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Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 PM
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Curious - Why Is Fox Throwing Palin Under The Bus? |
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I can understand Newsweek now spilling the beans, but Fox? They are showing some pretty harsh shit about Palin as though they were trying to bury her, which is odd. Is it that Murdoch wants some Republican in 2012? If so, it shows who is really running the GOP.
Or, does Fox just recognize that this is all going to come out, so Fox is using its inside contacts to flush Palin down the toilet before Maddow and Olbermann do it?
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:20 PM
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1. They don't want her to 'forget her place' |
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Thinkin' she could run for president in 2012
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:23 PM
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The Rethugs will accept a woman as 2nd on a ticket, but I doubt many of them will take her as the lead presence. She played her part in this election--badly, horribly, but she did--and now they'd like to banish this crazed demon.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:21 PM
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2. My speculation - FUX tries to establish itself as a real news source |
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unbiased and all that good shit. Plus they probably have a horse in the race already like Newt the Muppet.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:29 PM
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20. I think it has more to do with the fact that Palin is such an idiot |
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even Fox can't ignore it. They don't want her ruining 2012 for them and it doesn't have much to do with her being a woman.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:46 PM
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26. Well that is a valid aspect I overlooked. Yes, she is truly an idiot. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 PM
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3. I suspect you are right about the 2012 issue. The old GOPers want Jindal or someone else. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:23 PM
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 PM
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4. Sir Rupert Knows Where His Bread Will Be Buttered |
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He's trying to do a favor for the Dems. McCain is history, but Failin is ascendant.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 PM
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5. Let them eat each other alive! |
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:23 PM
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7. Trying to take her out to clear the way for Romney? n/t |
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:23 PM
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28. Not necessarily Romney , simply whoever emerges as the favorite in 2012 |
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Palin is too much of a trainwreck to win the nomination, but she could be a very divisive and destructive force in the primaries.
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:29 PM
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31. Shit, she'd run away with the primaries with the fundies behind her. |
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But she'd go down in flames in the general. The corporate wing of the GOP is already planning for their candidate in the GE, and don't want him ambushed in the primaries by the fundies.
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Thu Nov-06-08 05:55 PM
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35. The fundies are a major force in the GOP, but they don't control it. |
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McCain wasn't exactly loved by the fundies, yet he still won the nomination.
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Thu Nov-06-08 09:38 PM
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36. He won by default, IMO. |
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Huckabee was the only fundie candidate, and he was too "liberal" on many issues... besides, he didn't have the funding. McCain was kind of the "least common denominator" candidate, and by the time it started looking like he could actually win the nomination the others had crashed and burned.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:24 PM
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9. It's called scapegoating. Palin is partly to blame. But ultimately, it's the CANDIDATE... |
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who determines how the campaign and its staff function. And it was the CANDIDATE who picked Palin. It was the CANDIDATE's staff who mishandled Palin from the start.
So was she a diva? Was she an idiot hillbilly? Maybe. Probably. But blaming HER for McCain's bad judgment and his staff's bad mishandling is a dipshit thing to do. Which of course means that it fits right in with the McCain campaign's handling of situations in general.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:27 PM
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16. That's it. If Palin is a moran, then people rejected her, not conservatism. |
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Thus, FOX will make her a moran. They'll do the same to Bush after he leaves. It was all because Bush was stupid, not because the ideology of the right is critically flawed and once again proven unworkable.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:24 PM
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10. They know it will come out |
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They are basically doing McCains bidding at this time. Palin is NOT the future of the GOP (I really wish she was), but even they are not that stupid.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:24 PM
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11. She is destroying the GOP |
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There is no way she will run in 2012. The Republicans might be evil, but they ain't stupid
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:39 PM
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34. They forget a couple of things |
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A) she already hates the media.. and thinks they hate her.. she'll use it as an advantage B) she's a "maverick" and an "outsider".. she'll do whatever the hell she wants C) she's like Bush.. only surrounds herself with people who tell her she's "awesome" D) she's like Bush.. has an inferiority complex, and wants to be the smartest person in the room E) ehh.. screw it.. she's just like Bush. F) There are about 50,000,000 idiotic rabid bible thumpers who love her for no other reason then because she's pro-life, and is *exactly* like them.
