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EconomicLiberal Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:28 AM
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Al Franken has been dissapointing today.
How the heck is he losing to Coleman as Obama wins the state by 10%?
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:30 AM
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1. Well, how is Prop 8 winning in California, even though Obama won the state?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:32 AM
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6. Considering 85% of CA is still out, who knows.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:31 AM
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2. MSM numbers fooled me too. Better numbers ---->
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:31 AM
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3. Check the other thread just posted
It says Dem areas are not in yet and that (to the chagrin of many trolls), "Franken's got this."

:bounce:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:32 AM
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4. whew
thanx for that.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:32 AM
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5. I really don't know if Franken was the best choice as a candidate
but he won the nomination so that's mute. I hope he wins.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:33 AM
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7. If, and that's a big IF, he loses, your disappointment should be with Minnesota voters...
...for falling for Norm's snake oil. Again.


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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:33 AM
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8. A Third Party Hurt Franken
A couple months ago, I was ready to write Al off...thinking he didn't have the stuff to compete and he made a race out of it. Sadly, it looks like not enough people saw beyond the satarist and at the real man inside...but that's also the danger of someone trying to go from being a wit to having people take him serious.

Here's hoping there are some votes still to be totaled and he does pull it off.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:35 AM
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9. The exit polls look good.
Male (47%)
41% Franken
44% Coleman

Female (53%)
47% Franken
36% Coleman

Unless they're way off, Franken should end up ahead at the end of the night.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapSMN
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:38 AM
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11. Where's the third party candidate in the exit polls??
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:41 AM
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12. I left the third-party numbers off.
Sorry. They're available at the link.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:38 AM
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10. Extremely disappointed. Would have loved to reach 60 votes in the Senate. Here's to 2010.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:42 AM
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13. There is still hope
St. Louis County (Duluth) is a very liberal county.

Franken currently up 53-33 in St. Louis County.

35,000 votes have been counted. The county has 134,000 registered voters. None, or very little of Duluth has been counted yet.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:44 AM
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14. Isn't he effectively tied w/ Coleman? And there's a third-party candidate ...
... taking 8% of the vote?

And Franken isn't Obama.
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EconomicLiberal Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:32 AM
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15. Franken doesn't have many strong areas left.
Hennepin was going to be his strongest county, and 78% of its precincts have reported, and he is still losing by around 10,000 votes.

This race is Coleman's.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:38 AM
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16. Ow. Yeah, Coleman is up by 15k w/ 89% reporting. Ugh. n/t
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:41 AM
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17. BS. He has Duluth.
Duluth, a city of 86,000 is a very liberal city in the Democratic 8th district. IT HAS REPORTED ZERO VOTES.
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MichDem10 Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:43 AM
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18. Well they better report f'ing soon!
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GopherGal Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:02 AM
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20. Don't count out Hennepin


Hennepin's a populous county which includes Minneapolis, where there were reports of lines at polls at closing (voters in line at 8 are allowed to vote), so will be late reporting. That 20% not yet reporting is probably around 100,000 votes. If Franken gets just 10% more of those votes than Coleman, that's a 10000-vote swing. (It's currently running about 52-35-13 Franken-Coleman-Barkley in Hennepin, so hopefully 10000 is a low-ball estimate.) And St. Louis county (Duluth) is only about 50% in.

Franken really needs good numbers in these two.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:47 AM
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19. It's not Franken it's Minnesota. Their 3rd party was pulling 12% going in...
I thought. Here's Coleman; duuph of the new millennium winning. Will Minnesota be the last to understand: The 3rd Party/Nader Effect?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:04 AM
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21. If Franken loses it will be largely due to negative campaigning and the third party
candidate.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:04 AM
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22. There should be an automatic run-off or recount, right?
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:04 AM
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23. No run off. Auto recount if its within 0.5%
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