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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:58 PM
Original message
Obama has NOT released Medical Records. Harping on Palin's is a losing issue
We can't be hypocrites on the issue.

Obama HAS NOT RELEASED ANY MEDICAL RECORDS.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:59 PM
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1. yes he has - they were just short
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:01 PM by dmordue
as stated in yhe nytimes
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:01 PM
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5. No - he released an undated opinion from his doctor
Not the same as full medical records...

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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:24 PM
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34. Palin hasn't released ANYTHING about her medical history
Sorry if you're blinded by your obvious slant of reality. :crazy:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:52 PM
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44. So what? She's obviously in robust health
I really don't give a shit about exactly what the dealio with the baby was. Palin's state of health never entered into my electoral preferences.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:59 PM
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45. How about if she has been treated for psychotic break downs?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:02 PM
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46. or perhaps she *wasn't* really pregnant recently...? n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:05 PM
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57. I'll add that to list of things I don't care about.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:33 PM
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67. I care.
If it were shown to be true (and I'm not asserting it is), it would indicate a level of dishonesty that should automatically disqualify her from holding any public office.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:51 PM
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72. She's already shown that
For example, misleading her daughter's school about a case of mono when in fact she was pregnant. And no, I really don't care whose baby it is; that's a family matter and I don't feel they have any obligation to explain it.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:09 PM
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60. How about if she has a third nipple?
You have zero evidence for believing she has any psychiatric history. You want something to obsess over, is all; I think your interest is morbid and misdirected. Palin's medical records are no more important to me than Obama's birth certificate is to a non-braindead conservative.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:58 PM
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73. That would make her a witch
...at least according to some Freepers.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:12 PM
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54. What if she had cancer before and was treated for it?
I understand your point of view about all details don't need to be released. However, I think that candidates should at least provide a medical summary (doesn't have to be long) which includes things like pre-existing health conditions as well as all surgeries they've had.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:09 PM
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62. I don't think that. JFK and FDR governed just fine.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:43 PM
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69. You probably also think that McCain's cancer shouldn't be covered
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:49 PM
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70. I thought you were worried about Palin's medical records.
But I see no reason to think she might ever have had cancer, any more than I do about Obama.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 05:20 PM
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74. All she has to do is release a one page summary
detailing any pre-existing conditions or surgeries she's had. Stop acting like we're asking her to go to the moon and back. :crazy:

Plus, if you listen carefully to her comments about this topic, there's clearly something in the records that she feels might open herself up to criticism.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:06 PM
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49. There is too a date...wtf???
Senator Obama’s last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:08 PM
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59. McCain hasn't released any medical records either - just let the press look at them briefly.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:04 PM
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15. Not much to see with Obama
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:05 PM by butlerd
I believe that McCain's records were about, what, a +/-1000 pages? We're not going to be getting Palin's records but it seems like almost a moot point right now and won't matter one way or another unless she and McCain win tomorrow. I think we all collectively know that there is SOMETHING in her records that she doesn't want us to know for some reason but if she gets sent packing back to Alaska I'll do fine not to have to listen to her or about her (hopefully) ever again.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:00 PM
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2. That's funny I could of sworn that he did.
Maybe I dreamed it:shrug:
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:01 PM
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3. Actually did, because Dr. Gupka did a show on what they mean. n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:01 PM
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4. I remember reading about the poor guy's prostate. Srsly, he must have released them.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:01 PM
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6. Yes, Virginia, Obama has released his medical records.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/obamas-medical-records-re_n_104094.html

