1 million California Obama voters said yes on the ban of Gay marriage

[Divine Discontent]

and thus, it narrowly has passed. This is very disheartening. I don't know how people, in this state could, after hearing for several days that Obama, Scwarzeneggar, Clinton and all major newspapers were against it, and the great Samuel L Jackson voiced-over ad talking about Japanese-Americans in internment camps, Latino marriage discrimination with Caucasians, and other bigotry that ran heavily, still vote for this horrible slap in the face to those people who are GLBT who do not hurt their marriage.

One can only believe that they bought into the Mormon's commercials that claimed 5 year olds were going to be taken to Gay/Lesbian weddings and taught directly in class that they might be married to the same sex when they grow up...

Sometimes I wonder what is wrong with people to be so judgmental, but as I saw, convicted felon Ted Stevens looks to have beat non-convicted felon Mark Begich, his Democratic challenger in the Senate in Alaska - so it goes to show - no matter how obvious a pick or vote should be - people sometimes get things wrong.

I will look forward to President Obama's administration - as many people of the thousand I was with cheered loudly when he mentioned Gay people in his acceptance speech - which means a lot to me, that Obama put his feelings on this OUT THERE BEFORE THE ELECTION WHEN MANY DIDN'T WANT HIM TO RISK THE PRESIDENCY - that makes me respect Mr. Obama so much more - I look so forward to having him be my president!

Many different Yes We Did items in the Obama/Biden section www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[WillParkinson]

1. Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden

Said that they were against the amendment but they were also against gay marriage. You cannot take a stand against one while preaching the opposite.

[Divine Discontent]

2. it very well was the one political move he made to assure he'd get a real chance to win

if that's what he did, fine, because I know his putting his stamp on prop 8 as being something that takes away state given rights - was a bad proposition to put on the ballot. I believe, esp. since he mentioned Gay people in the beginning of his acceptance speech, he knows it's an uphill battle, but it's one he is willing to talk about, in standing up for GLBT rights. He has made strides since a year ago I think.

[WillParkinson]

5. At least someone has confidence...

Because I'm tired of getting tossed under the bus for political expediency, which is exactly what happened.

I voted for the man. That's all he's gotten. He earned nothing and has a lot to prove to me in the next 4 years.

[mckeown1128]

16. Obama didn't put his stamp on prop 8... he was against it. nt

[deadlyaj]

3. I guess the populace just isnt ready for gay marriage

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Then They Shouldn't Marry A Gay

And prevent one gay from marrying another...

[Divine Discontent]

8. I would agree, as a majority they are not, but as they see GLBT couples over time

they will open up to it and not be afraid. Honestly, how many Gay couples do you see out in public holding hands each night? Very few, yet, there's 5-10% of couples who are GLBT and they just don't "show" it in public because of judgment. However, in the few places where it's something you can see regularly, people who are Straight are getting used to it and realize everyone deserves a right to share the term 'marriage' with someone else of their choice. But, yes, I agree - maybe not right now, but in time. They played the fear card about CHILDREN being taught to be Gay by the schools over and over and over - that was the repeat commercials that the Mormon church created. They best be careful - people might try and seek a ballot on them as a cult if they keep this crap up.

[deadlyaj]

10. totally agree but tought ot escape the political reality of our times

[TommyO]

14. Well then, quite frankly, FUCK the populace

The simple fact that a person's civil rights were up for a popular vote is an atrocity.

I know that supporters of marriage equality will continue to fight this, and I only half-tongue-in-cheek suggest that we launch a proposition in CA to ban divorce, and a second to prevent Mormons from marrying in the state. Turnabout is very fair play IMHO.

[No Elephants]

6. Obama put his feelings on the matter out there, when he spoke to the folks at MLK's

church and likened the gay struggle to the civil rights struggle. Them's powerful words in that setting. And brave in that setting, too.

But, I am so very, very sorry that our gay friends got slapped. This, federal election law and the 2006 mid terms are my next priorities. We all have to start giving to the DNC and gay rights organizations. I will start in January, making regular contributions to both.

[WillParkinson]

7. 2006?

Better hurry. You're a bit behind already. ;-)

[Divine Discontent]

9. you're right - that appearance where he said that was a big deal & one of the things that made me

think, I believe he won't throw us under the bus. And when I saw he put out a press release saying he was against prop 8 a few days before, that was nice, and of course the mention tonight in his speech seen by hundreds of millions around the world... it's a long road but we'll get there.

and let's work on the 2010 mid terms, we wiped the slate with the 06 one! :) it's late... I know

[ej510]

11. As stupid as it sounds we have change the wording to civil unions.

Ignorant people have to get used to gay people being married. We can change the wording later let's just get the gay people the rights first.

[Divine Discontent]

12. lol... sad but true.

I just saw that a point that I made a the Obama party at the state capitol turned out true - AA voters voted by a 70% margin to ban Gay marriage, when Caucasians voted to defeat the proposition... :( Such an ironic twist, as another DUer said, that here we have fought for someone just like Obama to become president, and yet, a majority of those very same people voted to remove rights for others. Latino's slightly voted just over half, in favor for the ban, but seeing such a huge forty point difference from the AA community really proves how bold it was for Obama to speak up about the judgment against GLBT people at the MLK forum, and other places - I really appreciate him saying "Gay and Straight" tonight when referring to getting along with each other in his acceptance speech.

[ej510]

13. Sadly alot of them were in family.

I had huge fights with them. I lolve women as much as any man, but gay people deserve equal protection under the law.

[MessiahRp]

17. What we need to do is change all marriages to civil unions

Make the legal procedure and documents you receive from the government a civil union, make a marriage certificate be the piece of paper issued by churches. Anyone can get married if their church issues marriage licenses. But to have legal status as partners you need to register as a civil union. This would apply to everyone who is already married as well. Send out civil union licenses. Then grant churches the right to issue marriage licenses. If those people really want a marriage license they can go back to their church to get one.

This makes the government's legal function in "marriage" to be just to recognize the union from a legal perspective in terms of rights.

Rp

[FlaGranny]

15. It's very sad.

My gay friends are very sad this morning. So many people have an irrational view on the subject, I think it will take a Supreme Court Decision to outlaw targeted discrimination by states. I hope President Obama gets to appoint several justices. Nothing will be more important than that.

[Ioo]

18. I am so crushed