What's this I am hearing now about Black Panthers disrupting voting in PA????

[secondwind]

is this true?

[SweetieD]

1. no

[secondwind]

what do u know about this.........we have read something about it on the internet,

and now it is coming across on Faux News (coming up next)

I had gone t here to see if they were imploding yet.

[Lerkfish]

12. well if its on Fixed news, it MUST BE CORRECT, right?

*sigh* don't you have something else to be doing right now?

[secondwind]

23. hey, I'm just surfing my DU like you are.............looking for happy news, until I heard

that shit.

[Lerkfish]

33. hey, no worries

and I mean "no worries".

[secondwind]

45. thanks...........I can't wait for this to be OVER!

[Warren Stupidity]

17. consider the source

here is a clue: what black panthers?

The black panther party ceased to exist in any reasonable sense of the word 30 years ago.

[winter999]

59. Shows how much you know:

http://www.blackpanther.org/

[MyNameGoesHere]

71. and you

There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation
In response from numerous requests from individual's seeking information on the "New Black Panthers," the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn.

Firstly, the people in the New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party and have no legitimate claim on the Party's name. On the contrary, they would steal the names and pretend to walk in the footsteps of the Party's true heroes, such as Black Panther founder Huey P. Newton, George Jackson and Jonathan Jackson, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins, Fred Hampton, Mark Cark, and so many others who gave their very lives to the black liberation struggle under the Party's banner.

Secondly, they denigrate the Party's name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. Their alleged media assault on the Ku Klux Klan serves to incite hatred rather than resolve it. The Party's fundamental principle, as best articulated by the great revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, was: "A true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love." The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the "white establishment." The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people.

If they are there then they are thugs dressing like the BP that cease to exist.

[Warren Stupidity]

85. thanks for planing this nonsense

I didn't have the time to go do the intertube-work

[EFerrari]

26. I hear posters at Team Sarah are very concerned about these scary black people.

[EFerrari]

2. What do you think?

[polichick]

3. Where? Not in my neck of the woods.

[Doctor_J]

4. Heh.

I thought it was Pink Panthers

[justiceischeap]

5. The only people talking about it are FReepers

So there isn't much to it, IMO.

[Sulawesi]

6. check this out though

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7751572

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. oooooo....scarey

Two black guys in the same place at the same time. Brrrrr.

[progressivebydesign]

19. Umm two guys in black berets are HARDLY "disrupting" voting.

give me a fucking break.

[Sulawesi]

22. one has a nightstick, wake up, that is a not a good scene

[AuntPatsy]

107. There are no voters NOR any voting signs, I call bullshit, as someone else said

consider the source..faux news? Who are we kidding here?

[seabeyond]

25. are you fuckin serious. and two white boys standing there with a bat wouldnt have you questioning

the reason why

do we become totally uncurious when it is our side?

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. Who says they're on our side?

For all we know, the videographer paid them each $100 for this little sketch.

It's two guys at one polling place, and we don't even know who they are.

[seabeyond]

35. regardless.... you dont fuckin dismiss it. n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

39. Yeah, this is what's important today

Two guys at one polling place who we know nothing about. Good job.

[seabeyond]

42. damn striaght it is if it interfers with a vote. fuck that crap. i am waiting for the right to

acknowledge voting theft. i am surely not going to ignore voting intimidation. i THINK the cops can handle a single call, even today

[alcibiades_mystery]

51. In the other thread, I specifically said the police should be called

And they were called, and the men were either asked or forced to leave.

So, this minor matter at one polling station in PA was settled as it should have been, and there's no need at all to blow it up into a national issue, which the GOP wouldn't love more.

People behaving badly? Call police. They stop. Next issue.

ta da! See how easy?

[seabeyond]

55. there is no NEED to go after the people CURIOUS at what is happening either

acting like we should ignore it.

cops called, situation taken care of, end of story

[progressivebydesign]

67. No.. two "white boys" would STILL have me questioning. Are you serious?

ANYONE with clubs and paramilitary clothing would intimidate me. If you believed they were republicans, you'd all be calling them "brownshirts" and "thugs'

[seabeyond]

76. of course they would. we are acting cause they are black, we are suppose to defend, ignore

or dismiss. i wouldnt if it was white boys with a bat, not going to with black guys and a stick.

they shouldnt be there with a weapon.

you and i are on same page.