Why are you defending Palin and making up lies about Obama at the same time?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:02 PM
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8. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
:think:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:02 PM
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9. Reactivated sleeper pod? Check the profile.
Losta years, relatively few posts. ;)
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:11 PM
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24. Yeah, right....
I am part of the gay mafia...
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:02 PM
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10. You are missing the point
That is not full records...Better than Palin's non-release, not the level of McCain's
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:03 PM
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13. So then harping on Palin's NON release is... what now?
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:27 PM
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35. It's a lose-draw situation for Palin, not a win-lose situation
That's why people should harp on it. There's nothing to gain for Palin by releasing any of her medical info, but it could harm her. What about details of her last child birth when she traveled all the way back to Alaska in labor?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:04 PM
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16. No one has medical records on the level of McCain
he let a few reporters look at thousands of pages of medical reports for an hour and forbade them from writing or recoding anything. To you this is a full release? C'mon.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:51 PM
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43. I do! But I'm 76. My doctor even jokes about it.
He'll tell the nurse to go get the forklift and bring him my medical records.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:05 PM
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17. They're his full medical records.
They're not initialled by his doctor and witness by a Notary Public, but they're his full medical records.

"not the level of McCain's"

McCain flashed his medical records to a handful of select reporters for a few minutes and sealed them again.

So, again, why are you defending Palin and McCain, and making up shit about Obama?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:10 PM
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22. thats pretty disingenous
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:11 PM by onenote
A one page letter is not someone's "full medical records". Its also sufficient as far as I'm concerned, so I don't see it as a big deal. But its not comparable to what either McCain or Biden released. Of course, there is a strong case for more complete disclosure by both McCain and Biden since they both have known medical issues in their history.

This is what was released on Obama's behalf and its all that I think was necessary (but its not his complete medical records):

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/obama_releases_doctors_letter.html
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:12 PM
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26. It's disingenuous to say these aren't his full medical records.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:13 PM by Bornaginhooligan
It's really splitting hairs.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:38 PM
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36. no, its inaccurate to say what was released was his full medical records
AN accurate, non disingenuous statement would be that a doctor released a fairly detailed summary of Obama's medical history for the past 21 years along with current information from his most recent checkup (conducted 16 months earlier).

And, as I've said, that's all that was warranted from Obama. And if the same thing was released for Palin, I wouldn't say boo, unless it indicated some major medical issue that warranted more information.

My guess, is, however, that if Palin released a one-page letter from her dr. a lot of folks would be up in arms, and I think that is what the OP was trying to caution against.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #36
76. People make the same sort of arguments about his birth certificate.
Oh, it's not his "official" birth certificate! It must be fake!

Blah blah blah.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:24 PM
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56. It is certainly more useful than the records themselves
Imagine the media combing through those records and doctors going on TV to argue about them.

Though a report from a doctor associated with Phailin would be enough. They could avoid mentioning the private stuff regarding her family planning choices - that is not our business anyway - unless she has something wrong with her regarding her reproductive system that could threaten her life.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:06 PM
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19. I don't think we are missing the point

I think we fully understand the level of McCain's release of his records.

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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #10
29. Mc cains thousands of pages
scanned in a short time with no memory aids allowed? Very honest, that.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:09 PM
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61. McCain's records weren't released at all - reporters had to speed read them.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #6
37. Blood pressure 90 over 60!
The guy really IS cool as a cucumber!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:02 PM
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7. Yes he did.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:02 PM
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11. not true....he has released medical records...here is just one
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:03 PM
Original message
Those aren't Full medical records - just a doctor's summary...
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:06 PM
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18. These links all go to a summary
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is in "excellent health," according to a summary of Obama medical records released on Thursday.

They don't appear to be full medical records.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:11 PM
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23. You're splitting hairs.
It's a full summary of his entire medical history.

It doesn't have every little prescription form a doctor scribbled on.

But it doesn't have to.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:03 PM
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12. Yes he has, this is a smear
He released his full medical records. Which for most healthy people who regularly have check ups can be summed up in a single page.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:07 PM
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20. bullshit. sorry. Medical records for a person of 2- let alone one of 47 NEVER
consist of a one page summary.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:18 PM
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30. Actually when I was 47 the only medical records on me
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:18 PM by sunnystarr
were for my pregnancies and deliveries. I just never was sick. My mother was the same way and never went to the doctor then had a heart attack and died. But no medical records.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #30
55. Me too. I am 49 and my complete medical records would be
just checkups and one minor condition requiring medication. A sore throat or two.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:20 PM
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33. It would probably be about right for me at the age of 44
A low thyroid and cholesterol to watch
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:45 PM
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38. My mother is 65 and, get this, has NO medical records.
I don't believe she's been to a doctor in 40 years, since her last kid was born. I'm sure those records are long gone.

I wouldn't be surprised if that one page summary pretty much covers everything.
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Michigan-Arizona Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:04 PM
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48. My dad was 81 & had no medical record
When the doctor in the hosp. ask me & my mother what his medical history was I told them they would have to go ask the doctor that delivered him (that would be the only record on him) because I only remember him having 2 mild cold's my whole life. I believe my dad washing his hand's constantly kept him very healthy.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:23 PM
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66. I'm 31 and I can safely say I have probably 2 pages of medical records.
I know I am wrong but I don't go to the doctor. And I have never been seriously ill. I can count the times I've been to the doctor in my life on one hand.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:41 PM
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68. At the age of (nearly) 47, my medical records would easily be contained in a one page summary

Never? Bullshit.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:09 PM
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21. actually, its not a smear. Its not that important either though
Despite what some are insisting, Obama did not release his full medical "records" -- he released a letter from his physician summarizing his medical history. The entire text of what was released can be found here: http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/obama_releases_doctors_letter.html

And frankly, that's fine. And if Palin would do the same, I wouldn't say another word about it. But she hasn't done anything. (FWIW, both Biden and McCain have released more detailed info, but that makes sense since they both have known medical issues in their past).

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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Thank you for understanding and going hysterical on me.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:03 PM
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14. Well goddammit then! How the hell are we supposed to win this thing?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:12 PM
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25. OBAMA HASN'T RELESED HIS MEDIKAL RECORDS AND HE FLIPED THE BURD TO MCANE!!11!1 OMG!11!!
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:12 PM by Sebastian Doyle
!!1!!1!!!!1!1
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:13 PM
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28. Wrong...
why is Palin not releasing hers is it because she is using BIRTH CONTROL and I don't mean the rhythm method..
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. I still vote for a tubal ligation ... (nt)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:46 PM
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40. I still vote fake boobies. nt
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:20 PM
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32. Obama didn't just fake having a baby to hide her daughter's pregnancy

So I'd say the analogy fails.

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dissemination Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. They will not release her private reproductive record whatever
it is.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:45 PM
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39. At this point it is a moot issue.
Absent "a live boy or a dead girl" no "issue" is gonna influence tomorrow's election. It's all on the shoulders of the GOTV efforts now.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:51 PM
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42. You do know we're FOR Obama, right?
Just want to make sure you didn't get lost and end up flying into the wrong house.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:03 PM
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47. You are correct.
A one page statement released from his doc.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. One page... that included blood work, blood pressure, etc.
Pretty telling.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:11 PM
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52. So says Lady Forrester de Rothschild's kindred spirit... he and you are both wrong.
Nice of you to once again spread disinformation about Obama. Meow.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #47
65. Which is 100% more than Palin.
Double meow.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:07 PM
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50. Am I the only person who does not give a flying f*** about
Palin's medical records? Maybe she has some fatal disease, we can only hope.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:12 PM
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53. Obama releases medical information: "excellent health."
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:07 PM
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58. I can be a hypocrite about anything I like. None of your business.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:12 PM
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63. try MAY 2007......now, continue harping
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:12 PM
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64. Of course you are correct... but I haven't noticed too many people harping about it.
Just the usual "spirited" crowd who always harp.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:50 PM
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71. Look, Palin is the hypocrite from hell
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 03:50 PM by ismnotwasm
She could be and probably is, lying about anything. Obama, on the other hand, and among other things, on a visit to Kenya, had A FUCKING PUBLIC HIV TEST and broadcast the results-- to help Kenyans lose their fear about testing. Not exactly a closed book.

No comparison. Stop it.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 05:29 PM
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