It is pure, unadulterated panic here at work.

[reflection]

(A little background to jog memories or fill in blanks: I posted here a few weeks ago - my RW boss indicated to me that because of my support for Obama, I would likely be the first one gone if we experienced a downturn - I told him politely to do what he had to do, you can search for the thread if you want, I'm not going to pimp it)

Update: Everyone here has resigned themselves to a blowout Obama victory. Whether or not it happens, that's the mindset here. We just had our weekly staff meeting. After the work had been squared away, a couple of the rank and file brought up the election. Like I tend to do anyway, I just sat quietly, nursed my hot coffee, and listened to everyone panic. I am utterly amazed at the willful ignorance that some of these people exhibit. They *really* think Obama is a manchurian candidate who is hell-bent on destroying our economy. Of course they are utterly oblivious to the fact that 1) we already have someone at the helm of this country doing that, and 2) it's really not in Obama's best interest to collapse the American economy.

I tell you, I have never seen such mental disconnect in my life. Unless you are a one-issue voter, (e.g. abortion) how can anyone objectively look at the two candidates and want McCain in office?

Regardless, Wednesday morning will be very unpleasant for someone in this office. I think it will be them. I almost feel sorry for these people. They will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into this bright new future. I just hope no one freaks out too bad before they figure out it's going to be ok.

If these people represent a microcosm of what's going on around this country, we are in for a very tense post-election period. I for one am going to continue to try to exhibit a calm, instructive demeanor and see if we can keep this thing from blowing up, instead of rubbing everyone's nose in it like I really want to. :)

[Lint Head]

1. Sounds like your boss is threatening you.

:dem:

[roguevalley]

67. well, find the percentage of the electorate and throw it back in their

faces if they get snotty: so, you're smarter than 89.9% of the American people? the people have spoken. suck it. we did when Bush was 'selected'. something like that. :)

[AZBlue]

83. Yeah, that sounds like a HR situation to me!

[Bicoastal]

2. I'm sure someone already noted that if he does that you can and should sue him, right?

Re: your boss firing you for your political leaning.

[reflection]

3. Yeah, but I don't think I'd do it.

I'd just move on. He's allowed to surround himself with yes-men if he so chooses, as far as I'm concerned.

[pnwmom]

5. Technically, s/he could do that. But s/he might not choose to do so

because having a record of suing an employer isn't a boost for one's resume -- no matter how justified.

[kath]

8. Wrong - in the vast majority of states ("at will" states) your boss can fire you for ANY reason s/he

chooses, with the exception of those categories subject to anti-discrimination laws (race, sex, etc).

[treestar]

28. But there are always exceptions

A Wrongful Termination lawyer would know.

[progressivebydesign]

29. there are FEDERAL laws that protect workers from this.

You're mentioning State laws.

[grantcart]

40. any "work related reason" If he takes a reason that is not work related it is grounds for WT

[Romulox]

52. I'm not sure what you're basing that on. "At will" = can be fired for a GOOD reason, a BAD reason

or NO reason at all, subject only to state and federal anti-discrimination laws (which generally does not cover political affiliation.)

There is no limitation that a "bad" reason must be "work related"...

[joeglow3]

58. This is correct

You can fire someone because they are obese. You can fire someone because they smoke. You can fire someone because of their political beliefs. Sad, but true.

[grantcart]

70. Any time an employer deviates from their standard discipline and dismissal routine or established

procedures they would open themselves up to a work related suit that would be decided by a jury.


Now if the guy makes it a habit of firing people for a reason that has nothing to do with work and that was company policy and that was consistently the practice then he would be OK.

If however, they have a company manual, set of procedures, or an established practice of giving out warnings before hiring and then do not follow that they would open themselves to a wrongful termination lawsuit.

It really isn't a question of the quality of the reason but how they enforce their own standards, having established that standard they cannot ignore it because somebody supports a political candidate without the possibility of facing a civil action.

I never said there was a federal issue involved.

