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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:09 PM
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I'm DONE with Undecideds!
Don't want to bring negativity to the board tonight, because I'm really jazzed about Obama's chances. But I've been talking to alot of undecided voters these past weeks. Despite all the time and energy, keep in mind that this is a small part of the voting population that gotten a whole lot of time and attention. Now I have to vent:

I've defended undecided voters here on the DU. In person, I've been patient with them - my family, friends and people I've met on the canvass. I've walked them through their options, offered them my humble opinion as just that, and stated the official campaign platforms. All they have to do is answer the door, listen, think for at least 15 minutes, then press buttons on a touchscreen. If I could make it any easier for them, I would.

I've made it easy for them to do their own research before the CNN special tonight. I've carefully chosen, written down & emailed websites of unbiased sources to help them decide for themselves. Handed them printouts from said sources. Highlighted the important parts. I've then respected their decision to not think about the election until they get to the polls.

Calmly and with a straight face, I've entertained their concerns of Obama being the Antichrist, and pointed them to several Christian sources with alternate interpretations. With them knowing I'm Jewish, I've listened to their concerns that he's not supportive enough of Israel. I've respected their fear of being deceived. I kept smiling.

Some of them say they really prefer Obama, but now think McCain deserves equal attention. I told them where to go to read about McCain. For others, they want Obama, but may not vote at all. I've tried to convince them that if they want Obama to win, like they say they do, they'll vote. That the reason he's ahead in the polls is because likely voters like them said they were voting for him, and if they don't, he won't. That the reason the lines have been long is because lots of other people are willing to stand in them to vote, and they shouldn't go home if the lines are too long. I've offered to take them to the polling place. I've offered to stand there with them. "We'll see"

I offered to take 4 friends/relatives to see Obama at a rally last night. They all said they would, and they all flaked. Today was the last straw, when my SIL, who was fired-up after seeing Obama last month, told me she probably won't vote.

I have now come to the conclusion that most of these people are desperate for - and completely unworthy of - attention.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:10 PM
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1. hmmm I'm trying to decide what to think about the undecided maybe they could put me on
tv and ask what to do about the undecideds.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:12 PM
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3.  I've decided...
to kick some ass!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:11 PM
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2. Third party voters are always included in that number.
There aren't THAT many true undecideds. :hi:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:13 PM
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4. I have no problem with third party voters.
At least they've committed, and I can move on.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:17 PM
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8. That's what I say, if someone in a solid blue state wants to vote third party,
I don't antagonize them. They vote Democratic on the downticket races most of the time.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:20 PM
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9. Periodically, over the years, I've run into undecideds
And they're people who are deciding between voting for a third party candidate or one of the guys from the major party.

In 84, I knew a guy at WSU who was a Libertarian, but if the election was going to be close then he would have voted for Reagan because he hated Mondale.

In 1992, I knew Jerry Brown voters who were undecided between a third party or Bill Clinton and were basing their vote on whether their state was competative
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:13 PM
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5. +Better if undecideds stay home wouldn't you think?
After all it might mean 1 less vote for Obama but its one more nail in McShits coffin as he won't get that vote either.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:13 PM
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6. Anyone who is still undecided is simply to dumb to worry about. nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:17 PM
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7. I guess I feel dumb for worrying about them.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:29 PM
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11. I wouldn't say that. nt
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:28 PM
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10. anyone undecided at this point has a very low IQ
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:33 PM
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12. Bartcop and reader...
..define the undecided voter. Thanks.
quickesst



"I'm split right down the middle. Each one has things that
are good for me and things that are bad for me."
-- a 50-year-old moron from Amherst, N.Y.


"It's not race, I'll tell you that. I'm angry and I'm tired, and I just don't
feel it's right that people are losing their jobs and their homes.
I don't trust either one. I really truly don't know who I will vote for."
-- a 63-year-old moron of Philo, Ohio,


"Who could possibly be undecided at this point? It's difficult to imagine that,
at this late date, a voter could learn anything dispositive about these two men.
In fact, we know them a little too well. I've had sex with people I know less about."
-- John Cloud,




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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:50 PM
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13. I do understand folks being confused, I suppose, esp. if they don't usually
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 07:51 PM by tigereye
think about politics.

But to not vote! That's very hard to understand. It's the ones who think it doesn't matter that steam me the most!





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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 07:53 PM
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14. Me too!
I found one on Friday - he was just eating it up.

After a few minutes of this I asked, "Do you live in NJ or PA?" (Many people I work with live in PA but commute to NJ)

"NJ"

Me: "Oh never mind. This state is going blue. If you want to vote for a loser be my guest." And walked away. Not diplomatic but for whatever it's worth - shit or get off the pot.
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