Mike Barnacle is a JERK: Says Obama will disappoint the NUTS on the left.

[ROh70]

Just heard this on Morning Joe. They're talking about how Obama will be a centrist president, and that the people who will be mad at Obama won't be conservatives, but the "nuts on the left" who will be angry at Obama for not imposing his socialist, big government, angry liberal redistributive agenda on America.

Barnacle is the epitome of the grumpy old man who's been living in his own warped reality for the past 5 decades. Who is he referring to when he talks about the nuts on the left? Liberal bloggers? Daily Kos? Democratic Underground?

[Ozma]

1. Barnicle is a political media whore who will do anything and say anything for $

Don't listen to these whores!

Turn it off and just savor the moment.

[creature of habit]

20. a Whitey Bulger apologist

Barnicle defended him. said Whitey was good for South Boston - "kept drugs from coming into the neighborhood" when in reality Bulger was a drug kingpin.

[deadmessengers]

2. Wonder who he plagiarised that from?

Mike's not known for being awfully picky about originality, you know...

[Buzz Clik]

10. Bill Kristol stated this quite clearly already (Daily Show).

Rachel Maddow has indicated her concern about how far to the left Obama leans.

So, you are correct. Mike is simply stealing others' ideas.

[marmar]

3. Barnacle.....What an appropriate surname for him.

n/t

[KamaAina]

48. It's spelled "Barnicle", with an 'i'

but I have a feeling the OP might have known that... :evilgrin:

[IndianaJones]

4. he'll really piss off the nuts on the right and the left. nothing wrong with that. nt.

[Buzz Clik]

5. The general feeling is that Obama will be just a hair more liberal than Clinton.

With the strong Dem Congress, he'd likely get a lot done on the Dem agenda.

[Jennicut]

7. Yup, I always thought that Obama will be just a bit more liberal then Clinton

[Jennicut]

6. Uh, we all know Obama is not a socialist or a big government lover, that is why we voted for him

in the primaries, or at least why I did. I preferred his pragmatic approach to things. He is less moderate then Bill Clinton but not this lefty socialist these idiots have made him out to be. Duh.

[Avalux]

8. Please don't watch that show. BAD for your blood pressure.

It's an all-out push for McCain and I will only watch after Obama wins. To see their reactions.

[sui generis]

9. well, I don't know about his tirade BUT

it is a possibility to consider.

Nevertheless it's not enough reason to vote for McCain, who is essentially a lame duck in a supermajority democratic administration if he gets selected by some miracle.

So, sticks and stone. Oh and one other thing. Ask Barnacle why he isn't using his magickal crystal ball to win the lottery if it works so well for other wild-ass guesses . . .

[chelsea0011]

11. The same was said about Clinton and dems loved him.

[groovedaddy]

12. I've been extremely dissappointed for the last 8 years. Obama is one person,

admittedly, he's about to become the most powerful person in our country, but movements, though ably lead, always have to come from the grassroots. Obama knows this from his community organizing experience and it's why he calls on people to participate.
We will also have a friendly Congress. Obama and Congress will need to hear from us often on a number of issues. I firmly believe they will be far more responsive than the republicans have been.

[treestar]

25. Exactly, he will listen

And be leader of us all. We've had enough of the republicans and their authoritarian, exclusionary BS.

[baldguy]

13. He's right; anyone who thinks Obama is a radical leftist will be disappointed.

He's a moderate conservative in the tradition of Bill Clinton & Dwight Eisenhower.

However, the ONLY people who have characterized him as "the most liberal Senator ever" are the nuts on the RIGHT.

[Richardo]

14. He *will* disappoint some - I predict that a year from now some will be calling him the new Pelosi

Bank it.

He's a pragmatic politician and will include Republicans as much as he can (as much as THEY allow). Look for political accommodations in the name of unity, and much wailing and gnashing of teeth from many lefties.

[ROh70]

18. Sure, but it's this false equivalency between wingnuts and the left.

There truly are NUTS on the right - they are the ones who call Obama a terrorist, anti-American, and Muslim. There is a nut who's on the Republican presidential ticket!

There are no equivalent NUTS on the left. Sure, you have your more vociferous and ideologically minded lefties. But, they are not like the fringe lunatic on the right.

[ROh70]

22. But who actually thinks Obama is a radical leftist??? On the left, anyway.

The only ones who think Obama is a radical leftist are wingnuts and Peggy Noonan.

