Damn!! NATIONAL POLLS do not matter.....the state ones DO and are getting closer.....

[Vote2008]

PA, OH, MO, NC, NV are getting closer!

THOSE are the states that matter!

If you can work them tomorrow and Tuesday please do!

If you can make calls to those states please do!

Damn, I don't give a crap if the national polls show us up 15 points. Only the electoral votes matter!

Why the national polls talk???

[AllieB]

1. If you're going by the Mason-Dixon Poll, it's notoriously unreliable.

Take a deep breath and go here:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

[EastTennesseeDem]

Mason-Dixon is to polls as Fredo is to the Corleone family

[thesubstanceofdreams]

2. Chill down

PA may be closer but ALL polls have Obama at least 4 points up. Obama is going to win PA.
Obama doesn't need any of the other states you mention, but anyway he's likely to carry most of them (my guess is all of them minus MO).

[Tarheel_Dem]

3. Why the hell does it bother you so much? This is the third thread

in a 48 hr period that you've started on this topic. What is your problem? And what are we supposed to do about "tightening" state polls? Cut it out!

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. The OP is rthe worst kind of Worry Brigade Member

The one who spreads the fear and cowardice to the other people in the fight.

Ignore, or fear being assimilated into the Dumb Posse.

[KansasVoter]

23. I think the OP is saying that we need to work the close states!!

Can you read??

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. I can read the freak out from here

:eyes:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. PLEASE

Review your presidential electoral history... If a candidate won the popular vote by doublk digits he always won an Electoral College landslide...


That doesn't mean people should become relaxed but a fact's a fact...

[KansasVoter]

5. People here love NATIONAL POLLS. I don't know why! They do not matter at all!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Of Course They Do -See Four...

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[Drunken Irishman]

6. Actually, Obama has expanded his lead in all those states according to Mason-Dixon.

So that would be the reverse of getting closer, no?

[fed_up_mother]

7. State polls are tightening, but remember, they have to win more "toss up" states than we do.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Tightening must always be put in conbtetx: is Obama's number eroding???

If not, then the so-called "tightening" doesn't matter a whole lot. You need a fucking majority to win, you know?

[RL3AO]

14. Not more...all.

[Thrill]

8. If he's up 11 nationally. The Battlegrounds aren't close

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Thank You

CBS and Gallup were polling people today...Those Mason Dixon polls are already four days old...

[tigereye]

10. things always tighten somewhat right before an election

but most folks made up their minds weeks or months ago....

[azmouse]

15. aahhhhhhh....

[fujiyama]

16. Actually they both do matter

States don't usually vote independently of each other. Usually there are particular trends. If certain demographics shift in one state, they shift accordingly in others.

Yes, the polls in the states you mentioned have tightened, but Obama's numbers have for the most part remained steady. If Obama maintains a strong national lead going into this, he will likely keep PA, take NV, OH, etc.

Now, that said I hope that those who live in those states can take the day off. Complacency doesn't help, but honestly I don't think there are any Obama supporters that are getting complacent in the least. The ground game in the states you mentioned will be out in full force.

[iceman66]

17. State polls tend to lag behind the national polls

and, based on the national polls, the trend favors Obama.

I'm worried more about the "Diebold Effect" and voter suppression in the swing states than any poll numbers.

[Thrill]

18. Also the Mason Dixon Polls were all taken before the 30 min ad. ALSO

they all show an Obama surge from their previous polls. Again what is with the worry? Just GOTV

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

19. The Mason Dixon polls are actually no closer compared to their own prior polls.

They've always been close, some of them are actually increasing for Obama.

It's just that they are close in comparison to the polls from other firms. You can't gauge a trend that way.

[FloridaGrl]

20. Give us a sample of the polls you are taking about

because the average polling show Obama with a comfortable lead in the EVS. Now why do you think most pundits who are in this tightening frenzy still Obama over 270 EVs? Look these final election predictions and show me one that has McCain winning.

[KansasVoter]

25. I agree we are winning. But the winning margin has dropped in most estimates the last three days!

[FloridaGrl]

28. With 2 days to go Obama still has a comfortable lead

in EVS. The election is this tuesday not next week. There isn't enough polling time for the numbers to fall much lower is it? I think we need to do what we can to help and just chill out. It's looking great for our guy.

[KansasVoter]

30. I agree. And am 99% sure we will win. But I can understand the concern from some people!

[CADEMOCRAT7]

21. Obama is gaining in the polls, wait till you see tomorrow.

You will see the bump from his infomercial.

[GoesTo11]

22. No polls matter except the real one on Tuesday.

[Dawgs]

24. Wow!! That is a really ignorant statement.

National polls mean quite a bit.

Look here--> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7708623&mesg_id=7708623

[grantcart]

26. What a pain in the ass if your going to play this game why don't you talk about

GA NC AZ ND MT have all shown McCain's support collapsing

[DCBob]

29. Why are so quick to dismiss great news from the national polls?

Those state polls you are concerned about are from one polling firm that leans right. And even those polls show an Obama increase from their previous polls. Of course we should not take anything for granted but it is looking very very good for Obama.

[yellowcanine]

31. Your concern is noted, And just for the record, the WP had both national and

state polls this morning and they all point to the same thing. Landslide in EV and landslide in popular vote - but MORE of a landslide in EV.