[Romulox]

86. You'll find that the "Employee handbooks as contracts" doctrine is on the wain

Employers may avoid the impression that an employee handbook forms an employment contract by the simple expedient of a disclaimer. Virtually every employee handbook therefore contains this language.

[CPschem]

4. wow, sorry about your work environment

I work in public health where 99% of my co-workers are voting Obama. Everyone I work with is disgusted by the GOP's contempt for science.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. "it's really not in Obama's best interest to collapse the American economy."- you mean, what's left?

How the FUCK can anyone look at the record of George W. Bush and not think a fucking turnip would be an improvement in the White House?!?!?!?!?!

[reflection]

12. Exactly.

You have to be incredibly obtuse or just intellectually dishonest to think otherwise.

[GreenInNC]

7. same thing here

I work for a small engineering and land surveying company. I am the only Democrat here. Can't wait until our staff meeting this afternoon.

I have kept quiet (for the most part) for the election season because living here in NC I have lost most elections through the years. But reprisals be damned, I am wearing my Obama button and t shirt on Wednesday.

[reflection]

11. Yep, I'm an engineer as well.

This field, at least in my region, is dominated by white male RW-leaning types.

[GreenInNC]

19. feel your pain

civil here.

[reflection]

21. Mechanical here.

I wish you had said you were electrical so I could bust out the old joke, "can't spell geek without a EE." :D

[LeeM]

43. I'm an Engineer too, in a very RW company

This is my First post here, but I am a longtime reader.

As a part owner of the company, I try to stay apolitical at work. One of the other officers is a RW, Rush, Sean Hannidy, etc. fan. I have put up with the wing-nut radio being on for most of the Bush era, because I believe free speech and civil discourse is how we solve problems.

I kept my act together until last Friday. The guy was spouting the typical freeper BS to some staff right outside my office. I tried to get him to tone it down, but he just kept going. I finally raised my voice (the second time in 12 years here) and went like "Enough! I am sick and tired of listening these lies! If you can't give produce proof, then STFU."

It was very quiet for the next hour. I ended up apologizing for losing it, just to keep the office politics civil.

But I am still pissed off. Wednesday morning will the best revenge.

[Pluvious]

56. Welcome to posting at DU LeeM !

Thanks for sharing your story, it's a tough balance trying
to foster a professional workplace environment and personal
emotional harmony.

We all have our breaking points !

[onager]

57. A shock for you. I'm a Field Engineer...

...for one of the biggest U.S. aerospace/defense companies.

For almost 3 years I've been based in Egypt. In the past few months we've been visited by my boss, an exec in charge of foreign work from South America to the Middle East. And his boss, a VERY high-level executive--and a woman.

In casual conversations about the elections, it came out that BOTH of them are life-long Dems.

That was encouraging!

[BamaTideFan83]

87. Is that the same thing as

an Agricultural Engineer?

[onager]

97. Well, "Field" means "dumb enough to work overseas..."

Field engineers can be "real" degreed engineers, but usually are not. e.g., I would only be an engineer if you gave me a stripey cap and a set of HO-scale trains. :-)

I guess the closest description would be "foreign-based service technician." I do all kinds of stuff, from drilling holes in the floor to run cable to maintaining servers and workstations, etc. Happily, most of the hard install work is done and the job is mostly maintaining the system now. Though I hasten to add that it is one complex mother of a system, and my job is rarely boring.

And it gives me some exposure to agriculture. Parts of my job site are leased to the local Egyptian farmers. It's not unusual to walk outside and see a big flock of sheep having lunch. I always say: "Hi, Freepers!"

[renate]

73. welcome to DU!

You must be the most patient person in the world, to put up with right-wing radio for all these years.

The neat thing about your being so mild-mannered is that when you do say something, people must really take it seriously.

I hope Wednesday is an EXTRA-good day at work for you!

[PatSeg]

75. Welcome to DU

Be sure and let us know what the atmosphere at your company is like on Wednesday.

[riqster]

31. It's not quite bad in IT

...most of the execs are Reeps, though.