[Phillycat]

40. Oh, yes.

I agree completely. I don't expect the DU love for Obama to last much past February. Heh. :D

[Richardo]

44. !!

:hi:

:pals:

:loveya:

[Phillycat]

54. ..

:hug: :loveya:

[Claire Beth]

15. I didn't hear Barnicle this morning BUT...

what you posted that he said is absolutely correct. I, myself would be considered a "nut" lefty. I am an aethiest, I am pro-gay marriage (even though I am not gay), I am big on Pro-choice (and I'm sure there are other examples of what MOST middle of the road folks call "nuts" on the left)... I'm not going to get pissed about Obama being in the middle because I understand he will have to be a centrist President or he will end up like Dumbya, who shifted everything too far to the RIGHT nuts!

I'm sure that's what Barnicle meant. I do know Barnicle is a Democrat who voted (or will) for Obama.

[ROh70]

19. Actually, Barnacle is assuming Obama will win. He talked about a June surprise for nuts on the left

who will presumably be disappointed in Obama for failing to pass a socialist big government agenda in the first 100 days.

[krawhitham]

16. I think he will

He will do what is best for America not what is best for the liberal's in America

Which will make him a good President

[styersc]

27. I absolutely agree that Obama will govern as a centrist and will

piss of the left through the years. It began with alienating many GLBT activists during the primary, then there was his turn around on public funding for campaigns, FISA, hard deadlines in Iraq etc. He is a shrewd politician and for that reason he will build popularity and support from the center out.

[elkston]

29. You actually care that he rejected public financing? He did that so he could WIN.

Or did you not want him to win? Definitely sound like a Republican with that objection.

[styersc]

34. I sound like a REPUBLICAN!!!!!

You state that Obama turned his back on a fundamental progressive principle, one in which he swore an allegiance, to win the election and I SOUND LIKE A REPUBLICAN!!!!

So you assume that it was Obama's money and not message that is going to win this election. And I'm supposed to sound like the Republican.

You're a horse's arse.

[elkston]

47. No. Its just that people were always complaining that he was too nice ...

and wouldn't be tough enough. And this move to reject public financing demonstrated that he was willing to play tough politics so WE could WIN in the end. He knew that because he was going to stay positive and only attack ON THE ISSUES, that public financing would sell him short. He needed as much money as possible in order to overwhelm the Republicans with ground game and public appearances.

We funded (for the most part) Obama's campaign and we should be proud.

And the whole "he promised to take public financing" line is a Republican talking point. He never made a hard promise, he simply said he was willing to DISCUSS the possibility.

The primaries have BEEN over, G. Tommorow is the real deal.

[styersc]

52. Brother I just returned from a trip to SC Headquarters where I ...

loaded up with signs and pins (paid for them) to distribute as I do neighborhood canvassing. The place is too full of infectuous love to argue with someone on the same side.

We'll let our grandkids debate the nuances but for now, lets keep our eye on the prize and our friends on our side.

peace

[elkston]

53. You're right. I have nothing to say really.

I am too wound up at the moment, and you are handling this like an adult.

Accept my apologies.

[Sebastian Doyle]

51. PUMA powir !!11!!1

Like ROAR or some junk!!!1!!!!!!1

[stillcool]

17. What's wrong with that?

Obama is certain to piss a lot of people off. As far as which nuts he's referring to, I think you ought to ask him.

[slampoet]

21. Mike Barnicle Who Was Fired By the BOSTON GLOBE FOR MAKING UP STORIES ????????

[butterfly77]

23. They are:

D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E now in these last hours.

[southernyankeebelle]

24. Mika and Michael

I realize they have to kiss the ass of the person that is bring them to the party (Joe). He won't have guests that stray to far from him. Some of Mikey's thinking is a little off track. Mika well just plain given in the Joe even though she supports Obama I think.

[SmokingJacket]

26. It's true OB will be more centrist than the Repubs have painted him.

And those of us on the left *always* push for more liberal policies.

But after the last 8 years, anything to the left of McPain/Failin will be a glorious pleasure to me...

And there's always a chance that Obama is not as centrist as he has been campaigning...

[stray cat]

28. Of course he will - Kucinich is not getting elected

If he governs responsibly and competently and is reasonably moderate or moderate left I have no problem with that. However, the far left will be disappointed I suspect. He is not a green party candidate.

