Expect Chuck Todd on MSNBC says we should know by 8:05 pm

[LiberalinNC]

the outcome!

[Richardo]

1. What time zone?

PST I hope.

[kstewart33]

2. Is that eastern time? nt

[LiberalinNC]

6. YES, EST!

[Lorentz]

30. I would believe 8pm PST, but not EST.

Why would the media predict the outcome of an election when most of the votes won't be counted until 3 hours later?

[ourbluenation]

39. polls close at 8 PM in calif. I think you're right - it's 8 PM west coast time.

sorry easterners. you gotta stay up late...as if you weren't gonna be up partying you're asses off anyways!!!!

[tekisui]

3. That means only one thing!

OBAMA LANDSLIDE!!!!

[mollymongold]

4. how would we know that early? what if va and indiana are too close to call

when they close? that's when florida and ohio close.

[tekisui]

5. He must have seen the final numbers. If is it a blowout

in VA, and just one more of the Eastern Swings--Landslide.

[mollymongold]

22. yeah, I understand that, but if VA is too close to call and the swing states are close

how would we know for sure that early? If he knows that early will he announce it on air?

[tekisui]

25. He is saying that his numbers show VA will NOT be close.

And neither will at least one other Eastern Swing state.

[mollymongold]

32. WOW! Why didn't say that earlier on Morning Joe when they kept pimping the

mason dixon polls? Oh well. I hope he's right!

[Bleacher Creature]

8. That's the point. If VA isn't too close to call, it's going to be a very good night.

[mollymongold]

34. Well, I was just asking how does he know it's not gonna be close since VA polls are close but

someone said he knows its not going to be close. I don't know, I'm not watching Hardball, I'm watching Oprah right now, so I'm not sure what exactly he said lol.

[high density]

11. Todd said that if IN is too close to call then it's a bad night for McCain

That should be an instant call for a Repuke.

[ourbluenation]

7. poor california - we get no love in these things. n/t

[deadmessengers]

13. That's ok - you get better weather :)

[ourbluenation]

15. its raining cats and dogs here right now.

[hogwyld]

20. Yeah, talk to me about rain...

Here in Oregon, it rains 5 months out of the year at least. Well, at least everyone in California is a multimillionaire, or so I've heard. :hide:

[deadmessengers]

33. Hope it lets up

I'm going to be out in the East SF Bay area for a week starting Wed. night. I hope to heck it gets a little better between now and then...

[bmartello]

16. I feel ya!

But, having moved from a red county to a blue one... i'm happier and i drink less
:toast:

[jazzjunkysue]

23. Yes, you do! We just get to depend on you ahead of time!

[Justitia]

24. Are you kidding? You are our insurance policy! We love you CA! -eom

[GobamaX]

29. Well...

...at least our state's electoral number will help Obama in achieving a mandate.

[justiceischeap]

31. You get to vote NO on Prop 8

and possibly set a precedent for the rest of the nation... As California goes, so goes the rest of the US. That's pretty damn important in my opinion.

How was that for love?

[Avalux]

9. Well, if PA, VA and FL go to Obama......it's over.

Doesn't really matter what the rest of the country does! :bounce:

[ourbluenation]

10. I hate this. If it's a done deal, people out west stay home and don't vote....

and there's lots of down ballots stuff that matters, like NO on PROP 8!

[indie_voter]

18. I'm so worried about this.

I'm hoping the McCain people stay home if the race is called early and the No voters go out in force. My fingers are crossed.

[DCBob]

19. I agree. I wish they did not release the numbers until all states voted.

Amazing after hundreds of years of running elections in this country we still have a flawed system.

[Spider Jerusalem]

26. Not so much, the people staying home and not voting are more likely to be Republicans

the networks called it early for Reagan on election night in 1980, and the Republicans did better out West in downticket races due to depressed Democratic turnout. People who know their side has LOST are more likely to think 'fuck it, there's no point in voting'; people who know their side has won/will win are more likely to want to be part of the victory. People are funny that way.

[Chovexani]

43. I dearly hope you're right

Cali just HAS to defeat Prop 8. So much is riding on it.

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. That may usually be the case, however Obama has really charged people up. I think

a lot of people will still go to vote just to participate in this historical event. :)

[CADEMOCRAT7]

36. No, we are too motivated. This is history ! And, the props are land mark. n/t

[writes3000]

41. Californians are STOKED to vote for Obama. They will vote - for history's sake.

[PA Democrat]

12. States to watch:

Indiana- if it's too close to call when the polls close at 8 it's a good sign

Virginia- if called early for Obama another good sign

Pennsylvania- ditto

North Carolina- if it goes for O, McCain is in big trouble

Florida- ditto

Ohio- ditto

[bmartello]

14. that would be awesome! n/t

[Timmy5835]

17. Hate to tell ya but......

The results are NOT announced until AFTER the polls close on the west coast.

[Midlodemocrat]

21. HA!!! I'm not famous and I predicted that.

:rofl:

[Sebastian Doyle]

27. Chuck needs to shut the fuck up

There are crucial votes here on the West Coast, you know.

I didn't survive 8 years of a Chimp in the White House only to have his clone move in to the Governor's Mansion right down the street!

[WI_DEM]

35. how would we know by 8:05--there wouldn't be enough states in for 270 ev for Obama.

If they call it it's just speculation.

[beachmom]

37. I think he is wrong. Obama needs to win some western states in order to win.

Chuck is overstating the case. Plus, they never call elections like that anymore because the nets HAVE to wait until everyone has voted, or at least until ALL polls have closed.

[mollymongold]

40. Yes, they vowed not to do it again after they called if ror Reagan

and Jimmy Carter conceded before a lot of western states finished, I believe. At least thats what I heard, I wasn't alive...lol.

[kwolf68]

38. Yet Tweety

Was reporting Florida and Ohio are flipping to McCain.

[Robbins]

44. Tweety

He Is not the final expert.But,also consider today he may giving In to the NBC brass who need a close
election.He said to a newspaper he predicts 340 Electoral Votes for Obama.At one Point he called
Ohio safe for Mccain,and he has continued to help spread the Mccain could win PA BS.

I expect a different Tweety tomorrow.Remember he may be running for the senate in 2010 as a
Democrat.

[BlueIdaho]

42. Help me out here...

Either by convention or by law - elections are not called until all the mainland polls close (8 PST). We will all have some pretty good evidence after the eastern battleground states close their polls but an official call is usually put off to help western states get out their vote. I think its been that way since Reagan's first election.

Anybody?