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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:07 AM
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ohio always fails
i've always called it the twilight zone state. i just don't understand the people out there
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:07 AM
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1. uhoh. INCOMMMINGGGG!!
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 12:08 AM by PretzelWarrior
:popcorn:
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:11 AM
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10. Jump to the far left,
just before it hits. You'll be fine, and so will we all.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:08 AM
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2. They hate us for our Freedom !
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:08 AM
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3. Um--he hasn't lost it yet.
You might have lost it, but he hasn't.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:09 AM
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4. Maybe if you moved out of your mom's basement...
so she and I can have some quality time....you know....
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:13 AM
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11. Oh, no, no, no, no.
me first. take a number.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:17 AM
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17. Cool. I like sloppy seconds.
:rofl:
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:19 AM
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19. No, me...me! I'm a plumber!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:21 AM
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21. Yo!!! Plumbers RULE!!!
:rofl:


Fuck,this is fun!!!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:09 AM
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5. What the fu-- Oh, Woodbridge, NJ.
dumbass
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:10 AM
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6. I think your concern is misplaced.
Obama has the most amazing organization on the ground there...

And many people are seeing that they have voted against their own best interests...

Not this time.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:10 AM
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7. In 2006, they elected a Democratic Senator (Sherrod Brown) and a Democratic Secretary of State
(Jennifer Brunner).
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:55 AM
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50. and Governor! Ted Strickland
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:11 AM
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8. repukes have stolen it the last couple of election cycles
if the repuke scum try it this year, i hope they get their greasy, slimy hand cut off.

welcome to DU.....and always remember: freeptards are human garbage.

that is all.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:15 AM
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14. DEMS ARE IN CHARGE THIS YEAR!
oh yeah!! whoop! whoop!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:11 AM
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9. Uggggggggghhh
:eyes:

Thanks for your wisdom and insight. Very helpful. You're swell.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:22 AM
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23. Hey, Jen!! Howareya???
:hi:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:26 AM
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27. Exhausted! TWO DAYS!
And really worn out over the Ohio-bashing threads, but thanks to all the DUers who are defending our efforts!!!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:30 AM
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30. I believe in Ohio.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:39 AM
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33. Thank you! Send Good Vibes!!!!!
Seriously... direct all good karma and intentions toward Ohio and Pennsylvania on Tuesday! Every little bit helps! :-)
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:14 AM
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12. I swayed my SIL in Ohio to vote Obama today!
She was on the fence... I called her today and persuaded her to vote Obama! She lives in Ohio!
So much BS about him being a Muslim! She listens to Faux Noise unfortunately! What can I say... she lives over 1,000 miles away from me... yet it made me feel good to enlighten her to the real truth!
CR
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:14 AM
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13. Could you perhaps.....
Elaborate, a little?

Give us a clue? Or was the clue store closed when you posted?

Hmmmm?
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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:43 AM
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36. this was actually supposed to be a reply to another post
i meant to reply to the PPP Ohio: Obama 50 McCain 48 thread. how did i confuse post and reply? i dunno i'm from jersey
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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:16 AM
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15. hey i'm not knocking the good ohio people on this site
i just have little faith in the other people in this state who keep banging their heads against the wall in every presidential election
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:17 AM
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16. I beg your pardon? In the immortal words of my daughter, "So, what's your point, dad?"
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 12:18 AM by The Village Idiot
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:19 AM
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18. Take solace that Ohio is home of the flag of the potentate!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:19 AM
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20. Please direct your criticism toward the SOS and corrupt voting system there,
and not so much the people. Believe it or not, state borders are political, virtual, not real, and there are idiots and geniuses, nice folks and evil folks, in every state.

So just as it's very unfair to put down people from NJ as backward and unsophisticated, so is it wrong and unkind to characterize Ohians.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:22 AM
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22. Very clean riposte. n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:25 AM
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24. Our Secretary of State is a Democrat, Jennifer Brunner.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 12:30 AM by VolcanoJen
We booted Ken Blackwell in 2006, when he went for the brass ring and got whalloped in the gubernatorial by Ted Stickland, by a margin of TWENTY-FOUR POINTS.

I do so wish DUers, an informed bunch of people, could get their recent Ohio history straight. We are, after all, pretty electorally important if nothing else to people. So much has changed since 2004 and honestly the comparison is apples/oranges.

Thanks for defending us, though, NYC_SKP. You should feel even better that Jennifer Brunner is in charge now, she's increased the number of machines per precinct, instituted mandatory and detailed training for all poll workers statewide, defended voters against numerous and frivolous vote suppression lawsuits from the GOP over the last few weeks, and pushed for Early Vote more than anyone in the state. She's done absolutely everything we asked of her when we cast our ballots in 2006.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:05 AM
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40. Thanks, Jen.
I'm glad we've got the right person in that office. The voting systems in so many states need improvement, it's really an embarrassment for our country and a disgrace to our democracy.

