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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:14 PM
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Poll question: So... after a stunning success, what do you think about Pelosi now?
I always said that we should reserve judgment until after Election Day... And now after two waves of Dem pickups AND a Dem president... I can only conclude that she did her job correctly (even though we may not have agreed with her every step of the way).

By the way, she looks fabulous today!

Anyway, what grade do you give Pelosi?
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:16 PM
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1. She did nothing.
Dems won in spite of her. President Obama won single handed.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:17 PM
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8. I agree. SHE didn't do shit. Obama, his team, and the Am. people did the work.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:16 PM
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2. A low "D"...
We need real leaders in Congressional Leadership....especially now.

She's not a leader.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:16 PM
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3. there are always going o be haters no matter what she does imho
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:16 PM
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4. Z-
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:16 PM
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5. Hopefully she will lose next election to a Dem more worthy
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:16 PM
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6. I didn't vote, but she just grates on my nerves. Sorry.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:18 PM
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10. Why didn't you vote?
Just curious.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:20 PM
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12. I didn't vote in the poll on Pelosi, not the General Election, for crying out loud!!!!!!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:17 PM
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7. She was right.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 12:19 PM by rucky
I never thought I'd say that, but now we're poised to do some real good. We have a united country, and the people standing in our way all this time have nothing but paranoid fantasies. Their anger cannot be interpreted as righteous in any way.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:17 PM
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9. If all you're looking at is pickups, not policy, then thank Chris Van Hollen, not Nancy Pelosi.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 12:19 PM by SteppingRazor
His time as chairman of the DCCC has certainly been a staggering success, as was Rahm Emanuel's chairmanship during the 2006 election.

As for Pelosi, I give her a B. I'd grade Harry Reid a bit lower.
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:19 PM
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11. When a twenty-something hottie Kristen Wiig plays you on SNL, you know you're hot stuff.
I still cannot believe that Nancy Pelosi is 69 years old.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:22 PM
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13. What the hell did she do? I can't think of anything to give her credit for.
As far as I'm concerned, Dems won their respective elections in spite of Pelosi, not because of her.

sw
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:28 PM
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14. I guess I mean--if we had gone the impeachment route... would we
be saying hello to president elect McShame?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:37 PM
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16. Yes, we would
Probably the biggest reason we won last night is because McCain's team simply had nothing to hit Obama with. that's why they started the Ayers crap, and the Wright crap, and the socialist crap. There wasn't anything to go after Obama on. Had impeachment been shoved through Congress, there would have been a big attack subject for McCain.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:22 PM
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32. Or, one could ask, would there even be a Republican party left?
How does allowing the government to be run by a criminal syndicate, and treating it as "normal", help ANY of us?

If the bush* administration had been held publicly accountable for all the outrages they have committed against our Constitution, how would that have advantaged the Republican party which aided and abetted in these crimes?

sw
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:28 PM
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15. She is Joe Lieberman in a dress. Kick her to the curb quick
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:38 PM
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17. This election was not her job.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:40 PM
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18. Depends on whether or not she delivers the votes to pass President Obama's agenda
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:41 PM
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19. Her job was to make it easy for a Dem Candidate...not cause a reason to lose
For that I give an A....a solid A...

it worked....
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:49 PM
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22. that's my take on it too. nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:11 PM
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30. She played it safe....even if the Trolls attacked her...she played it right..
The Oval was the Prize all along
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:36 PM
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36. Wanting Pelosi to stop pushing the Republican agenda and wanting her to stop taking
impeachment off the table does not make one a troll.

She has been nothing but unhelpful in putting forth a progressive agenda or even standing up to Bush.

Regards
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:44 PM
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20. I thought she looked hung over but fabulously made up today..
Her speech was putting me to sleep. She was really subdued like maybe she's not long for the world as house speaker???

What do you think she had to do with Obama's campaign? With this stupid Democratic theme of "working together with the republicans" I don't see her turning things around and putting things on the table now, but one can hope.

I hope she grows balls. Really big, big balls.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:48 PM
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21. She's a useless piece o' shit..
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 12:49 PM by Webster Green
I want to see the criminals in the chimp admin held accountable for their crimes, and she is too chicken-shit to do that.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:50 PM
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23. She needs to be replaced period. F
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jobendorfer Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:53 PM
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24. hopelessly, utterly, completely out of her depth n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:53 PM
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25. I voted for Sheehan as a message to Pelosi in this safe seat.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:54 PM
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26. She's in bed with Bush so a big fat F she gets.
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FamousMortimer Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:58 PM
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27. F
The word collaborator comes to mind.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:00 PM
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28. F Anytime the Dems in power help push a Republican agenda it's bad
FISA anyone? :thumbsdown:

Regards
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:00 PM
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29. As far as I can see, she didn't contribute anything to the wins.
:wtf:
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:15 PM
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31. the real test will be how the House does with a Democratic
president. So the jury is still out, AFAIC.

Her job, so far, has been to hold off the worst excesses of the Bush administration and not jeapardize what was shaping up to be a Democratic election cycle.

The blue dogs tied her hands as far as Bush was concerned, but two elections in a row with huge increases in the House is unusual and should be applauded.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:23 PM
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33. Pelosi proves that children are never grateful to adults.
She did what she had to do - not giving in to the pressure to launch impeachment procedings, and helping pass the bailout plan, both of which were a) clearly the right decision, and b) guaranteed to make her personally extremely unpopular.

Today we're seeing the fruits, in terms of a Democratic president and an economy that is merely teetering rather than toppling.

That took considerable courage, and while there is no chance that most DUers will ever giver her their thanks for doing so, they definately owe her them.

She hasn't been perfect, but I'd give her a decent B+.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:34 PM
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34. Are we supposed to be thankful for this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7792947

Because that's the type of thing that gets an "F" from me.

She is not owed gratitude from us.

Regards
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:36 PM
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35. most ineffective Democratic speaker in at least 50 years
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:38 PM
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37. As long as the voters keep electing her, she'll be in Congress, I guess
But there is no fucking way in Hell that she deserves another term as Speaker of the House. "Leadership" implies that you actually LEAD. And a jellyfish like Nancy is incapable of doing so.
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