GRRRR! Outnumbered at a family gathering

[MorningGlow]

Okay, I just survived being surrounded by McCain supporters at my son's family birthday party. (It wasn't at my house--it was at my mom's--so I couldn't even throw the infidels out.) A cousin said that she WAS going to vote for Obama until her daughter (a huntin' redneck) told her that he refused to put his hand over his heart when facing the flag and refused to wear a flag pin--like THAT is the most important issue facing this country. Apparently that was a deal breaker for her. :eyes:

But what was worse was my fundie-Catholic, Rush- and O'Reilly and Hannity-lovin' aunt, who started in on "all the terrorists he's lived with". Yeah, ALL the TERRORISTS he's LIVED with.

:wtf:

I started to respond, but she SHUT ME DOWN. She wouldn't look at me and talked over me. Typical, yes? So I said, "I don't care who you vote for in the end, but you could at least listen to the truth about those accusations first."

Apparently not. She walked right out of the room without another word.

I mean... :grr: I'm all for a healthy political argument, but she wouldn't even let me talk for five seconds. Is this how the braindead always act when faced with possibly hearing the truth?

[Lakerstan]

1. Aunts at a picnic are never a good thing.

[MikeE]

9. I really need to stop drinking things when readin these comments

:spray: LOL

[MorningGlow]

10. ROFL!

Should I have stomped her?

[Libby2]

15. lmao

[knixphan]

58. OH!...

I just got that.

:rofl:

[Hissyspit]

2. Yes.

That is how the braindead always act when faced with possibly hearing the truth.

[MorningGlow]

12. I've never seen anybody's back so fast

Gods forbid they hear anything other than what Hannity et al's been feeding 'em.

[ccharles000]

3. ....

:hug:

[MorningGlow]

14. Thanks

I was SO discouraged on the way home.

Back atcha. :hug:

[Kdillard]

4. They don't want to hear the truth because then they would realize they have no

good reason to vote against Obama and they would have to really look at why they are voting for McCain.

[MorningGlow]

16. That's for sure

I think any counter arguments would have worked on her like water on the Wicked Witch of the West. "I'm melllllltiiiiinnggg!"

[progressiveforever]

5. After 2004, I have few Repug family I speak to...

and basically no repug friends.

[MorningGlow]

17. Usually we stay away from politics

Maybe we should have stuck to that rule for a few more days. :(

[BlooInBloo]

6. 2 more days.

[MorningGlow]

20. Can I do a victory dance in her front yard Wednesday morning?

She might disown me, but I'm willing to take that chance. :evilgrin:

[BlooInBloo]

24. You have my blessing.

[jezebel]

7. Yeah I know how you feel. I've been working on my dad to vote for Obama, he's a Rep. but today he

told me he's not going to vote for Obama, he's voting McCain. He said he would have voted Obama but it occured to him if Obama wins, he is probably going to be assasinated and then there are going to be race wars in the country... so he doesn't think he should win.

I mean how can you argue with such utter stupidity?

[MorningGlow]

21. Now that's some magnificent logic right there

:crazy:

It is the level of stupidity that gets me. I expect people to actually think logically about these things, so when they spout off with completely insane stuff like what I heard tonight--and what your dad said--I start to lose faith in humanity.

[LiberalFighter]

39. I guess he might be admitting that white people are bad people

cause they would be most likely to do it.

[Cha]

8. Poor you! At Your son's birthday..

Oh well, you'll be the one celebrating on Wednesday:party:

Beyond Low Information Voters live in their own hell.

[MorningGlow]

22. His "real" birthday is Tuesday

He was born on an election day too :D -- so it's going to be a hell of a week.

Those low-info voters can have their hell--I just have to remember not to visit it.

[Cha]

29. Tuesday! Why didn't you

say so?! This is too ironic..Happy Birthday to your son, MorningGlow~:party:

[MorningGlow]

33. Ain't it, though?!

Thanks, Zidzi--I will pass your good wishes along. :party:

This is him on Friday before trick-or-treating:

[Cha]

42. Adorable child and the Fall

Halloween motif is charming~

[MorningGlow]

48. Thanks

We live in Mayberry, I swear. Lots of folksy decorating in the nabe--when it comes to Halloween, I can't help but join in! :D

[SmileyRose]

11. My "cousin in law" told me he has proof Obama is one of Osama's kids.

No, I'm not making that up. When my husband bust out laughing the idiot was going to take my husband outside and beat him up to prove what a REAL American is like.

