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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:42 PM
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I just paid less than two bucks a gallon for gas. I guess it really is election time
I suggest everyone fill up in the next couple of days. Odds are it starts to go up again at about 8:00 local time on tuesday.



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tpi10d Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:47 PM
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1. As I recall '04 gas prices went up shortly after the election.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 06:49 PM by tpi10d
I filled up today also..prices have been in freefall for the last few weeks.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:47 PM
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2. You just paid less than $2...
because the economy is on the verge of collapse. Being happy about the current price of gas is like being happy about how much cheaper housing is now.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:49 PM
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5. I am implying price manipulation for the benefit of the Republican party
sorry if I was not clear
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:22 PM
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22. You were clear, and you're right. Pumpkins and candy corn mean Halloween is coming...
...low gas prices and less banging on war drums mean it's election time.

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:50 PM
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7. I'm happy I can now pay my other bills as well as fill my gas tank.
This was not so much the case two months ago. So yeah, I'm happy. Maybe the lower gas prices will help consumers get the economy moving again. It's easier to spend money on other things when it isn't being dumped into your gas tank. lol
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:48 PM
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3. You noticed that strange coincidence too, eh?
I just thought of that yesterday, hmmmm, here we go again, prices dropping before an election. This sudden big drop in price at election time, and huge record profits for the big oil corporations *during bad economic times*, shows that prices didn't need to be that high.

There's also that strange coincidence of this happening while "oilmen" (including Rice) control the government.

Can we say PRICE FIXING? That's being allowed to happen?

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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:49 PM
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4. I paid $1.97 a gallon for regular unleaded here in Kansas City
yesterday. The prices have been dropping steadily here since just after Hurricane Ike. It was $3.95 a gallon just before Ike.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:49 PM
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6. I paid 2.569 on Friday - one month before that, I had filled up for 3.629.
The last price I saw was yesterday, 2.519.

I can't fill up, though, 'cause my tank is still full from Friday. :D
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:51 PM
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8. I paid $2.29 today in Olympia, WA. It's dropping about ten cents a day here.
Absolutely stunning. Not so sure I agree with the OP that it's being manipulated because of the election. I think it's because oil futures are in the toilet. But I'm still thankful for the relief.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:54 PM
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12. $2.45 is the lowest price I've seen in Everett
Olympia probably gets a discount because there's so many government bureaucrats there.:sarcasm:
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:59 PM
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16. LOL. I wouldn't doubt it.
Costco has it even cheaper, though. I like to store up the discounts on my Safeway card and use them. Last month I got a sixty cent per gallon discount. I wept as I pumped it, but they were happy tears for a change. lol
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:03 PM
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17. Maybe a little from column A, a little from column B.
I think the prices were being manipulated before and were artificially high.
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:53 PM
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9. I paid $1.89 a gallon today in Texas
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happychatter Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:57 AM
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25. I remember self serve in San Antonio at 19 cents.... wow, I'm old - n/t
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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:53 PM
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10. told my neighbors yesterday
to gas up cuz Wednesday it'll be 4 bux again.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:53 PM
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11. How do we keep the prices DOWN?
Regulate and investigate the hell out of the oil companies and wall street.

It's also how we restore confidence to the banking system so that they will loan money again.

Nobody trusts anything right now because they haven't just been lying to us, they've been lying to each other too.

Doug D.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:56 PM
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15. we could try invading an oil rich country in the middle east !!! Oh, Wait..... Shrub tried that
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:55 PM
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13. call off the drilling!!
we got more gas than we know what to do with all of a sudden!!
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:56 PM
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14. I'll top off both cars on Tuesday. nt
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:04 PM
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18. My boss and I have a wager
He says its all the economy, and OPEC will "stabilize" things somewhere near where we are now.

I say its the election, and gas will be over 3 again around inauguration day.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:11 PM
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21. I think you have the better side of that bet.. I would even say by Christmas..
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:01 AM
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23. that was my initial thought
But I decided to hedge my bets, based on the idea that the "they" might wait so that they can raise it after Obama is sworn, so they can blame it on him.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:07 PM
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19. OPEC is worried about Obamas talk of alternative energy initiatives.
That and dropping demand because of collapsing economies worldwide is causing OPEC to cut back on production and price.

I also think that prior to the economic collapse, hedge fund managers who bought credit default swaps pushed the price of oil up by relentlessly bidding on oil futures. The bought oil futures and drove up the price of gasoline. This in turn pushed sub-prime mortgage owners over the financial edge. Rising fuel and commodity prices accelerated mortgage defaults. The hedge fund managers who held the default swaps cashed in. The banks and financial institutions that issued the swaps fell flat on their faces cause they did not have the cash to pay out. Mortgage holders who lost their homes and mortgages end up paying these thieves with their tax dollars.
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parabolabear Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:11 PM
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20. haha still $2.69 here in nyc! but much better than $4+/gallon
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:34 AM
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24. I filled my van up the other day for $40! When gas prices were higher it cost $72. nt
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 05:50 AM
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26. Not going to happen
The pump price nationally is still far too high, compared to the futures price per gallon. Consequently the pump price will continue to drift downward, long after election day.

Right now the national pump price is about $2.40 and the futures price is roughly $1.50. The typical gap is 50 to 60 cents. So you can seen we still have 30 to 40 cents more to drop. The pump price will only shoot up if the trading price goes haywire upward, and there's no indication of that.

In other years your skepticism was valid. This is an extremely rare situation of an elongated slide in oil prices that has yet to fully hit the pump price.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:04 AM
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27. A study would be interesting.
In my memory, every time an election year rolls around with Republicans in the White House, the price of gas goes down just before the election. I don't remember that happening with Democratic White Houses. A comparative study would be interesting.

Months ago, when prices were at their peak, I told DH that they'd come down right before the election as that has been my experience.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:15 AM
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28. Actually gas prices dropped more in 2000 than in 2004.
In 2000 gas prices peaked at $1.66 in the summer, declined to $1.50 by the first week of November, then continued down to $1.38 in the winter. In 2004 prices peaked at $2.03 in the summer, declined just to $1.99 by the election, then continued down to $1.75 by winter.

The biggest percentage declines from summer highs to early November prices was 29.5% in 2001, 28% in 2005 and 24.2% in 2006. While 2006 was a national election year, the other two were not election years.

Gas prices usually hit bottom in December or January (sometimes in February), rise in the spring, hit a high during the summer driving season and then decline in the fall to another mid-winter bottom. If we had our election in May instead of November, we probably won't see as much price manipulation speculation.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html
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wolverinez Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:50 AM
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29. Demand is down 10%
A huge amount of people in the U.S. stopped buying and using SUV's.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:01 AM
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31. That's what I think too, people stopped driving and the franchise stations were getting killed
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:58 AM
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30. yes those puppeteers that control everything have lowered the price of gas to help mccain
but at the same time they also arranged for 71% spike in the number of foreclosures in the third quarter of this year and for unemployment to hit a five year high.

Silly puppeteers.
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