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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:34 AM
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what is this "tape" Palin is referring to? About Obama saying he
will "bankrupt the coal industry"?????? Another Republican "misundermation" ??
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:35 AM
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1. Oh lordy, not another "secret tape"
Does Obama say "whitey" in this one?
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leftist. Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:38 AM
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9. Thanks, I needed that laugh :P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:35 AM
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2. i heard something that fact checked it is a complete lie. they arent even missing around
cozying into the nontruth. just and extreme lie to what obama said.

dont know anything else about it
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:35 AM
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3. Actually, Obama is IN FAVOR of coal...his state is a big coal area
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 09:36 AM by Atman
It's comical how misinformed these people are. Or how cynical, not misinformed, and deliberately manipulating people through outright lies.

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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:37 AM
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that's what I thought!!! WTF: Then she is just throwing everything
out there, hoping some of it will "stick"..............

Geez!
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:35 AM
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4. Oh puh-leez, Sarah.
Like such a tape exists, with Obama saying something like this - - - and it's just now surfacing?! The day before election today?!

Yeahyeahsuresure...
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:36 AM
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5. Bankruptcies the whole coal industry is what she said...
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 09:36 AM by WCGreen
I sure that Obama was talking about if clean coal was introduced w/o federal assistant it would bankrupt the whole industry...

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:54 AM
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19. Isn't "clean coal" dependent on the power companies, not the coal
companies? Coal is coal, and there is no such thing as "clean coal". There is only technology which allows those who use it to vastly reduce emissions.

So it would be the power companies bankrupting the coal companies if they refuse to modernize, not the government.

Or am i misunderstanding the whole argument?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:36 AM
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6. What's with all the tapes all of a sudden? Why didn't they roll out these tapes
over the summer? Is there some sort of secret cache they just discovered?
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:37 AM
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7. Yes, the quote is from a radio interview in Jan 08 about clean fuels
Where Obama said people who choose freely to build coal power plants will have to pay a carbon tax which would mean that the power plant would go "bankrupt" if they don't use clean technology.

It's a cut and paste clip from the interview, so we are not sure what the full context of what he said is... (they only give you half the quote)

It's all scare techniques...manufactured mistruths
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:37 AM
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8. If sarah said it, it must be a lie.
She makes it up as she goes.

I can't wait until tomorrow night. :evilgrin:
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:38 AM
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10. I think that is the rule....by the way where's her medical records???
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:39 AM
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11. another Sarah Lie: "your electric bills will go up"
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:39 AM
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12. I LOVE all of the tapes that the Republican's have..
but that no one has ever seen... the "Whitey" tape... the "PLO" tape... the "Coal" tape... :eyes:

I just can't believe there is that tape out there with McCain and 3 other male senators swimming nakked in a pool and then cuddling in the hot tub later. It's AMAZING.

Ohh.. you haven't seen it? Well, it totally exists.. really it does. It's going to roll out tomorrrow morning around 5am right before voters head to the polls.. and then no one will vote for him.

Or, perhaps i'm totally full of shit. Like all of the republicans who are saying the same exact thing.. but are actually serious. IDIOTS!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:41 AM
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13. This is what she is referring to
They took an excerpt from an interview:
"I was the first to call for a 100 percent auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter," Obama continued. "That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

"So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."




There's a link to the video in the following link but I haven't listened to it.

I would assume that this is something that they've taken out of context.


http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-coal-official-calls-obama-comments-unbelievable
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:43 AM
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14. Exactly right! Taken out of context and snipped ..
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:48 AM
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16. They are pitiful and desperate
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:47 AM
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15. Sarah is trying very very hard to campaign her way into irrelevancy
with every lie filled sentence she breathlessly screeches to her adoring fans, she becomes less and less attractive to the electorate. thankfully, her base will be chomping at the bit to elect her in 2012 which will ensure another Obama landslide victory.

Seriously, Sarah Palin was the best pick McHate could have made from our perspective.

Thank you, Little Johnny!
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:48 AM
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17. Could these links explain a bit about what she is harping on?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:50 AM
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18. Let me guess:
Is this the super secret "I'm a muslin baby killing communist who will bankrupt coal because it's run by whiteys who were born on American soil unlike me because I'm the antichrist and Bill Ayers wrote my book so suck on it Jesus!" tape?

:rofl:
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:35 AM
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20. A tape that has been publically available since January
Quoted out of context.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:38 AM
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21. D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 11:40 AM by mtnester
fake story fake issue


and I cannot spell worth a poop today (edit obviously for spelling error)
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