Look, I know it's painful but some people you just have to write off.

[MorningGlow]

23. Ohmigod

That's impressive in its insanity.

You're right--I KNOW my aunt is a hopeless case--she always has been--but I'd been holding my tongue since Clinton's impeachment, and I couldn't resist trying to have a sensible conversation. Just once. My mistake!

[LiberalFighter]

41. You should had told him that you have proof that McCain lived with Communists

for 5 1/2 years in his formative years on a daily basis.

[holiday]

13. I've just started laughing when they say stuff like that and

going "OMG you believe that bwhahahahahahahaha" and laughing in their face.

If they keep talking I laugh more.

[MorningGlow]

32. I wish I could laugh

She pissed me off SO BAD I wanted to throw things. Not for her point of view, but for her complete refusal to listen to any dissenting opinion.

[holiday]

49. I know what you mean... I went to party last night too and

someone was brave and wore an Obama mama shirt and she had to hear so much shit.. I wanted to say "don't we live in a democracy?"

[MorningGlow]

51. I blame Faux

and the rest of the right wing, for their divisiveness. Everyone used to have a right to his/her opinion years ago; what's happened to political discourse over the pat 10 years or so is a crime.

[holiday]

53. I know.. my mom swears up and down you use to have your

guy you wanted to win but after the election, it was all good.. and everyone got behind the president. Now they are out for blood.

You think we get mad now during the election wait until he is president and we have to hear people try and tear him down! It will suck, but I have faith he will be one of the best presidents in my lifetime

[MorningGlow]

55. That's what I told my mom the other day

Faux and the other right-wing shills will start in on him IMMEDIATELY and start griping that he's not fixing all our problems fast enough--you know, those problems that pundits have said are going to take DECADES to fix. It's gonna continue to be ug-LY in this country unless one of the goals of the Obama administration is to shut these whiners the phk up. (And I do believe he will.)

I wonder how long it's going to take the right-wingers to wake up and realize he's going to be a president worth getting behind.

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. You'll get the last laugh...and it will last eight years at least

:thumbsup:

[MorningGlow]

34. I like that thought

Eight years of intelligent leadership....Mmmmm.... :9

[firedupdem]

19. Some people are beyond reach...they watch faux yelling crazy

shit and they think that's the way to get their point across. I feel bad for you.

[MorningGlow]

35. That's exactly what she did

And she watches Faux ALL. DAY. LONG. That is, when she's not listening to Rush or Glenn Beck on the radio.
:puke:

[and-justice-for-all]

25. If not putting his hand over his heart was true...

it would still be the least of my concerns, if even a concern at all. I can think of a milion other things that are a million times more important. So, where is McCrypts flag lapel pin?? I have not seen it for a long time, how unAmerican...:eyes:

How simple minded can you get? "ALL the TERRORISTS he's LIVED with." What the hell is that about?

When yyou can not get a word in edge wise, that is when you say "Shut the fuck up and let me explain!" Yeah, the brain dead and the Fucked news addicts do avoid confrontation, because they always lose. They know they are wrong and are unwilling to concede to truth and fact.

[MorningGlow]

28. That's what *I* said

When my cousin said all that shit about the pledge and the flag pin, I said, "That's pandering to the lowest-common denominator kind of fear. Is that really the biggest issue we should be thinking about in this election? I mean, if I don't wear red, white, and blue on the Fourth of July, that doesn't mean I hate America." She responded, "Yes, but this is about the person who's going to hold the highest office in the country."

...I'm not even sure what that MEANS. If anything.

As for my aunt who walked away, I could tell she was afraid of hearing any dissenting opinion. Their bubble of delusion is so fragile, they're terrified of hearing anything that might pop it.

[and-justice-for-all]

36. "Yes, but this is about the person who's going to hold the highest office in the country."

and what does that have to do with the current topic of discussion?? ZERO.