[Virginia Dare]

9. Mark down date and time of this comment, and any witnesses..

make copies of anything in your personnel file, cover your ass well, and secure yourself a good employment attorney. Sue your boss's ass off if you get laid-off.

[joeglow3]

60. You would lose said lawsuit

Sad, but legal.

[Virginia Dare]

61. Not necessarily, it depends on many things..

including if it went before a jury. My guess is the employer would settle before that happened.

[wolverinez]

10. They think he will hurt the economy? LOL

Do they watch or read the news? Bush has presided over one of the worst economic time periods in U.S. history.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

13. I remember

the thread you reference.

I don't blame you for being amazed at this kind of "willful stupidity."

I heard some of it on Saturday in front of my house when one of my freeper neighbors was gushing about Sarah Palin. Us 4 Democrats sitting having a cocktail just looked at her in amazement and my husband, god love him, said "Sarah Palin is a fucking moron and anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron." He's a phrase maker. :)

[Medusa]

88. One of my uncles told me that Sarah was smarter

than "that Obama". When I recounted how many colleges it took Palin to achieve a bachelor's in Journalism and how Obama was editor of the Harvard Law Review, he grew quite quiet. Can't imagine why.

[EFerrari]

14. They're afraid OBAMA is going to wreck the economy?

:crazy:

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. There's a guy at my job who - barely joking - said he was going to

move to Australia if Obama wins, because he wants nothing to do with socialism. He then pointed to the bailout as evidence of what was in store.

Had I been quicker on my feet I might have mentioned that the REAL lefties in congress, including the only elected Socialist, voted AGAINST the bailout. It was the moderate corporatists - including both candidates - who voted FOR it.

Things is sooo weird, these days.

[BrklynLiberal]

24. Oops. I think Australia has SOCIAIZED MEDICINE!!!!!

Maybe he should consider moving to Iraq.

[ratherunique]

16. the old white ladies at my job are shitting bricks

they're acting like alqueda's about to take over the government. one had the nerve to say god bless us all when he becomes pres. this other lady had the nerve to call me brainwashed, and she's a registered dem.

[bedazzled]

93. had the same thing today. my boss said "think it's bad now, wait until obama gets in"

i told her i was ashamed of her.

can't wait til this racism bites the dust

[immoderate]

17. Tell the boss...

It's not in his interest to have only workers who didn't see what was happening.

--IMM

[reflection]

18. Isn't that the truth.

I have always welcomed points of view from all kinds of people, yes, even RWers. I just subscribe to this crazy notion that we can all learn from each other in *some* way. Just about everyone in this world brings *something* to the table.

[immoderate]

22. Agree.

I do some teaching, and though I may know more than my students, I always learn things from them.

That's the essence of Franken's Stuart Smally character.

--IMM

[smoogatz]

20. Yep. Don't forget--they tried to organize a coup against FDR.

Same assholes, different century.

[Shine]

23. The cake is baked. These people know it's all over.

Good for you for keeping a calm head and not planning on gloating. :thumbsup:

[Blu Dahlia]

25. I can't believe your boss went there with you

what an asshole, and you're such a great sport!

[abumbyanyothername]

26. I fully expect President Barack Hussein Obama to move quickly

from the soft spoken, "I want your vote and here's why you should give it to me", to the soft spoken, "I am the President of your (all of you's) country and here is how we can all make it better."

Remember that he rocketed to political fame on the back of his "no red state, no blue state, but a United States of America" speech and I believe that it remains a cornerstone of his political philosophy.

[marlakay]

27. I know how it feels to work for neo cons

when the small hotel i work at that was owned by nice liberal folks got sold last christmas my new bosses on our first conversation that was political told me the clintons murdered people! Needless to say, I didn't talk about it again with them.

They have seen the bumper stickers on my car not just grandmama for obama but don't bitch start a revolution and end the war. For months they picked on me about stupid little things and tried to get me to quit. I almost did this summer but only stayed because I couldn't find another job I liked and I need the money.

They finally stopped bugging us for a few months then the last week or so have been picking on me and the others again. My co-workers are dems too thank god!