[pecwae]

77. "do we become totally uncurious when it is our side?"

Apparently. This is BS and intolerable. I don't see how it can be excused.

[KansDem]

72. Hey, I'm a white guy and I have a black beret!

I wear it with my spiffy black overcoat during peak winter months. I thought it made me look like a jazz musician in post-bebop New York City!

[TrogL]

38. Where's the polling station?

I don't see anything identifying the building as a polling station.

There's no timestamp.

They mention it's being shot with a cellphone. No cellphone video I know of has that kind of resolution.

I smell hoax.

[AspenRose]

75. Not only that

The people standing around them aren't acting alarmed or concerned.

If these guys were really a threat, don't you think the bystanders would react accordingly?

At my polling place today the "security" actually LOOKED like security (e.g. 'rent-a-cop'), not like panther wannabees.

I smell a rat.

[FloridaGrl]

53. Who are these guys?

Are they with the black panthers? I am not quick to believe everything I see. Come on this is the fear tactics being used. First AA running for president so the black panthers come out to make a scene. I do not believe it. Someone should send this link the the Obama campaign.

Edit: I am happy to see it was resolved. I still question their identity.

[Jed Dilligan]

98. I love the way the little weenie is shaking in fear as he holds the camera.

Also at the beginning when you can hear, "You got my back"?

"I'm... I'm with the media... I'm a concerned citizen..."

I hope the little weenie shit his racist-assed pants.

[Lucy Goosey]

7. What you are hearing is utter bull-puckey.

[TornadoTN]

8. Sounds like fear tactic bullshit to me

Don't put any stock into it - it's a bullshit story

[TomClash]

9. Another riff on the "angry black man"

More Repuke fearmongering bull.

[Lerkfish]

10. what's all this I hear about violins on television?

what's wrong with violins? why they...what? what? oh....



never mind.

[secondwind]

20. thanks, I needed the laugh.

:rofl:

[louis-t]

48. My all time favorite SNL skit

"Violins are a very nice instrument."

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. I'd like to see some "disruption"

They have a video of two guys standing in front of a polling place, one with a nightstick. They claim to be providing 'security." Who knows who they are.

More racism from the right wing. Why would anyone be scared, is the correct question.

[Sulawesi]

18. those guys standing there are intimidating....that has to be stopped...

[scheming daemons]

13. No... Bye now!

[melody]

14. No, it was the Gray Panthers. They were using their dentures as nunchucks

It was brutal.

[Lilith Velkor]

122. OK that was funny.

[Richard Steele]

16. They're all over, carving backwards "B"s on people! CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

nm

[seabeyond]

21. i saw a video. and i am curious why that man is standing there with a club.

i dont think it is wrong to question why a man is standing with a club, being intimidating in a place to vote.

no one elese is curious?

[Sulawesi]

29. I am concerned, and getting lambasted for it...

[Sulawesi]

34. Before you call BS on this, go tothe following thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7751572

[EFerrari]

41. Can I just save some time and call bullshit now?

lol

[TrogL]

44. BS

It's a hoax. See upthread and my comments in the link.

[Sulawesi]

103. I hope it is a hoax! that would be a relief

[barack the house]

106. Intresting it allows no response busted in itself.

[alcibiades_mystery]

36. Poor you...the most important election of our lifetime and you're cathecting ona video

of two guys at one polling place, who, by the way, we don't know anything about, and who, it should be added, could just as easily be paid shills of the conservatives. You don't know shit about it. let's focus on the big picture and stop being conduits for disgusting Republican racism, shall we?

[cynatnite]

69. A guy is standing in front of a polling place with a club and you think it's okay?

:wtf:

[alcibiades_mystery]

83. No, I think the police sghould be called, which they were, and the guys left

I don't think it is an issue of national importance that two idiots were acting like idiots, and were made to stop, however much the right wing wants to make it a symbol for this entire election, with the help of very curious DUers.