:toast:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:54 AM
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41. She did two other things too.
1. Made Cuyahoga County a paper-ballot voting location by dumping our crappy voting machines.

2. Required every voting location in the state to have paper ballots for those who wish to vote on paper. Know what else that means? It no longer matters if there aren't enough machines or if machines break down...people can still vote on paper and don't have to wait in long lines.

All of this has been mentioned a brazillion times on DU, yet some still stand ready to call us a horrible backwards state with a horrible backwards voting system.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:45 AM
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46. We now
have a Democratic SOS. I believe that all of the votes will be counted correctly. Ohioans also have the option of voting on a paper ballot, which I did. We didn't have that option before.
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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:25 AM
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25. sheesh lighten up guys
i'm not here to insult the people of ohio. forgive me for being cynical but i really do hope i'm proven wrong this time around
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:27 AM
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28. "Ohio always fails"
"But I'm not here to insult the people of Ohio."

Then don't insult the people of Ohio. You don't know what you're talking about to begin with, but trust me, we here in Ohio aren't much in the mood to lighten up until, say, November 5th.
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lancer78 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:25 AM
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26. It doesn't matter anyways
n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:29 AM
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29. We really don't understand New Jersey either...
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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:33 AM
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31. We can get it this time
"In 2006, they elected a Democratic Senator (Sherrod Brown) and a Democratic Secretary of State"

If Ohio can elect a White man with a Black name (Sherrod Brown sounds like a basketball players name), they surely can elect a Black man with a funny name.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:49 AM
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39. As a Toledoan by birth, I'll second voice that!
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 12:49 AM by The Village Idiot
And WELCOME to DU!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:56 AM
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42. Funny you should say that.
Rush Limbaugh once actually claimed on the air that Sherrod Brown was of color. Funny what names will make people assume.
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BoMonster Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:35 AM
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32. Not this time
I really feel that Ohio is going blue this time around.

Not only did we put in Sherrod Brown and Jennifer Bruenner in '06 but we also put in our great Governor Strickland. Ohioans are starting to see what the Democrats can do for them. Strickland has turned around the way this state operates and has gotten a lot of props for it. People notice that.

I know there are a lot of people here that would never vote for Barack for one reason or another but this time we will deliver Ohio. The rally at the statehouse today was amazing; so many people, so much positive energy. To see the diversity in the masses of people and to see them all getting along and sharing stories is a thing of beauty.

Combine the energy and inspiration that Barack has brought with the fact that our Sec of State is all about fair elections and I see a blue Ohio. I even feel this way being the only one in my family not voting for McFailin. I'll just enjoy laughing and pointing at them at Thanksgiving, Obama button and all. :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:42 AM
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35. Welcome to DU!
Your positive attitude and energy is wonderful!

:hi:
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BoMonster Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:47 AM
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38. Thanks
Thanks Peggy,

I've actually been reading DU since '04. I'm just more of a reader than a 'poster'. :)

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:46 AM
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37. Thank you. Power to the People!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:39 AM
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34. You fail.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:00 AM
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43. We could stand touching noses for a week at a time...
and we'll never see eye-to-eye.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:07 AM
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44. Really. And the last time you were here was...?
Educate yourself about the current political reality of my state, and realize this:

There has never been a Republican that lost Ohio and won the presidency. No other state in the Union represents a cross section of the electorate as well as Ohio does, and that is why so much time, effort, and treasure is spent here by both parties to win the vote.

Ohio will be blue.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:15 AM
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45. I'll enjoy kicking this back up on Tuesday evening
if I haven't had pizza yet
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:49 AM
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47. Me, either. Sounds to me like they're always conflicted. nt
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:52 AM
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48. MMMMMM!!!
I LOVE the smell of Pizza in the morning!
:evilgrin:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:54 AM
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49. Ohio is made of WIN this year. n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:00 AM
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51. A BIG F-U from an Ohioan! BTW it was us Ohioans who were out in the streets after '04
demanding a revote. It was us Ohioans who funded our own investigation, bringing John Conyers and the House Judiciary to the state to hold hearings about the fixed election. It was us Ohioans who attempted to prevent the seating of the Ohio electorate. Our investigations and loud voices lead many in this country to now realize we have a faux president, thanks to dirty tricks suppression, disenfranchisement and of course rigged voting machines.

So if you want to blame someone for allowing * to happen, blame someone else including yourself.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:05 AM
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52. IN is the state that makes no sense!
In the rust belt, they should be blue but always go RepubliCon and in a big way.

Almost as messed up as their time zones!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:06 AM
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53. Ohio lost its right to matter..it's insignificant this year..n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:10 AM
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54. LIAF
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AZSlacker Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:11 AM
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55. mainly because half the people I was with belived it until I explained the situation to them
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