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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:49 PM
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My GBLT Brothers and Sisters
I am at a loss of words, just wanted to let you know. I support you, I grieve with you. And the fight isn't over.

For Now :grouphug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:51 PM
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1. Folks here are saying Obama came out AGAINST Prop 8.
And people here still think he's a progressive.

Live and learn.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:53 PM
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2. He passively spoke on it, said not to pass it... but did not put any effort into it.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 03:53 PM by Ioo
so...

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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:54 PM
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3. Yes he did.
He was against taking away the civil, hell, the basic human rights of a people. The irony. We elect our first black President and slap every gay person in the face on the same night.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:58 PM
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4. Prop 8 is a Gay Marriage Ban. Coming Out Against THAT IS Progressive!
Folks here are saying Obama came out AGAINST Prop 8.


He did. Surely that is a GOOD thing.

And people here still think he's a progressive.

Live and learn.


???

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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:06 PM
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10. Some Obama quotes about GLBT issues
On Civil Rights: Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands?
The notion of gay marriage has been used to divide people in black churches. I pointed out that if there's any pastor here who can point out a marriage that has been broken up as a consequence of seeing two men or two women holding hands, then you should tell me, because I haven't seen any evidence of it. And if you think that issue is more important to the black family than the fact that black men don't have any jobs and are struggling in the inner cities, then I profoundly disagree with you.
Source: 2007 HRC/LOGO debate on gay issues Aug 9, 2007


On Civil Rights: We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions
It is my strong belief that the government has to treat all citizens equally. I come from that in part out of personal experience. When you're a black guy named Barack Obama, you know what it's like to be on the outside. And so my concern is continually to make sure that the rights that are conferred by the state are equal for all people.

That's why I opposed DOMA in 2006 when I ran for the Senate. That's why I am a strong supporter not of a weak version of civil unions, but of a strong version, in which the rights that are conferred at the federal level to persons who are part of the same sex union are compatible.

When it comes to federal rights, the over 1,100 rights that right now are not being given to same sex couples, I think that's unacceptable, and as president of the United States, I am going to fight hard to make sure that those rights are available.
Source: 2007 HRC/LOGO debate on gay issues Aug 9, 2007


More here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Archive/2007_HRC_LOGO_Barack_Obama.htm
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:00 PM
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5. Thank you Abby.
It's been a very bitter sweet day for me.

At this point I don't know if my marriage will remain legal or not.

I woke up proud of Barack winning but I feel like a second class citizen again.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:05 PM
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9. Ronny...I swear it will be legal
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 04:07 PM by DearAbby
from every corner of this country. I will not give up, nor will you and your Spouse. Today we grieve, tomorrow we dust ourselves off and get back into the fight.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:25 PM
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13. Thank you again so much ...
:loveya:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:07 PM
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11. I felt a little jealous of Whoopie Goldberg
She said she felt like she could put her suitcase down. I don't feel that way yet.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:25 PM
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14. Me too.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:00 PM
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6. Anything worth having is worth fighting for
My rights are worth having, ergo worth fighting for. In NC, it's a moot point -- yet. In CA, there's a chance right away. We'll pick a battle at a time, win it, move on, but never turn our backs. Hatred never sleeps and neither should we.

Thanks, DearAbby. :hug: right back.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:00 PM
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7. WE WILL FIGHT THIS!
:grouphug:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:03 PM
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8. Thanks
Just thanks.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:08 PM
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12. Civil Rights benefit all of us
If we can elect a Black president we can push for equality NOW. We just have to want it and work for it.

It dampens the impact of today knowing that so many can deny people basic freedoms the rest of us take for granted.
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