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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:43 AM
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Virginia went blue... HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO VIRGINIA?
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This is alot bigger than it seems. Tattoo's of the confederate flag are as common place as running water in Virginia. I remember going to a bar in Norfolk ten years ago that had a sticker on the bar mirror that stated 'I have a dream too' with a picture of the confederate flag over the white house. Oh, and don't get me started on the N word. But yet, despite all that, we won. WE FUCKING WON.

I'm still in complete shock.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:45 AM
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1. having spent my childhood there, yeah, Virginia is a big deal... nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:47 AM
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2. It's a big deal this happened ... hAtred is losing -- !!!
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:47 AM
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3. Not all of Virginia
There's Northern Virginia (a.k.a. Communist country) that's a suburb and exurb of DC. It's as blue as blue can be. If you look at the map, there's four major blue areas - NoVA, Hampton Roads/Norfolk, Richmond (heavy AA population) and one little county in Western VA - where UVA is.
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:49 AM
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4. Yep! Born and live in VA all my life to this point...............
and I am extremely proud of this state!!!!! We worked hard for Obama, and finally, the hard work paid off!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:50 AM
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5. I love when hell freezes over!

:bounce:
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:50 AM
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6. Having traveled through VA
an extremely beautiful state, I have seen a change in the last few years. I am happy to see that they have "seen the light". So happy for you who live there! and for what you have done for all of us!
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:51 AM
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7. I used to live in the Shenandoah Valley
'Nuf said
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:53 AM
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8. Did we win Virginia? I don't even know. I just know Obama won.
In my heart, I knew he would win, but the magnitude of it is even more incredible than I imagined. I can't believe it's over and I can't believe it's over. But mostly I just can't believe it's over, and they didn't steal it. This year, they couldn't steal it.

Our national nightmare is over.


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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:02 AM
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19. Guess what, we won VA and possibly NC and Indy too!
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:54 AM
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9. I'm so proud of you guys!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:55 AM
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10. Thank gods for the real American parts of Virginia!
;)
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:55 AM
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11. Love the state, love its wines
When it comes to wines, Virginia is the Washington of the East. Glad to see it blue in 2008.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:56 AM
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12. I grew up there!
In VA Beach, which is typically republican but right now am smiling from ear to ear!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:56 AM
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13. I've been to the part of VA that's not real America
but not Sarah Palin's part
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:58 AM
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14. I have family there.
Virginia is a beautiful state.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:00 AM
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15. been there? I was BORN there
birthplace of slavery.

home of whackjob televangelists.

Virginia is for haters.

Beautiful water, tho.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:05 AM
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21. I was born there too. It's a beautiful place and there are many good people too. Like you and me.nt
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FUCK_BUSH Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:01 AM
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16. I am proud of my state as well.GO VA
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:01 AM
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17. Virginian HERE

I nearly wept when we went blue.


SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stoked.
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:02 AM
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18. Lived there in the '60s. Glad to see it moving forward.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:03 AM
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20. I used to live there. It's like two states made into one.
You've got completely liberal/blue areas - mainly in the north - mixed with the most Southern-old-boy-redneck areas too.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:05 AM
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22. It's all them Commies and UnAmericans around DC...
I'm kidding of course. My thought is that even in those former dark red areas of Virginia there are a lot of black people who never bothered to vote until today. I think we saw that all over the country today.

That's what HOPE does for ya! :)
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:06 AM
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23. Oh yes...I go to college here...
in VA... I am still in shock... but we won... WE WON!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:07 AM
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24. Used to live there - had in-laws who wore shirts made from confederate flags.
Yes, this is HUGE.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:07 AM
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25. Yeah I know, they could fight a second Civil War
this time against South Carolina, over the title of "Cradle of the Confederacy".

But change has come today.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:08 AM
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26. I've been to Arlington, Mt Vernon, Montpelier, George Mason's home, Appomatox, but....
but never "real Virginia"
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black light poster Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:36 AM
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27. It's the education level that's saving us... mostly from No.VA
I was born in Portsmouth Naval Hospital... same place they took McCain after his car wreck at the Naval Base gate way back when. I grew up in Norfolk and Va. Beach. I've lived and worked in the D.C area. Went to grad school in Charlottesville. And have lived for a good while now in Richmond.

As a kid I played Civil War and had my little rebel's forage cap and guns, and thought the Confederacy was cool. It took time, education, and adulthood to figure out I was being scammed by my home state's culture, and that that fucking war really WAS about slavery. I live in its former capital but I'm sorry the Confederacy was a travesty. All of the romanticizers and re-creators of it that we have running around this state are deluded dumbasses.

My state's definitely a mix of some of the best and some of the worst of America.

But we're also one of the top ten best educated states in America, thanks mostly to the D.C. suburbs, D.C. being one of the most literate and best-educated cities in the nation. And it's that high average education level that yesterday allowed us to be the first southern state to lead, I hope, a progressive turning away from Nixon's cynical, racist, but highly successful Southern Strategy.

N.C. is the second best-educated southern state, and that's why at this moment they're hanging on the cusp of being the second state to begin the rejection of the previously solid south.

Northern Virginia is by far the most populous region, and the bluest. Norfolk/Virginia Beach by virtue of being a port region is more outward-looking, and in spite of being heavily military this makes it more progressive than... Richmond. The Richmond region may never stop contemplating its own navel and supposedly illustrious history. It remains pretty heavily self-absorbed, provincial, and conservative. I was in a small shop near the U. of Richmond today and the propietor called out "Did you vote?" and "Who for?" "I did indeed!" "OBAMA!" His shop entrance poll so far was McCain: 12; Obama: I was the 3rd. But that's the U. of Richmond, aka the University of RichKids, scions of well to do Republican families whose kids weren't smart enough to get into the Ivy League. VCU, more towards downtown, has major, excellent art programs, gives us a much needed bohemian element, and like much of the city proper is about as blue as you'll find south of the Mason-Dixon.


We're a complicated, conflicted state (but whose isn't, I guess?). I am very VERY happy we finally went blue, especially for THIS historical election.

But it's slooooooooowwwwww going, and the deeper south shows fewer signs of progressiveness. Soutern Baptists and evangelicals are getting worse, not better. Over all, really, I seriously advise the rest of the nation to secede from us this time.

Virgnia would split in two somewhere between Richmond and Fredericksburg. I'd move just a tad north and live in the nation with good sense.

Act now! Please!

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