I do not even say the pledge, if they changed it back to its original context I would, but they fucked it up back in the day. I fined the 4th of July to be a glorification of War, something I do not like at all, so I do not celebrate it myself, That does not mean I do not love America. I am fond of many of Americas attributes and opportunities, but I am also willing to dissent it.

They do live in a fragile world of delusion where they do not have to face reality.

[dbmk]

56. Well, he did not put his hand over his heart

Because he was told to do ir differently by his grandfather.
And if she wants to argue that a guy who served in Pattons army taught him wrong...

Its the "refusing" part that is a lie and tells you where people get their facts.

[treestar]

26. Aww, hang in there

You are going to get the last laugh.

It is so like right wingers to talk over someone and refuse to listen. Hannity does it, O'Lielly does it - they just can't deal with the opposing arguments, because on some level they know they are logical and emotionally don't want them to be true, so they try denial.

:toast:

[MorningGlow]

40. She has truly learned from Faux

It's disturbing, how contagious that behavior is.

Thanks for the :toast:. I sure wish I had some adult beverages in the house right now....

[Jennicut]

27. Take it from one who has two Repub parents, don't get into it with them.

Stay away from politics, its always better to just not discuss it unless you want a huge fight on your hands. We all get overly emotional when we discuss politics, both sides. I prefer to just say we agree to disagree though I showed my parents the Gallup LV poll results today and they were depressed. I did not rub it in and said we will find out what happens election night and we all must stand behind Obama if elected as he will need our help.

[MorningGlow]

47. My mom tried to shut it down (she's the politics cop in the family...and for Obama)

But it was like a runaway train this time.

It was good of you to take the high road like that. I wouldn't have been so polite--I was so pissed off.

[WeDidIt]

30. I've not spoken to my oiwn father in more than a decade over this sort of shit

I won't hesitate to break with anybody over politics, no matter how close.

[MorningGlow]

50. I try to maintain peace by omission--just not discussing politics at all

My aunt is like a second mom to me and has only gone insane over the past couple of decades. Mr. MG can't figure out why I'm still speaking to her, but I remember when she was normal. It's pretty sad, really.

[Tennessee Gal]

31. I learned my lesson.

A few years ago on Christmas day I got into it with my nephew (the one right winger in the family) about Bush. It got so heated I had to leave and drive around for a while. Never again.

[JeffR]

37. Don't worry. In just over 48 hours, they will be the ones outnumbered

which is when it's going to really matter.

[MikeNearMcChord]

38. Wait a couple days then do some serious Jim Rome Smack Talk

Get some Obama shirts and where them at various gatherings, ruuuuuubbb it in.:smoke:

[TexasLady]

43. Coming from a politically stupid family myself...

:hug:

[MorningGlow]

52. Exactly. "It's the stupidity, stupid"

Thanks for the :hug:. Back atcha, TL. :hug:

[ACTION BASTARD]

44. I have one cross humping mouth-breather that I shut down last week

after he accused O of being a muslim, I accused him of hating blacks. He shut up and let it go. I dislike going there, but I don't want to hear freeper speak when I'm with the family.

[Kajsa]

45. Sounds like one of my family members,

so I know what that feels like,
I feels like hell!

:hug:

[RBInMaine]

46. No point in arguing with pinhead RePukes. Just call them STUPID ASSHOLES and move on.

[blue_onyx]

54. I'm happy my family doesn't really go into politics much

Most of my family are independents and don't go crazy about politics. The family that I've talked to are all going for Obama. There's one person from Indiana who is "undecided" (I think he'll probably go McCain). The only family member who goes a little crazy politically is a great aunt who I don't see much anymore. She liked Bush because he "respected life." She HATES Hillary and our Governor (Granholm)...and likely Obama too. She is just goes on and on and doesn't let anyone get a word in otherwise. I usually leave the room because I know she isn't going to have a conversation but rather a rant. I don't get why some people just can't have a calm conservation, without the "he's a terrorist" kind of stuff.

[walldude]

57. Yep that's what they do.. They have 2 choices when confronted

the first is to do what your aunt did. The other is to lose the debate and have to admit that they are voting for McCain because all they care about is themselves and/or their bank account. Most of them would rather walk away than have to admit they are voting for McCain because they are selfish and greedy.