Should we ignore exit polls?

[jefferson_dem]

[bagrman]

1. In every country besides America they are used to verify the validity of the vote.

[BeFree]

6. heh

The media doesn't ignore the exit-polls. Hell, they paid something like $10M for the polls in 2004. Prob $12M this time.

Basically we are being set up by certain people to distrust the exit polls. People! Wake up!

[Schulzz]

2. Nobody should start to celebrate because of them.

The primaries proved that are not very reliable. They are certainly interesting, but we will get real results soon enough.

[Essene]

5. if we see strong leads in PA, VA and FL...

im celebrating, dammit

[Essene]

3. Media should boycott discussing exit polls until 10-11pm

Discussing turn out and such is fine.

I also think we need to make this a damn national holiday or change voting to a weekend.

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. Funny how they were amazingly accurate up until about 2000 or so

When these filthy pieces of shit started taking over....

[Abugface]

7. IGNORE EXIT POLLS !!!

They are notoriously inaccurate.

[BeFree]

11. Or you could even say...

...ignore newbies, they are historically inaccurate. But I wouldn't.

Point is your claim of inaccuracy is inaccurate.

Fact is: Exit-polls are more accurate than the vote flipping machines. At least you can double-check the exit-polls, I have. Not so the machines.

[Drunken Irishman]

8. Look at DEMOGRAPHIC POLLS.

Not the raw numbers.

[Overseas]

9. Yes, I want it not to see who is ahead but to compare it to vote totals

like we do in other countries to double check election integrity.

That's what I want my exit polling for. Not "who's leading this hour?" but -- are the vote counts accurate? Tracking with exit polling, as we expect when judging the fairness of other countries' elections.

In 2004, the exit polling by Mitovsky (I think that was the firm) AGREED WITH VOTE COUNTS for hours and hours and later at night (11 pm?) were still in agreement at 51 Kerry to 48 Bush.

Then THE VOTE COUNT DIVERGED BY SIX POINTS ! Statistically highly improbable.
Kerry down three.
Bush up three.
Six points is a large discrepancy that would've been a red flag in other countries. Instead, we adjusted our exit poll data to match the vote totals generated by the Republican secret software using voting machines.

I remember election night 2004. If you weren't watching then, check out the documentary, now available for free "Stealing America: Vote by Vote" www.stealingamericathemovie.com

I AM GLAD THOUGH THAT THIS TIME IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE OVERWHELMING NUMBERS TO OVERCOME THE CHEATING.

[mohc]

10. We should not ignore them

But there has to be something between ignoring them and worshiping them. Exit polls like any other poll are subject to error, and in fact have a greater chance of sampling bias that phone polls.