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Wed Nov-05-08 01:19 AM
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:20 AM
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1. looks like it will pass, its been awhile since they reported on it but it was significantly ahead |
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maybe San Fran can pull it out but its not looking good.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:23 AM
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Andrew Sullivan has the exit polling on 8:
They show a narrow victory for marriage equality: 52 to 48. Every ethnic group supported marriage equality, except African-Americans, who voted overwhelmingly against extending to gay people the civil rights once denied them: a staggering 69 - 31 percent African-American margin against marriage equality. That's worse than even I expected. Whites, on the other hand, clearly rejected discrimination: 55 to 45 percent. Latinos were evenly split. But what matters, of course, is the margin of all the votes. It's still an exit poll, and those polls sometimes under-estimate anti-gay sentiment. So no assurance. But some provisional hope. If marriage endures in California, this debate is over - in America and the world.
I'm a lesbian who has worked her ass off since January to help elect Obama. This is hard. Our rights should matter.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:24 AM
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7. The African-American vote in the exit poll was very disheartening: 69-31. There are plenty of Dems |
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Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 01:25 AM by MetricSystem
who voted for hate while also voting for hope and change.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:52 AM
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10. African Americans don't make up a significant portion of the electorate here |
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Let's not blame AA's.
Thanks.
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Metric System
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:58 AM
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12. Oh I am absolutely not blaming them. They comprise less than 10% of the electorate. I just find it |
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sad that the vote went this way.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:07 AM
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I'm disappointed that one disenfranchised group would deny rights to another group.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:17 AM
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16. That is NOT a reflection of ALL African Americans... |
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...please remember that is just the one's they polled. There are a great many AA glbt's that got out and voted against this crap. I know quite a few AA's that consider themselves Christians that voted against this--who considered it a civil rights issue more than anything else.
The media promotes division, let's try not to help them.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:27 AM
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18. im sure catholic latinos had a large role in this. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:21 AM
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2. It's passing, but it WILL FAIL |
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Right now the rural areas are what is keeping it above 50%. Once the urban cities start to report, the 5% lead (which has been decreasing since the polls closed) will close up, and I have absolute confidence that it will fail.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:23 AM
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5. i sure hope so.... n/t |
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:52 AM
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11. I REALLY like your thinking |
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and I am keeping my fingers crossed. Make me proud Cali, I know you can do it.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:23 AM
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Votes take a long time to tally up here ;-)
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:48 AM
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9. Shit....I might be wrong |
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:(
FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!
But....let's wait until all the votes are counted.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:23 AM
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6. From CNN's Joe Von Kanel and Hal Quinley of Yankelovich |
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From CNN's Joe Von Kanel and Hal Quinley of Yankelovich
In California exit polls reported thus far tonight, Proposition 8 appears to be going down to a narrow 52 percent to 48 percent defeat.The proposition would amend California's state constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. Earlier in the year, the California Supreme Court issued a ruling making such marriages legal under the state's constitution
If the trend holds, younger, first-time voters can be said to be responsible for Proposition 8's defeat. Voters between the ages of 18 and 29 opposed the proposition 66 percent to 34 percent; voters 30-64 were evenly split; voters 65 and above favored the amendment 57 percent to 43 percent.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:25 AM
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8. ghastly, it's passing by 8% |
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only good thing is prop 2 is passing
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:59 AM
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13. It's NOT a done deal yet. Don't give up hope! |
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At this point, only 31% of the votes are in.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:13 AM
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15. Still too early to say.... |
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Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 02:14 AM by bliss_eternal
...many, many paper ballots to count in California. Please don't give up hope. I've watched footage of huge boxes of paper ballots being carried into warehouses, and listened to reports of record numbers of paper ballots. Lots of results left to report. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-2008election-california-results,0,1293859.htmlstory?view=8&tab=0&fnum=0
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:20 AM
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17. If You Weren't To Vote On It |
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You're just not counted?
Could many people have not answered either way?
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:28 AM
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19. Yes on 8 is ahead but ONLY by 4% now. Fingers crossed. nt |
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:33 AM
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21. Go look at the individual counties.... |
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The ones who've finished reporting were the evil No voters ; ) It may turn out alright!
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:30 AM
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20. I hope that it fails. It is horrible. |
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Not all the precincts are in, are they?
There's still a chance?
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