What this is going to do is split the base.. as I predicted about a month ago. I think she will run in 2012.. her ego won't let her not. She thinks it's McCain that was the reason they didn't get elected... 20,000 people showed up to see her.. not McCain. That inflates the ego even more.
She doesn't realize (and fiscal conservatives DO) that she has a cement ceiling. Far worse then Hillary ever did. She maxes out at about 40% tops.. and it goes down from there.
But.. I really think we'll see Palin in 2011 looking at '12.. the bible thumpers will insist on it. And I CAN'T WAIT
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 PM
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12. The Republican Establishment is asserting its power, as diminished as it is. |
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It is quite frankly a responsible move.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:30 PM
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22. Yup. The old gaurd slapping her down - they know |
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she is not the future of their party.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 PM
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13. Cannibalism - It's what they do best. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:26 PM
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15. Hey, wait a minute: I thought that's what WE did best! We're the party |
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that eats our own.
Hmmm ... the adjustment to winning will take a while for us.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 PM
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14. To keep the Republican party united. |
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They want the base to forget about her fast, before she can build a solid constituency. If the base is allowed to fall in love with her, she will further marginalize them and isolate them from the rational-thinking republican moderates who are already leaving the party. The only way they have a chance in 2012 is if they are united around a candidate that is actually electable.
I would love it if Republicans were allowed to fall in love with Sarah Palin, but the smart ones aren't going to let that happen.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:28 PM
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17. Ratings. Keeps the controversy going a bit longer. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:28 PM
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18. Palin is not only an idiot, but an unmanageable idiot. |
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She wouldn't let them prep her for the Couric interview. She tried to take over the campaign. She's dumb as a rock and too dumb to know it. She has a narcissistic personality disorder. She would be an impossible candidate, and wouldn't take direction once in power. Bush was just about as dumb, but he didn't come with the Igloo Trash persona, and he took direction. He was a reasonable figurehead; she would not be. They don't want her; she's useless, and I bet McCain had buyer's remorse by the second week.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:33 PM
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25. And she wanted to make a concession speech, too!! |
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:06 PM
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27. dingdingdingdingding! |
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:29 PM
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Taking down Palin allows FOX to blame the candidate (McCain) as well.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:30 PM
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21. It's because they need to blame somone but not the ideology |
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It's not the bankruptcy of conservative ideology that is to blame for Republican defeat, it's Bush! It's not the GOP's fault that Obama cruised to a landslide-- it's because McCain caught an unlucky break and campaigned during a tough year and the economy decided to crap out on America!
It's pushing the blame onto someone else. And since they LOOOOOVE scapegoating women in general, Palin's the automatic choice even if she's a Caribou Barbie. Plus, no one except for the really crazy fundies actually think a woman would ever be President or Commander-in-Chief, much less her.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:31 PM
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23. McCain picked her, throw him under the bus |
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McCain never should have picked her to begin with. I blame him.
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Wed Nov-05-08 10:32 PM
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24. The RNC is using FNC to give her the bum's rush out of Presidential politics |
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She'd be Alf Landon if she were nominated in 2012. The GOP doesn't want her to have even a ghost of a chance. One thing, though. Could she be vindictive enough to try for some payback? Could she engineer discontent among the fundies?
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:26 PM
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29. does palin get to return all her new suits? |
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as long as she has a receipt?
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:29 PM
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30. who else are they going to blame? |
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:34 PM
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32. The GOP is scared of what she could do to the party. |
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Frankly, it's too late. She's not going to go away quietly. The fundies still love her.
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Wed Nov-05-08 11:34 PM
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33. They want to blame their loss on ANYTHING but Obama's policies |
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and approach.
They will hang the entire election on a few fragile pins and hope that the country abandons the Dems when Faux's little straw men collapse.
Classic Puke approach.
Revolting creatures. They would eat their own young for a nickel.
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