[seabeyond]

93. that is fine, but we are on a fuckin discussion board discussing this issue

and what we are being told by a handful of people on this thread is it is not a big deal to have two men, one carrying a weapon, standing in front of a vvoting place is any big deal

then you have others like myself we should at least be curious and possibly call cops

that is what THIS thread is about

[alcibiades_mystery]

94. Good...it's the most important thread of the day

Good for you.

[seabeyond]

97. who the fuck said it was. go away then. you are the one making the big deal

lketting every one know to shut up, nothing to see here, move along.

we have had this bullshit attitude from fuckin repugs for 8 yrs. damn well bet i am not gonna move along, as long as i dont want to

[LanternWaste]

115. "most important post of the day"?

Making a post on a discussion board is now the equivalent of "most important post of the day"?

That's a new one one me. I suppose we all should be very picky about which threads we post in...

:eyes:

[seabeyond]

116. i am working on at least 30 threads today, wink. most recent is which pie is more patriotic

apple or cherry.

ala mode anyway. lol lol

i suppose i will be accused of that being most important too.

long time no see..... good seein ya.

oh

i am going cherry. like it better and washingtons can not tell a lie.

[LanternWaste]

123. You dirty, rat-bastard communist!

"i am going cherry...."

You dirty, rat-bastard communist!

Apple pie = All American. Cherry (red) Pie = Communist.

You may as well put icing on the top in the form of a sickle and hammer!


:)


:hi: back atcha!

[seabeyond]

124. ohhhhh. that was so surprisingly funny. lol lol. lmao. who would have thunk?

ah well. communist, i am in good company with obama.

just so damn hard to be patriotic in this country. sheesh.

[cynatnite]

117. Okay. Thanks for the info :) n/t

[Virginia Dare]

99. That's quite a bit different than black panthers disrupting voting in PA...

sounds like the "problem" has been resolved now. they were intimidating a poll watcher, but weren't effecting any voters.

[Sulawesi]

100. Hey, I am focused on the positives (see my threads)...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7750996&mesg_id=7750996

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7743002&mesg_id=7743002

but that video concerns me...I am not making it a big deal, but it is not to be just dismissed, if there were white boys with baseball bats I would be concerned too...

[progressivebydesign]

31. I saw the video too, and the "club" was really over the top. Wish someone would tell them to chill.

There is no problem, and no interference with voting from what I saw on that clip.. just some guys standing there. But the paramilitary outfits and the club, are so over the top. Someone should pull them aside and tell them to ditch the club.

[seabeyond]

40. i walk up to a two men one holding, what? a dainty little stick, i will be fuckin intimidated

what bullshit is this. this is not how we have to approach a place to vote. bullshit

[progressivebydesign]

52. I don't really understand your response. He's holding a "billy club" type stick..

and standing there in paramilitary gear. As a 5' 4" female, I'd find that very intimidating and unnecessary.

[City of Mills]

61. The lack of police is amazing

Especially with all the blood and suppressed voter's bodies lying all over the place.

[seabeyond]

70. right.... so with scorn and sarcasm, dismiss it. or address it and deal with it

as a poster stated, situation was address. thankfully not all ignore situations

[City of Mills]

90. Sorry, didn't mean to be flip, I'll drive down

And remove the offenders...or maybe i'll let the police handle this law enforcement matter.

[seabeyond]

95. which they did. as people suggest. as you state it isnt a big deal. n/t

[seabeyond]

i am sorry

your quotes on "club" made me think you were dismissing it as not a club, or something

poor reading skills on my part. the posts on my posts have suggested isnt a big deal. i personally think it is.

i agree with your post

[No Elephants]

92. So? What would it make you do? Leave? Change your vote? (Ballot is secret.).

[justiceischeap]

32. I'm guessing the people in that polling place know EXACTLY why they are there

and I'm also guessing they are perfectly fine with this.

[seabeyond]

47. then if that is the case, put it on the damn news. information is NOT a bad thing. n/t

[cynatnite]

37. He's standing in front with a club...that's intimidating...I want to know, too. n/t

[Madam Mossfern]

46. I'm curious

They certainly do look intimidating. There is no reason for the club. Question: Did anyone call the police to see if they were indeed security. I've never seen any weapons displayed at a polling place before.