I was thinking about it last night and they are probably pissed their side is losing this time.

I forgot to set the clock back in the kitchen the other night and when I called yesterday to say sorry, my co worker said they were mad about it. That is what I mean about little stuff.

[reflection]

32. I hate that we as a nation

cannot tolerate differing points of view anymore. We don't discuss anymore, we just pick a side and cheer, as if we were at a sporting event.

Somehow we have got to get to a point where we are intellectually curious again. As one of my favorite poets said (Swamp Rat will know who I'm referring to), "the spaces in between (us) leave room for you and I to grow."

[ratherunique]

35. i always end up working with neo-cons

my last job was the worst though. my old boss used to pass around a wind up anne coulter doll. they used try to talk me down everyday about my democratic support. i can't believe i stuck around that place for 1 whole year.

[ContinentalOp]

30. I remember your original thread.

Just think, tomorrow you get your revenge!

[Motown_Johnny]

33. you should tell him that you expect to be the first to get a raise once things improve under Obama

[reflection]

36. Heh. I hadn't even thought of that.

That may be a good phrase to trot out down the road. (Assuming I haven't been tossed out on my ear.)

[JimWis]

34. I said it in a reply to another post, and will say it again. How can

people who were apparently intelligent enough to get themselves to the point they are now in their employment, and actually believe the crap they are saying about Obama winning. Don't they do research, don't they have enough intelligent to read a little and understand the polices of both candidates? And how it will effect them? McCain will further destroy what Bush hasn't yet. Yet they vote for him. Idiots I guess.

[demokatgurrl]

37. Good Lord, what kind of place do you work in?

I am in a big corporation and there are lots of repubs to be sure, but the higher-ups know there are Dems amongst us.

[reflection]

41. Small engineering firm (10-15 employees). n/t

[progressivebydesign]

38. They bought into those dumbass emails written by GOP staffers, about firing people.

Those stupid emails, which always seem like they're written by some guy in his small biz, are always written by communications staff for the republicans -- and they are forwarded around. Now.. NO ONE who believes those things and tells people that they'll get fired and the business will collapse, can actually tell you WHY that will happen. They are just greedy and paranoid people. It doesn't occur to your bosses that the economy is shambles already. The weird thing is.. these people have to know that the taxes are going to change on AGI of 250k+, but most businesses make sure that their AGI is as low as possible, plus... if the economy stays in the toilet, no one has the money to do the projects that they depend on for their livelihood (unless their projects are in the defense industry.)

I wish you luck. I've been able to quit every job where my bosses were total assholes like that, so I feel your pain on having to stay there this long.

[Canuckistanian]

39. Ignorance and fear mongering are a deadly combination

If people don't know how to filter the information that passes them by every day, they'll just latch on to the most accessible source of information, however flawed. And in this case, it's the MSM with it's DAILY misquotes, misdirection and outright LIES.

Conversely, the powers that be realize that they HAVE to seek out an encourage those who are most suggestible. This is necessary to convince them of such bizarre concepts as "sharing the wealth is socialism/communism/Marxism" or "Obama is a Muslim extremist who will encourage gays to marry".

The sad part is, there are many, many people like that out there. Not enough to actually secure a voting mandate, but they make up for it with SHEER VOLUME and VISIBILITY.

It's a vicious cycle. The only hope I see is EDUCATION.

Plain old civics lessons would be a start.

[stopbush]

42. If it wa me, I'd walk in on Weds with a HUGE smile on my face and

an offer to buy lunch or coffee for anybody who wants to celebrate the COUNTRY'S victory.

[reflection]

47. I think I'm going to bring a bunch of donuts Wed

win or lose. That's always a feelgood snack when you're having a bad day.

[SurfinBetty]

85. Hey, why not donkey shaped cookies?

Or elephants to cheer them up?

[davsand]

91. Don't forget the (sparkling) Juice!

Possibly one of the most evil things I have ever done professionally. They finally fired an absolute asswipe from our office so I took in a couple dozen donuts and several bottles of sparkling juice the next day.

