Thom Hartmann Show: Ohio Votes STILL being routed through GOP Server in Tennesee

[debbierlus]

Basically, the votes will be routed through a GOP owned server (same one that lost tons of White House emails), and then routed back to the election precincts.

How is this still allowed to go on?

Is anything being done?

:wtf:

I don't know if they would dare do it again, given the chance it would result in a serious investigation and possible jail time for the criminals...Watch Ohio. In 2004, Kerry was winning until late until all of a sudden, the vote flipped miraculously (and statistically nearly impossible) to Georgie.

On Edit:

Here is the Rawstory Link - This is NOT tinfoil hat. This is what the GOP does & after two stolen elections, people better realize that the GOP can't be trusted. I do not know if they will push this to such an extreme, but given their history and the set up being in place....

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Documents_reveal_how_Ohio_routed_2004_1031.html

[AtomicKitten]

1. WTF x 1,000!!

:mad:

[debbierlus]

6. I knew this happened in the last election, I just assumed with a dem governor..it would be fixed

These BOGUS Foxx Polls -

I am so angry. I will get the Rawstory link for the original post.

[AtomicKitten]

9. On the bright side, Obama has charted many paths to victory to hedge his bets.

I hope Obama directs on 1/21/09 a complete overhaul of the election process. The GOP has a plethora of dirty tricks to screw with the process. Aaaaarrggghhh!

[Tribetime]

14. I have to live here that doesn't work for me not again

[AtomicKitten]

15. my condolences; it must be pretty frustrating

[kansasblue]

38. Dem Sec of State too

Come on Ohio!

[SmokingJacket]

2. That. Is. Nuts.

What the hell is wrong with this country, that we let the election system get like this??

[margotb822]

18. This is definitely not democracy

This is an outrage!

[GregD]

3. Why wouldn't Brunner have changed this?

This is freaking insane!

[madfloridian]

4. The SOS state is a great Democrat, Jennifer Brunner. Can't imagine

her letting that happen.

??

[rucky]

34. Sadly, she's not an IT expert.

and we just learned about the routing the other day in testimony.

[kwolf68]

5. Come on....

Does anyone think if this was true Obama wouldn't have someone checking it out?

"So, Barack...the votes will be going to a White House server"

Barack, "Ok, that's cool."

The tinfoil hat is on a little tight today.

[debbierlus]

7. No, it is most certainly NOT tinfoil hat. Here is a link:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Documents_reveal_how_Ohio_routed_2004_1031.html

IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED.

Got it?

[kwolf68]

20. No I dont got it

Just a lot of conjecture and inneundo. If the Obama camp is doing nothing about this information....then

1-They don't consider it valid

or

2-They are not competent in fighting for Democracy

Until Obama sends a team to address this so-called issue, I consider it invalid.

[BrightKnight]

26. Here is a diagram.

I would like to see a proper network diagram. It appears that the might be using internet VPN links in ways that might not be appropriate given the sensitive nature of the information. I would use encrypted dedicated lines wherever possible.

[ananda]

8. What if he doesn't know?

Tin foil hat back on.

[kwolf68]

17. What if he doesn't know?

You're kidding right? He has access to power, wealth, information, talent, skill of the multitudes and some radio talk show guy or some blogger knows more than he does?

[Wednesdays]

Or, what if he does know

And is doing all he can to correct the situation, but is simply not tipping his hand to the press? :shrug:

[seafan]

10. Larissa from Raw Story just said this on Hartmann. Unbelievable.

Is Mr. Conyers available for comment?


Will Mike Connell detail this in his deposition today?



Again, unless we restore our voting rights, nothing else will matter.

[Razoor]

11. why would votes in ohio go to a server in another state?

they dont have a server in ohio? Cant beleive this

[debbierlus]

13. It is a GOP server - read the link in the original post

Not just ANY server...a GOP server

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Documents_reveal_how_Ohio_routed_2004_1031.html

[arthritisR_US]

24. have dem poll watchers standing behind those working in Tennessee to

verify numbers coming in and going out.

[liberalmuse]

12. I called the Ohio SOS office and this is what I was told...

'No votes within the state of Ohio are routed through any outside servers. They are tallied here in Ohio by each precinct and then presented to the Secretary of State's office' in so many words.

[crazylikafox]

16. That only works if the server that tallies them is in EACH precinct.

[maseman]

19. Precincts DO tally their own votes

[dissemination]

22. Yes. they had one at my site a few days ago. ON SITE

[dissemination]

21. Thanks for calling.

[lala_rawraw]

23. thanks for calling, but...

I have the 2006 schematics as well. No one would release the present schematics or discuss them. But, I have the 2007-08 contracts that show the same companies employed. Based on this a). 06, 07 being the same and b). the fact that when I was interviewing staff at SOS who would not provide me with the current schematics and who would not deny the use of the same structure, it is clear this is till in place. There are no contracts I could locate showing the hiring of different firms for networking. All of them were the same firms. So unless the SOS hired and paid them out of her own pocket (hence no contracts), this system is still in place.

[Vektor]

27. Thank you for calling them to ask.

I know the voting system has been overhauled in Ohio since 2004 - I'm glad the precincts are tallying their own votes.

[Joanne98]

25. OMG

[ellie]

28. There is a DUer

that is friends with Jennifer Brunner and said he was recently in contact with her. It was a thread from last week. I don't have time to look because I have to go hang door notices for Obama soon. PM this person and have him reach out to her to find out what is really going on with this.

[lala_rawraw]

29. scroll up to where I wrote about the issue

[Rebellious Republican]

30. I would like to know, this needs to stay kicked. Here is the contact info...

Elections 614-466-2585

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/about/contactall.aspx

[lala_rawraw]

31. I am in touch with their office...

I have been asking them to provide certain things for months, including the current schematic as well as a tech audit that should have been done to determine if any legacy systems or structures remained. They did not comply. What I did obtain was the state constracts list, which shows that GovTech was doing work for the state well through 06 and that GCR (the project manager of the GovTech and SmarTech project) continued to have state funding nearly all of 2007. When I asked them about this and asked specifically what they were doing, still no answer. So perhaps now they will be forced to answer these questions. They have written Thom to say that my comment on his show was not accurate. I responded with these questions in detail and agreed to retract my statement if they would furnish me with the answers. Keep your fingers crossed.

[librechik]

32. go, La La!

keep their feet in the fire!

[Rebellious Republican]

33. Just say the word lala_rawraw, I will be the first to start the calling..

we do not need another fiasco in Ohio, and hell I live in Flori-duh, guess thats why I care so much.

:kick:

[lala_rawraw]

36. thanks...

and i will keep you posted, but I don't think it a good idea to call at this time, because they cannot fix the situation... and if i am wrong - hoping I am wrong - we don't want to tie up their office when they need to be focused in the next 24 hours. i will keep you posted as this moves forward.:)

[Rebellious Republican]

37. No problem, thats why I asked first, figured you had a better handle

on the situation. I am just glad someone is on top of it.

:toast:

[Laelth]

35. Good thing Obama doesn't need Ohio's EV's to win.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[MadMaddie]

39. This is why privatization must be taken out of the election process!

The machines have to originate from a non-partisan group out of DC.

This has got to stop!!

[glitch]

40. Good, if they try it again - we can do an audit and put some people in jail.

Not this time.

[uponit7771]

41. If Obama just gets rid of the dirty tricks Dems wills stay in office for a couple of generations