And no, it's not because they're black. I would feel the same way if there was a white guy with a stick.

[npincus]

24. "Black Panthers"? They must have escaped from a time capsule.

http://www.ilkahartmann.com/jbrave/phototext.nsf/images/8596673FB4252B1588256E5E001096DC/$FILE/Free_Angela_Button.jpg

[apnu]

27. What you are hearing is the dulcet tones of Bullshit. (nt)

[IsItJustMe]

28. Sounds like freeper shit to me. Where did you hear it?

[progressivebydesign]

43. there's a camera phone video of two Black Panther guys in paramilitary outfits and a club..

Someone, probably a troll. posted it in another thread. They aren't doing anything.. not interacting except with the guy taking the video telling them that the "club" they're carrying is intimidating. No sign of any vote interference or intimidation, but the paramilitary outfits and the clubs, standing in front of the entrance, is being touted by the freeps and Fox as interference.

Having said all that.. WTF are they thinking? Someone from the Dems might want to have them stand down, because all their carrying sticks is doing is inflaming the right wing and hurting the Dems.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. POLICE WERE CALLED, and THEY LEFT

Next issue.

[progressivebydesign]

60. Glad to hear they left. That was the right thing to do. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

102. Kind of odd how FAUX and freepers were the first to know...

glad it's been resolved though.

[alcibiades_mystery]

49. THE ISSUE is SETTLED

The gentlemen in the video were either asked or forced to leave by the police.

So, on to the next matter, please.

Particular DUers would like nothing better than to spend the day as conduits for Republican talking points.

[WeDidIt]

50. Amazing, ain't it?

You betcha.

[progressivebydesign]

56. Oh I see.. we have to agree with EVERTHING here on DU or be labeled a troll?

Thanks for clearing that up. I've been here 7 years and I get shit for asking WHY these guys are standing in front of a polling place in paramilitary uniforms and a billy club?

When you start crushing any questions or dissent, you become as bad as the republicans. Sorry.. I voted for Obama, donated, volunteered, but I still think the guys were intimidating. And I'm glad they were asked to leave. All they did was give more ammunition to the republicans.

[alcibiades_mystery]

64. Reasonable people know that timing is everything

Do you "dissent" from the play called by the quarterback at the moment the ball is being snapped? No, because that would be FUCKING STUPID. Do you get that?

Stop hiding your stupidity behind "dissent." Fucking dissent tomorrow. You'll have plenty of time. We're in the middle of a play here.

[Lerkfish]

68. how do I reccommend just this post?

thumbs up.

[seabeyond]

79. doesnt mean all will stop talking about it cause YOU want them too

geezus....

[alcibiades_mystery]

87. Go ahead...talk about it

Elevate this silly little incident into the most important issue of the election. be my fucking guest, genius.

[seabeyond]

112. i personally think a few attitudes on this thread is MORE harmful

genius.

[Sebastian Doyle]

82. Are you afraid someone's trying to take your job or something?

Particular DUers would like nothing better than to spend the day as conduits for Republican talking points.

[alcibiades_mystery]

88. ROFL

Me? Try again.

[snooper2]

104. And since you are the almighty one...The Thread Will CEASE

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:


Two Guys acting like jackasses get caught on video.....of course it will go viral


THE ISSUE IS SETTLED! :rofl:

[Marrah_G]

57. I have a problem with anyone having weapons at a polling place.

Is this an actual polling place? Do we know that it isn't a hoax?

If that film was real, I understand why they were there, but I can never be okay with it.

It could turn things ugly far too quickly.

If those were freepers with billy clubs I would be intimidated.

[FloridaGrl]

73. I agree and these are my questions as well.

What is the "truth"?

[Lucian]

58. Absolutely not.

[FloridaGrl]

62. Did you hear the one about the KKK?

This is just silly.

[blogslut]

63. What about the white guy in the suit?

Why isn't he scary to you? Aren't you curious about him?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe there might have been threats made to that facility? From the video, it seems to me the only person who is upset is the lil' student with his shaky camera.

[Marrah_G]

80. If he had a billy club in his hands then yeah he would scare me.

The kid with the camera is a little shit stirring freeper that was handed a story on a platter.

[blogslut]

91. It doesn't look like a Billy Club

Looks like a cane to me. And that white guy in the suit looks like he's doing his very best to act disinterested in the whole situation.

Yes, the kid with the camera is a shit-stirring freeper, as is evidenced by the other videos in his channel.

The thing is, we don't know the situation and we have no idea why those men, any of them, were there. We do know the two men with the berets left. So, problem solved.

[Marrah_G]

114. I'll have to look at it again

Looked like a small wooden type club to me.

[TrogL]

84. Suits are nice places to hide weapons - ask James Bond

[seabeyond]

89. if i walked into my voting area with two white guys holding a bat in texas, i would question them

i would ask them why they are standing there with a bat. wouldnt you?i would want to know their business and without an adaquit answer you can bet your ass i would call the cops on them. why would this be any different.

[blogslut]

96. It looks like a cane

or a walking stick to me. And as long as they don't bother me, I don't give a fuck.

[seabeyond]

101. it is a billy club. and i would want to know why. i am curious that way.

i am also gonna be one to stand up for anyones right to vote, not trust, and if anyone is being denied i am gonna interfer.

[blogslut]

105. Since when do Billy Clubs have silver knobs on the top?

?

[seabeyond]

111. you walk past blogslut without questioning. i would question. n/t

[blogslut]

113. good for you

And there you go

[seabeyond]

118. lol lol. so cherry or apple

which pie is more patriotic

[blogslut]

120. Sleep pie

I'm off to take a few zzzzzzzzzzzz's

[seabeyond]

121. lol

[mollymongold]

65. This is all a Republican trick to scare the white voters in PA by Fox News

damn they are grasping for anything...

[AuntPatsy]

110. Im kind of blown away how many durs are falling for this bs

[Bucky]

66. Gee, I wonder who could possibly stand to benefit from such a rumor.

Alternative theory: Black Panthers hate Hope.

[foo_bar]

74. it was filmed by "McCain's Director of Election Day Operations" from what I gather

http://www.flickr.com/photos/electionjournal/

^ all Facorn garbage.

The use of Twitter as a discovery vehicle for raw political intelligence takes another step today with Election Journal, a project by Republican election watchdog Mike Roman.

http://www.patrickruffini.com/2008/04/22/twittering-philly/

Mike Roman most recently served as Director of Election Day Operations at the Republican National Committee during the 2006 election cycle and as the Pennsylvania Election Day Operations Director during 2004. Prior to 2004, Roman worked for the Pennsylvania House Republican Campaign Committee. Roman was also an Elected Ward Leader in Philadelphia from 2002 to 2006.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0207/Rudys_Team.html

on edit:

In Connecticut, the republican state party Chair made unsubstantiated allegations and calls for investigation into non-existent voter registration fraud, based on a video made by Election Journal, which is run by Mike Roman, a man who happens to be McCain’s Director of Election Day Operations and was the RNC’s Director of Election Day Registration in 2006.

http://three-cents.blogspot.com/2008/08/voter-fraud-we-will-suppress-vote.html

[kwolf68]

78. I am very disturbed

President Johnson has to do something. Abbie told me he figured the Panthers would be heavily involved today.

[old mark]

81. The "Black Panthers" in this part of PA that I know of are all

well over 60 years old, and are not very intimidating anymore.

We didn't even see any Republicans outside the polls this time, and there is usually a few handing out last minute crap. I like to verbally abuse them, but no luck this time.

mark

[barack the house]

86. Most stories are that Democrats are attacked the Todd girl proved they have to make it up.>

Barack has told our side not to get mad just get voting.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

108. "Panther" a registered poll watcher.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7751572#7752661

:rofl:

[KathieG]

109. This doesn't pass the smell test. I call BS.

[tledford]

119. Actually, it is Ross Perot's daughter's wedding party...

...that is disrupting the Black Panther convention in Philadelphia.

I would insert the "sarcasm" graphic but the shortcut isn't included in the "Smilies lookup table" and I have no idea what the shortcut is.