It was remarked later that while I am not noted for my subtlety, I do a wicked good morning treat...


:evilgrin:




Laura

[apnu]

44. Politically, they're melting down here at my job too.

Demoralized, depressed, angry, and scared witless by Obama.

The brokers at my company are in total panic mode over Obama's "socialism" and believe that, come November 5th, All of America will be a welfare state. Every. Last. Citizen.

:crazy:

Other than politics, things are normal here. People win trades, people lose trades. They talk of football and sex (with or without their life partners).

[GoesTo11]

45. You should find a new job.

After the boss said what he did, there's just no way you should stay there. Don't quit - that harms you, but start looking for a new job and when you find one, leave with minimal notice. Human dignity demands that you not continue working for this oppressor.

[populistdriven]

46. Sorry but the brainwashed Palin supporters will be "Left Behind"

[Ganja Ninja]

48. "we are in for a very tense post-election period."

Expect driving to be hazardous to your health on November 5th. Seriously I urge everyone that doesn't have to go out on the roads to stay home. The wing nuts will be out on the roads taking their rage out on fellow drivers. Avoid them at all costs.

[Hansel]

49. I work at a large bank in Trust Assets Operations

and my boss's boss (VP) met Obama personally when he was in town. She's ga ga over him. Most of the people I work with are Democrats and huge Obama supporters. And I've turned several of those who weren't.

The corporation itself accidentally sent me an email saying to vote for McCain because Obama's economic policies would hurt them. I'm the only one in my department that got it and the person who sent it tried to recall it so I know it was an accident. And they wonder why I won't contribute to their PAC. :shrug:

[WeDidIt]

50. My Prediction for your office

In four years, they'll all love Obama due to the peace and prosperity.

[kestrel91316]

51. My oldest, best friend just stopped by the office and we got to talking about

the election. He is completely apolitical, doesn't vote, leans right on economic issues and drilling for oil. leans WAAAAYYYYY left on medical care (wants "socialized" medicine), doesn't care enough about gay issues to vote one way or the other on Prop 8. Son of a cop, almost became one himself.

He thinks McCain is TOAST and all because of that idiot, Palin. He HATES Palin.

And he'll be ok with Obama if he wins; knows he is a moderate Dem and not a "leftist" or communist, lol.

[DeschutesRiver]

53. Reading this thread almost makes me feel as good as watching the polls:)

The polls can't be that far off, because what you guys are gauging, or "polling" is reflecting the same thing - McCain has lost, and Obama will win big.

I'm noticing the same reaction online - sure, there are holdout groups who seem to honestly think we are going to be surprised when McCain wins tomorrow, but their reasons why are fairly delusional.

A surprising number of these repub/freeper/news message boards are treating Obama as president as a done deal.

[graywarrior]

54. I am amazed at the anger and deep deep depression of some of my republican

acquaintences. I laugh under my breath. We've been dealing with fear and depression for 8 years and I can't believe they think it's been a good ride.

[Bravo Zulu]

55. Keep a log of all threats on you,

contact a union,if your boss thinks you are going to organize a union, he will treat you better to keep the union out!

[Pluvious]

59. Around the public poker table last night...

At the big Sunday tournament (here in Los Angeles) talk got
rolling on politics (usually an avoided topic, as players
are always quite a mix).

It was 100% Palin bashing, a few "McCrypt's too old," country's
in a mess, etc. ZERO speaking out supporting anything GOP.

One older black player said, "I've not voted for 50 years,
but Tuesday I'm gonna be out there. This is too important
for anyone to sit home."

Then it died down, and we got back to stealing, lying,
and bullying to take chips away for ourselves.

[Orsino]

62. They have no choice but to panic.

Support for McCain/Palin absolutely requires a world view about forty-five degrees off reality. Accepting the opposite outcome therefore requires histrionics similarly removed from Earth Prime. Give 'em a few weeks to calm down, and they will begin assimilating new data--suitably modified to fit their fantasies, of course.

