really, how much more of a chance would a McCain/Romney ticket have...I seriously doubt Mitt would draw like Palin.

Lastly, the greatest tragedy of John S McCain's political career was his faltering in the 2000 primaries, for the country would have been in much better hands with him instead of Bush II these last 8 years. Watch last Thursday's Daily Show - Jon Stewart stated he would have voted for McCain over Gore were that the matchup (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189769&title=intro-bill-the-editor).

When Obama wins Tuesday, the story of John McCain will be a positive one, he won't be running president anymore.

[FlyingSquirrel]

103. Did you say Rat Bastard?

Been listening to Mike Malloy lately? :evilgrin:

[Vektor]

104. John McCain IS an asshole, but rest assured...

Obama's leads are healthy in NM, CO, NV, PA and McCain is likely to win AZ on his own. Childish lunacy from the far right is NOT going to cost Obama any of those states which he has a firm lead in. PA is rock solid and that tired, old, regurgitated, dusty Rev. Wright crap became a huge bore sometime last spring, anyway. Nobody cares.

The fact that the GOP is still running last minute desperate attack ads in states they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning says more about them than it does about Obama, and is sad, and pathetic. It will drive more votes away from McCain than toward him. The 11th hour exhumation of the corpses of Ayers and Wright really shows how laughable the Mccain campaign has become.

NOBODY except the frothing right wing base who would never vote for a Dem anyway give a flying fuck about the whole psychotic, ridiculous, asinine Ayers/Wright/Socialist crap, and MOST ASSUREDLY, NOBODY gives a shit about a half-aunt whose immigration status Obama had no clue about.

The only people who give that stupidity an ounce of notice are firmly planted in the "batshit insane, toothless mouth-breathing, redneck Republican" category and always will be. They latch onto this drivel, because they don't have a leg to stand on with the REAL issues and the country KNOWS it.

Reasonable folk have already decided who they are going to vote for, and it's OBAMA.

[Iggo]

106. Can't stand him either. But he is funny.

And fuck you, too!

:rofl:

[Mimosa]

107. Lay off McCain's teeth, darnit!!!

Look, he's old and his teeth have shifted and he doesn't get them bleached. A lot of us can't afford fancy scmancy dentalwork and bleaching! LOL

[Kablooie]

108. Well, I say he's funny and a good guy! !

I'm lonely and I need a good fuck.

[Dammit Ann]

109. .

[lonestarnot]

110. K & R except for the go back to Arizona part!

:evilgrin: