My idiot fundie mother in Northern Virginia just texted me....

[Lucky 13]

She said, "I fought off a group of young black men honking car horns and shouting at people about your guy."

I said, "Yeah, well, people are excited. It's an historic day. So did you vote for McLame?"

She said, "Nobama"

I said, "I didn't see a Mr. Nobama on my ballot. Does Nobama=McRage?"

Now she won't text me back.


Damn it. Last time I talked to her, her plan was to not vote at all. Apparently Fox and Rush got to her. I'm really really disappointed. My parents have been so brainwashed by the Dobsons and the Limbaughs of the world. They have lost all ability to rationalize or use basic common sense. It's a sad fucking day when you realize you are smarter than your parents.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. What will thanksgiving be like at their place this year? (Esp if Obama wins!)

[Lucky 13]

10. Without a Democrat to bash, the last 8 Thanksgivings have been pretty dull.

I predict this year will be SUPER FIESTY! My sister and I are the ONLY Obama voters in my entire large extended family. I plan on doing some first class gloating this year.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Yeah, that'll be sweet eh?

[mrcheerful]

22. You didn't hear? Thanks Giving will be canceled if McRage

loses. Next year it will be the out lawing of xmas and everyone will get to observe Romada which I probably spelled wrong, then again, it took 6 months of whinning from a born again to get me to stop spelling chirstian as christen lol. Heck why do you think I post xmas instead of spelling out the word? You know I'm sure going to miss being told merry xmas in the same mono tone as they say paper or plastic.

Then Easter, but we will keep Holloween as liberals need the sugar fixes their kids bring home, after all its kind of hard buying sweets with food stamps all americans will be living on when the stock market fails from all those bad loans to the poor that those damn liberals forced Banks to hand out.

[thunder rising]

2. She apparently loves them more than you ... time to say goodbye

[Xenotime]

5. True. I don't know if I could live in the house of a pug much less dine with them.

[leftynyc]

6. That's a shitty thing to say

They disagree about politics - big fucking deal.

[goodgd_yall]

15. I agree

abandon your mother because you disgree on politics? :wtf:

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. Even though I've ALWAYS known that I'm smarter than my parents,

I would never let their political views get in my way of treating them like the loving parents they've always been. I owe everything I am to them. That includes being a Democrat.

So are they, BTW.

[leftynyc]

34. Mine too

But I would never turn my back on family or friend because of politics. I have republican friends, we argue, I call them misguided and then we move on. 95% of my family is even more liberal than I am so that's never an issue.

[Lucky 13]

16. Well, we only speak every few months or so...

The relationship was permanently damaged years ago when I came out as a lesbian...

I've still had some hope for them. They've gotten better in a number of ways in the last few years, but they are FAR from "enlightened".

[goodgd_yall]

23. I went through the same thing

Neither parent accepted my sexuality, and Mom is pretty much in denial on some level, but as one gets older (I'm 54) you get a new perspective and more accepting of how your parents disappoint you.

[RedLetterRev]

31. That's a tough one, luv

It took years for my mom to calm down first that I wasn't going to be a Lutheran minister, slightly less than that to unstick her from the ceiling when I came out. 'S'cool now, we're buds.

OTOH, my mom is and dad was a BIGOLE Dem. That made things a little easier. After a time, they'll realize (hopefully) that you're their flesh and blood, too, and no matter what, nothing on earth will ever change that.

:hug:

[JeffR]

3. Don't feel bad. Most parents probably hope their kids will be smarter

than they are. If your mom ever felt that way, at least she got her wish.

[Jackpine Radical]

9. ...but few parents have gone so far out of their way to prove

the kids are smarter.

[Solomon]

21. It's a sentiment that struck me and made me open this thread.

The thing about it being sad when you find out you're smarter than your parents. I recently had the same revelation a couple of years ago and it made me sad. And the thing that made it clear was how they let religion dictate their approach to an issue. I know this sad feeling spoken of.

[Lucky 13]

30. Precisely.

They are so obsessed with the Bible and Jebus, it compromises their ability to think logically and have meaningful relationships with their children. Their fundamentalism has and always will be the most important thing... even more than their kids. It's f-ed up.

[Neecy]

4. fear not, you'll have the last laugh

[goodgd_yall]

7. My mother is just as bad

But she has Alzheimer's so at least she can kind of get a pass.

[Lucky 13]

32. Yeah, that's the excuse I use for my grandmother. But my mother is only 54.

And aside from being terminally stupid, there is no excuse for her.

[Virginia Dare]

8. Fought off a group of young black men honking car horns?

a bit of a drama queen is she? Where in NOVA are these scary roving groups of angry black men honking horns?...:scared:

[Lucky 13]

12. Hollin Hall area... just north of Mount Vernon.

[vademocrat]

33. Hollin Hall Variety Store!!!

I grew up in that area - my democratic brother and father are still in NOVA although the rest of us have scattered to other parts of the Commonwealth.

There are lots of strong democrats in that area too - sorry your parents aren't among them.

[Lucky 13]

41. That's where I grew up too! How old are you?

I'm 31...

[vademocrat]

50. Just a bit older...I'm 50 -

Lots has changed in that area but the GW Parkway, the Variety Store and the Unitarian Church are all still there!

[Lucky 13]

35. Drama queen? Yes. She's so afraid of black men it's comical.

[Virginia Dare]

42. Oh well, now she'll have one as her Commander In Chief..

maybe she'll learn not to be so afraid. One can hope.

[izzie]

11. My best 'mother' story is this

My mother went on and on about a plan for health care a local man was running on plus she even knew they guy. So I asked are you voting for him? She in he best Maine cutting me off. 'No. of course not, he is a Dem.' Frankly I said nothing as it is how she reasons on it.

[Renew Deal]

13. Maybe she voted for Bob Barr?

I noticed that a republican friend was promoting Bob Barr on myspace

[Lucky 13]

20. No. She doesn't like him because pictures surfaced of him with a stripper

:rofl:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

17. a very good friend is married to

a man 25 yrs her senior. Their kid is a great 17, and loves coming over to play games and play with the dogs. (he also likes people who practice lots of art, and let him get involved in it, too.)

We went to see Faust at the Chicago Symphony. They got the tix, I got the dindin. Being right smack dab in the middle of Fox news' age group (76), he went on and on, repeating every Sean and RUsh line of bull. Finally, I started to correct his facts, and boy, did he get flustered. For each allegation, I provided him chapter and verse of the reality of the situation. Everytime I pinned him down, he changed the subject. Luckily, his spouse and child were applauding my efforts. Apparently, he makes their life a political hell with Fox each night.

[JuniperLea]

18. It's God's Will that Obama be President!

Fundies need to learn to listen to their God and quit all this foolishness!

Here's a foolish and hateful church I pass by all the the time...

[Jennicut]

19. Lucky, My parents are Repub voters every year too.

I talked to my Mom this morning and for two hours (!) it was Obama is a socialist and a radical and I will be taxed and all my money will be taken away. I had to correct her that as my parents make $100,000 they will not get taxed under Obama. Sigh. Sometimes its better not arguing with family. I tell my parents that we agree wot disagree. My Mother says I am naive and will be dissapointed in Obama. I told her I am 32 and not changing now!

[Lucky 13]

24. I'm 31... and my parents are very similar to yours.

They are single issue voters. It's all about white fetuses.

[Jennicut]

51. Yeah, do they tell you that you are "naive" at 31 like my parents told me at 32?

My parents are about taxes, taxes, taxes and are mad that they will get "their" money taken away. As if the Bush tax cuts meant anything, just more debt and a bigger deficit. My parents thankfully are not fundies but think all Dems are tax and spend. I told them at least we pay for our tax cuts!
I pay my taxes, own a house, have two kids. I am not naive.

[Lucky 13]

55. They don't think I'm naive. They say I've been "deceived".

Democrats are lying tricksters and instruments of the devil afterall

:sarcasm:

[GreenEyedLefty]

26. My mother-in-law is like that.

I smile, nod and drink copious amounts of wine when at their house. I learned through some sleuthing that FIL is actually a closet Democrat - a STRONG Democrat, at that. Now, that was sweet.

[Virginia Dare]

49. One thing that's too bad about dubya leaving office..

is I can't bust on my MIL about him and his foolishness as much anymore. She proudly voted for him in 2000, but has grown to hate him. She still considers herself a repub too. After all the shit she gave me about Clinton, believe me, I've given it back to her both barrels recently.

[paparush]

27. Yep..another fun Thanksgiving Seaon..just around the corner.

Ah..time with family.

:puke:

[bobd0]

28. Please don't take offense but there is an old saying...

You can pick your friends but not your family.

My condolences.

[damonm]

29. "It's a sad fucking day when you realize you are smarter than your parents"

I had that with my Dad about 30 years ago, and I'm 46.
You know the old Mark Twain bit about 18 & 22? Dad never learned anything.

[mexelberry]

36. The hardest call I made for Obama was to my mother,

a John Birch Society member. But I figured, who else will call her?

She listened politely, and then, with a world-weary tone (because I just don't understand)
she said she will write in Chuck Baldwin.

I looked up Chuck Baldwin on Wikipedia. Yikes. But I can't say I'm surprised.

[Virginia Dare]

52. I googled him too..

after I saw a sign for him near my neighborhood. Yikes is right.

[mokawanis]

37. My parents are like that

They are both Republicans and the funny thing is all 3 of their kids are Democrats. When my parents visited me last week my mom said "I just want to be clear...I don't talk politics with Democrats". Way to go. mom. Just don't attempt dialog with people who hold different views than you.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

38. Oh, those scary black guys again.

Running around honking their horns at the white wimmin.

[Lucky 13]

46. I should have asked her if she filed a police report.

She's super scared of black people... men especially. It's ridiculous.

[rdublue]

39. My parents have voted for McCain too.

My dumb a$$ sister and I had a bit of a discussion last night. They are crazy people scared on Jan 20, 2009 they will be kneeling and praying to Allah. Idiots.

[ieoeja]

40. "fought off"? And there we see the racism.

Young Black men honking car horns and shouting? They're attacking!!!! Call the police!!! Riot in progress!!!

Young White men honking car horns and shouting? Look at all those nice boys celebrating. Isn't it great seeing young people get so involved nowadays?

[Lucky 13]

47. Intense fear of black men.

They're always up to no good, you know.

:sarcasm:

[Nydari]

43. My fundie parents voted for a 3rd party candidate

I have to say I've never been this happy about their election picks before.

[progressivebydesign]

44. I thank God everyday that my Mom is a DUer!! You have my sympathy. n/t

[genna]

45. What did she use to beat off "the blacks"? A stick or harsh language?

*sarcasm*


I don't know what is worse as a black person to know these dramas are unfolding within otherwise stable families or to feel good knowing that the children and grandchildren won't carry this kind of fear with them at the cost of that familial relationship.


I take my hat off to you. I believe hate won't rule the day and rift in families will heal over time. In the future, I hope you just won't bring up black people in power.

[Lucky 13]

54. She fended them off with her angry glares, I'm sure.

Despite being raised in a bigoted environment, my sister and I have always thought differently. Even when we were kids. We can't exactly explain why... and neither can they. They did their best to try to make us as fearful of any brown people as they are.

But this isn't JUST about a racial thing. They scream socialism and communism and rant about librul dems. So even if I manage not to bring up black people in power, simply by virtue of me being a Democrat and a lesbian, I'm in for conflict. Sometimes you just can't avoid it. So knowing that, I won't avoid any topic... my silence only implies agreement.

[No Elephants]

48. As a mom, I have to say it: Don't call your mom an idiot, even if she did vote Pub.

[goodgd_yall]

56. It's not the voting Republican

It's the lack of any rationality. I know it might hurt to hear a daughter call her mother stupid, but sometimes stupid is exactly what it is.

[Lucky 13]

57. She is irrationally afraid of black men. Doesn't that meet the criteria of "idiot"?

[dissemination]

53. moms are smart. she might know you called her an idiot.

[JohnnyRingo]

58. I wish politix didn't come between you and your mother.

I think my kids would lie to me before we split on voting... and I'd let them.