By mid-December, they will have blamed the economic collapse on Obama.

[MarthaMyDear]

63. The Repubs at my work are resigned to an Obama win!

They're taking it pretty well, in fact (so far). I wonder if deep down, they want Obama to win! :)

My Obama supporter co-workers are smiling brightly today....we're all in great spirits and know that soon we'll have a President Obama to support! :)

Making coconut cream pie tonight, then taking 2 days off work!

[Ozma]

64. Do all of these engineers and employees make over $250K??

What are they afraid of?

Taxes?

Accountability? Responsibility? Responsive government regulation?

Maybe they are making money kissing Republicans asses for contracts?

[harun]

66. Yah, doesn't make sense to me either

Majority of Engineers I work with are for Obama. We are Software Engineers though.

[Ozma]

68. Software engineers have logical minds....explains a lot! n/t

[NAO]

65. They are feeling EXACTLY how we felt 4 years ago

There were even articles in newspapers and online about post-Kerry defeat depression and rage.

I felt this too, and before the 2004 election, I realized that after the election, half of Americans would be in despair. I just hoped I was not in that half.

Last time I was. This time it's them.

[RedLetterRev]

72. I'm not so sure about "exactly"

Yeah, I know they're upset and their widdle feewings are hurt, but I can't spare an ounce of pity. I have no patience for willful ignorance or those who choose to wallow in stupidity and are proud of it. But to say they feel "exactly" as we have, no, sorry, my friend, I'll have to differ respectfully. And mind, I'm not going off at you. It's just the situation.

It's our turn to have some relief and (G'dde forgive me and I'll work on it LATER) if they're unhappy now, I'm saying good. It's about durned time.

Here's why:

In 2000 I watched my ballots and the ballots of my neighbors get carted away at daybreak in Florida. That was depression and rage, when I realized Katherine Harris had helped pull a fast one, using a tiny clause in Florida election law to bury the evidence of election theft. (Bitch had all day the day before to get trucks to the polls on time to pick up the ballots, but couldn't manage it; but she could get folks' asses out of bed at 4am to roll truck to destroy uncounted ballots "as required by Florida election law"... yeahright :grr:)

Then they robbed Ohio in 2004. That was rage and depression exponentiated, seeing how we'd been ripped twice and little had been done about it. HAVA a nice day. Thanks Ney, Abramaoff, and crowd (and, umm, where are Ney and crowd now? Y'know, the architects of HAVA, the voting mess we have now? Think about it. Mmmm Hmm.)

When you see democracy stolen before your very eyes, when you watch your ballots hauled off for destruction, uncounted, before the first recount got underway, it's an indescribable feeling of violation. Not quite up to rape, but somewhat past highway robbery. I've been robbed before and the dirty feeling of violation was much the same as watching those boxes of ballots being destroyed. My partner and I called that The Day Democracy Died. Hearing about the "Florida Circus" on TV covered up a lot of the grief and shock a lot of felt witnessing that, on that warm November morning 8 years ago. We never got a voice. Folks outside Florida got all the news about butterfly ballots and Pore Ole Aint Minnie who couldn't figure one out, but that was horseshit designed to cover up the destruction of those critical uncounted ballots.

That rage still burns because that violation was never addressed. Let me tell my fellow DUers about rage and depression. The freeps don't know a thing about it. The few that have dared to pooh-pooh the theft of the Florida election in 2000 have gotten a swift kick of reality in the arse from this eyewitness.

The freeps just think they're pissed. Poo' widdle fings. The disappointment they're feeling is nothing, nothing at all compared to what we've felt the last eight years, watching our Constitution, our rights, our economy, our natural resources, our international reputation, our treasury, over 5000 American lives and over a million Iraqi lives all squandered for the profit of a few. They've shat their dydies, let them sit in their own stink.