[LittleApple81]

38. I wanted Kucinich.... so badly. But I realize America was not ready for him. What a waste of a

wonderful candidate and great human being. Love Kucinich!

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

30. Barnicale is a FRAUD

He also is a plagarist and a shameless media whore.

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

31. Barnicale is a FRAUD

He also is a plagarist and a shameless media whore.

[grantcart]

32. Mike Barnacle, oh you mean the Turdicle

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7694056

[TragedyandHope]

33. Yeah, that was an idiotic statement.

If anything, he'll shock the Right-Wingnuts with his thoughtful, steady, pragmatic, bipartisan, moderate centrism. That is, if they can ever manage to scrape the slime out of their eyes.

If they're not happy with the way Obama runs the country, then I challenge every one of them to return their Obama tax breaks in protest.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

35. I thnik he was referring to me. If that ends up being the case,

I'd rather be dispointed by Obama than driven to insanity by McClown or even worse What'sHerName.

[LaydeeBug]

36. that seems much better than W appeasing the NUTS on the right for eight years. nt

[onetwo]

37. That sounds like an endorsement to me. A pragmatic centrist will actually be able to get things done

[JimGinPA]

39. I Bet Barnacle Plagarized That Too

Fuck him!

[Tennessee Gal]

41. I see nothing wrong with that.

There are "nuts" on the left just as there are on the right. Obama knows that he needs to bring us all together. He can't do that by appealing to the far left.

[Johonny]

43. I agree

[Renew Deal]

42. Who's agenda did Barnacle say that was?

Was it Obama's of the lefts? That doesn't make sense as written.

The "left" knows Obama is a middle grounder. It's the delusional people on the right that are in for a shock.

[ROh70]

49. Barnacle thinks lefties are under the delusion that Obama is a socialist-radical.

Barnacle and the MSM have bought into this myth that Obama is a flaming lefty-pinko communist and the left believe that he's been playing a centrist for the general election but will reveal his truly communist self after the election.

[Cha]

45. Fuck you barnacle..

Obama is here to bring the country together in spite of divisive shits like you.

[Hawkowl]

46. Obama will be forced left

Barnicle, Kristol are all dreaming but don't understand that this president will be forced left by events. He has no choice if he is to solve these generational problems. Not to mention, it is natural for societies to shift the opposite direction every 30 or 40 years. It is time.

He will be forced left be events. He will be the most progressive president since FDR. He will be forced to be. The economy is in the beginning, BEGINNING! of a fantastic meltdown. The only thing that is going to save it are massive government intervention and regulation programs that control greed and put people back to work. If he tries Bill Clinton's free trade, deregulation crap, he will simply be throwing gasoline on the fire. The type of recession we are entering now used to be quite common-- in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They were called panics and for good reason. They could last 3-10 YEARS. The new deal legislation and overhauling the Fed largely put a stop to these wild gyrations. Shrub destroyed this system. Absolutely obliterated it along with Greenspan. Obama is going to have to return to FDR's policies and then some for the 21st century.

Health care is another area where Obama will be forced to the left, by business! Businesses can't compete with the rest of the world paying extortionist health care rates that don't cover jack shit. Single payer, tightly controlled government run health care will be needed simply to stabilize the business environment.

Finally Obama will be forced left in terms of the environment. He is going to have to tackle the number one menace to the environment, foreign policy, and the economy--BIG OIL. No way we convert to a green economy and have peace in the world until we have lifted the foot of BIG OIL off our necks. There is no more a free market for oil than Santa Claus delivering easter eggs. It is a rapacious, ruthless, murderous cartel that controls prices almost absolutely. The rest of the world has nationalized oil companies. I don't have a clue as to what Obama will do, but I hope he does.

[kenny blankenship]

50. I LOVE it. They can't STOP him. So now they act like The Authority on what he stands for

and what his win will mean. Even in defeat they think they can tell people how it's gonna be.
"The Left will be betrayed by Obama" Like the Left buys McPailin's bullshit about Obama being a left-liberal-Marxist-Socialist-Communist. As if.
As if Obama's win will be somehow a win for shitbags like Barnicle. Just like Newt, just like Rove, just like Goebbels and Baghdad Bob - no matter what is happening claim it's victory and vindication for your side.

So fucking predictable.