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Mollis Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:17 PM
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Ugh. I need some reinforcement.
My dad just lectured me for 10 straight minutes about how Obama is going to ruin the country, prices will go insane, interest rates will go up. Blah blah blah

It's the whole...I'm going to tell my kids she's wrong so she will vote my way because it makes her feel like she is wrong about everything. :(
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:18 PM
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1. lecture him right back!
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Mollis Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:19 PM
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2. I wish I could
I'm no good at that in the heat of the moment.
And what I did try to say, he just shot down.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:19 PM
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3. Ask him if the current financial problems the country's having are Obama's fault
:P
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Mollis Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:22 PM
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8. He told me it's the Democrat's fault
I don't really know how he came to that, but it's what he claimed.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:28 PM
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11. Ask him if anything good happened between 2000 and now. Then ask him if he CREDITS the Democrats.
Make him weep in his sudden insight.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:32 PM
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13. Now there's a good point
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 08:33 PM by Canuckistanian
There's NO WAY you anyone could argue that the Dems have been in charge for the last years.

Yes, the Dems have had Congress since 2006, but point out the RECORD NUMBER of GOP filibusters since that time.

This has really been the GOP's show since 2000.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:20 PM
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4. see if he will read this
Jim Cramer (Of Mad Money): Obama is a Recession. McCain is a DEPRESSION!

What will New York look like a year from now? The answer: bad and probably worse, and perhaps downright catastrophic. Three degrees of awful. The first step was passing the bank-bailout legislation. Now that it’s done—and if it didn’t get done we would have been looking at a guaranteed economic collapse—the critical issue will be presidential leadership. And while any president will be an improvement over the current one, there is a growing belief on Wall Street that Barack Obama has the capacity to lead us out of this wilderness while John McCain does not. I’ll go a step further: Obama is a recession. McCain is a depression.
snip
continued
http://nymag.com/news/businessfinance/bottomline/51007
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:21 PM
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5. You are not wrong about everything!
ARGH!!! I would let it go... then every time Obama does something that benefits mankind, go on and on and on about what a wonderful man he is... and how happy you are that he won the election... and how happy you are that YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT HIM!!!

I'm sorry you had to go through this. Sometimes parents use their power for evil... sad, but true.

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:22 PM
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6. He's not going to ruin the country
Internationally he will improve greatly the image of the U.S. in the world. We are going to have someone committed to helping Americans who are NOT rich. Think of Clinton, the last Democrat in the White House. Under him, we got out of the deficit that Reagan got us into. We had a sound economy under our last Democratic president.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:35 PM
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16. Great post goodgd_Yall. What the OP must keep in mind is the
generation from which her father comes. Theirs is a mind set of ages past, that included world domination, social and cultural
intolerance. This is the dawn of a new age and many struggle with 'change.' They mask their struggle with 'radical' policies when actually they fear, change.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:22 PM
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7. Tell him "we will see". And smile.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:25 PM
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9. Tell him, "But Barack will be like Clinton, only better!"
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:27 PM
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10. tell him McCain's pal and econ adviser Phil Gramm is at the bottom of Bush's
economic disaster. Obama seems to have pretty sane advisors...
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nannycee Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:30 PM
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12. It seems to me that your Dad just described the country RIGHT NOW! ....
and, who is responsible for that? Simple argument!
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:34 PM
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14. Call him back
And start reading this thread to him!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7733045

My dad is a dem - will be until the day he dies - I just called him and started speaking that gibberish and he just roared! :rofl:

BTW - my dad is a former Green Beret in the US Army - so he REALLY REALLY appreciates this thread. I sent him the link! :rofl:
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eugeneliberal Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:44 PM
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15. Ask him if prices dropped with W's tax cuts
The answer is no. If the prices didn't drop when the republicans cut corporate taxes 35%, why would they go up with a modest raise in corporate taxes? Oh, higher taxes means they'll lay off workers? Nope, the huge tax cuts resulted in totally flat job creation throughout Ws 1st term and even in his second term he never came close to the job creation Clinton had--following a small tax INCREASE.
According to "good" Republican thinking, the free market rules. If so, then prices aren't tethered directly to costs, it is simply supply and demand. In other words, at what price do people stop buying? It doesn't matter if it costs 5 cents or $1.50, if they can sell it for $10, then that is the price. What varies is profit and damn little corporate profit is being put back in those businesses, the excess profit is going to CEO pay, stockholders, and increased lobbying money to maintain the gravy train.
Trickle down isn't even consistent with its own ideology and it simply doesn't work in the absence of price controls and other regulations that the tricklers are totally against.
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