We're winning this mutha fair and square, despite everything they can throw at us. Let 'em have their tantrum. We're still rightfully and righteously pissed. Dare they start the first thing, and they'll see just how pissed we are and how little forebearance we have left. My nerves aren't --->.<--- that long, and neither are the nerves of a lot of Dems, Independents, and Progressives who've long since tired of the idiotocracy. Let the first freeptard start with the whining. Me and a whole bunch of the rest of us are layin' for 'em.

[renate]

77. good point

They're mainly sad because their guy is going to lose. (Some are sad because they genuinely believe the B.S. they've been told about Obama. They'll feel better soon, once they realize that they were fed lies and that none of their fears will come to pass.)

We were sad--no not sad but bereft, and wounded on a deep, deep level--because twice we saw our country, once the greatest democracy in the world, stolen from its people in broad daylight and barely a finger was lifted.

So yes, our "disappointment" in 2000 and 2004 is very different from the 2008 disappointment of reality-based McCain supporters. And as for the non-reality-based ones, well, they have problems bigger than John McCain could solve anyway.

[RedLetterRev]

84. I'm relieved someone understands

there has been so much pent-up over the last eight years, starting with that first in-your-face insult.

I really thought our system of laws would prevail and the perps would be brought to justice. Over eight long years, it only got worse. If Florida in 2000 weren't bad enough, they were bold enough to pull the same heist over again four short years later with utter impunity.

I cried the entire day after the election in 2004. I'm not one prone to a lot of crying at all. Ok, at home, in private, maybe for-happy in a sappy moment. But almost never for grief and certainly never in public. The system failed and failed miserably. Where was justice? Where were fellow voices? I can still hear the freeptard dancing in the street at 4am yelling "Bush won! Bush won! Bush won!" like it was a GD football game. None of the nefariousness has been addressed even yet. Yes, it sticks in my craw when criminals run around loose. I hope they choke on their criminality now. If I believed in hell, I shouldn't waste an instant's regret imagining them roaring straight to it with a rocket strapped to their arse.

Oh, but ladies and gentlemen, a whole new Congress is coming in and it's a Congress that understands who got them there. Or they'd better. Complacency, business as usual, and same old same-old ain't gonna cut it. One of the inherent rights in our Constitution is the right to redress and out here in the real world we're expecting a pile of it. If *-Co is smart they'll get themselves and their boi Rove out the country now because it will be chains and bustin' big rocks in to small ones for them and right soon. After what they've done, that's probably better than they deserve.

:rant:

[yardwork]

76. The difference being that we were right about what was happening, and the right-wingers are wrong.

[Lemmi]

69. My boss has already noted bumperstickers..

in our lot and said that if Obama is elected and he has to let people go because of health insurance and taxes- the first one's to go will be Obama supporters. Sad, but true and this is an "at will" state. :(

[prolesunited]

74. Well, if that will cost him solid workers, it's his loss

If he's a good businessman, I'm sure he won't be so shortsighted. Sounds like typical repuke intimidation.

[PatSeg]

79. What an ignorant thing to say!

Unbelievable - great management style.

[trueblue2007]

102. When your boss fires the COMPENTENT and GOOD Dems....he will go bankrupt

Always look on the bright side of life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

[TTATWORK]

71. My RW boss told me....

That when Obama gets elected, that my pay will be cut in half, and that half will be distributed to employees in lower paying positions so that we can "spread the wealth"...I don't think that's funny, and I think he was half serious!!

[PatSeg]

78. Welcome to DU

I can't believe the ignorant things people say in the workplace, especially from management. Hopefully after tomorrow these people will go back to watching reality TV and wrestling. Some people shouldn't get involved in politics.

You have my sympathies!

[alcibiades_mystery]

82. Wow, you work for a fool, an imbecile

He may not be aware of it, but we have progressive taxation in this country. That means Bush has been engaged in "redistribution" since the day he took office. When we build roads, we build them for everybody, even those who do not work. That's called a society.

Obama's tax plan calls for a modest increase of 3% on income over $250,000, and a tax break for those under $200,000. The theory is simple: if the majority of the people have more money, they will be able to spend more money for the economy. that means you make money, and even your imbecile boss makes money. The GOP theory was that if you give more breaks to the rich, they will be incentivized to make even more money, and they will pump it into job creation.

Both theories make sense, but the GOP theory has proved utterly, objectively, and devastatingly wrong. When you give those breaks for the rich, they don't turn around and spur the economy, but use even more loopholes to get more rich, like outsourcing and off shore tax loopholes. They devastate the economy in their greed. We've tried it for 30 years, and it is a total failure. So it's time to try a different system: The rich pay slightly more, and the middle class gets more money to work with as they seek to survive in the environment that the greedy have devastated.

The rich, because they are unspeakably greedy and want to be even more rich, try to fool middle class people like your very stupid boss, that turning to the first system is "redistribution" or some other such nonsense. It fools the stupid or those not paying attention, but it won't fool everybody. Not this time. Your day - ahem, I mean "your right wing boss" wink wink - is OVER. YOU are going to lose badly tomorrow, as you well deserve, since your philosophy has brought nothing but ruin on middle class families for 30 years. You're finished in this country. FINISHED.

[ThoughtCriminal]

80. A tip - If you want to stay there

I wouldn't if I had options, but here's one way to keep your job.

Raise the issue in front of witnesses - meeting are good. Will Democrats be singled out for layoffs?
Drop subtle hints that you have consulted an attorney.

Even if it is an "At Will" state, your boss has to worry about the cost and publicity of litigation. This may be especially true for conservatives who think that lawsuits are like a game show that are slanted to the plaintif.

You don't have to sue - just make them worried that you MIGHT.

[MrsBrady]

81. i live in a RED texas neighborhood, and I can't wait for the meltdown! n/t

[FamousMortimer]

89. My grandfather always said never discuss religion or politics at work

and I hold to that. Pretty shocking that he out and out said he would fire you for supporting Obama though. Usually they come up with some bs thing thats "unrelated".

[Manifestor_of_Light]

90. A firing happened when Clinton got elected.

A friend of mine got fired from his oil field support engineering firm on January 2, 1993, because the boss just KNEW that the economy was gonna tank when Clinton got elected. He was writing complex programs for flash calculations and such, and was getting ready to switch from DOS to Windows. The stupid bastards fired him.

This is true; it can happen. The fuckheads think the economy is better under Repukes. It's actually better under Democrats.

[TheKentuckian]

92. At will doesn't mean they can't be sued for wrongful termination

and sue them you should because it sounds like this SOB needs to be taken down a peg or two. I'd do everything I could just to be sure that the asshole learns a lesson. These fucks always get away with murder and that is why they keep up the shady practices and bullying threats.

I'd get a witness or two and start Federal proceedings now.

[Rwalsh]

94. I've heard some say to my face

If Obama wins, they will say about him what we said about Bush

He's not my president

[BlooInBloo]

95. Isn't that, like, illegal or something?

[woolldog]

96. If that happens, consult a lawyer.

You would probably have grounds to sue them.

Document all your bosses statements to that effect in a journal or something like that too.

[Cleita]

98. What is sad is that no matter how successful Obama is in turning this

country around and bringing in peace and prosperity, those people will never acknowledge it and still will moan and groan about how the country is being run by those despicable liberals. I hope you don't lose your job over it and you should get legal help if it happens. I believe we still have equal opportunity in the workplace laws on the books.

[demo dutch]

99. My Miami office: 8 Obama - 2 McCain - & 1 didn't vote

[MrScorpio]

100. I remember that other post

And I have to say, bro, you are one cool customer

My hero!

GeauxBama!

[reflection]

103. Thanks buddy!

:toast:

[GetTheRightVote]

101. I have empathy for you, worked in a similar office and it sucked

during the Katrina damage. They were all big jerks about it and I could not helped but cry even more because of their hateful remarks concerning the people who actually lived thru it. No matter who they are or were they are still people for better or worst they deserve our assistance as much as we would expect to be aided by them. Remember on nation under God. I left before they could fire me and I have been off since leaving them. I wish you luck in your future as well.

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