Ron Paul Rally Photo!

[gmoney]

[Joe the Liberal]

1. LOL

And I thought McCain's turn out was bad. :rofl:

[Muttocracy]

2. does anyone know how his supporters voted? McCain vs. Obama vs. writein? nt

[anonymous171]

4. He may be the reason why McCain almost lost Montana.

[Muttocracy]

9. looks like he got 3% there - at least made it closer...

any other states where he was on the ballot? I wonder if he got write-ins in NV or if his supporters there voted for Barr or Obama.

[last_texas_dem]

51. He received a negligible amount of votes (.48%) as the candidate of the

"Louisiana Taxpayer's Party." I believe he was on the ballot and not a write-in, but, if so, I would have thought he would have performed better in a state like LA, even considering that he wasn't actively campaigning for pres. in the general election.

http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov:8090/cgibin/?rqstyp=elcms2&rqsdta=110408

[Why Syzygy]

79. He wasn't on the ballot here .. but one of his supporters told me she voted for Barr.

Might as well have gone to Mac.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

3. For some reason, I can't laugh at this.

[ellisD]

29. He's a good man, even if you don't agree with his views

he may be a Repub, but atleast he's not a corporate puppet or neocon facist

I personally admire the man alot for standing up to everyone in the Repub debates... while the rest of the pack all spewed their phony "war on terror" propaganda, he's the only one who had the balls to call them on their bullshit and tell it like it is: Muslims don't hate us for our freedoms, they hate us because for the last 4 decades we've been trying to interfere with their governments and dictate how they should live their lives according to our western ideals

he was also one of the few who saw this financial mess coming months back

[girl gone mad]

46. I actually gave him a small donation during the primaries.

Don't flog me. I got immense pleasure from seeing him in those GOP primary debates. He would make a factual statement, such as that we can't afford to police the world and run two wars while simultaneously cutting taxes, and every other candidate on the stage would roll their eyes and say he was crazy. I also think he showed the Republican fan base for what it is. Whenever he spoke of needing to get out of Iraq, the audience would boo him wildly.

You have to give him credit for being the only candidate who was talking about monetary policy. Even though his solutions were kooky, at least he was addressing the issue central to our current economic woes.

[Chulanowa]

47. However he is a "state's rights" libertarian

That is, be beleives the federal body of law is tyranny against the states and therefor wrong - but that State tyranny against their own citizens is A-OK.

He's an economic isolationist, a position that in addition to just plain being wrong, would also pretty much kill our economy and reduce us to a fuedal state - the libertarian fantasyland.

As for his integrity? He rails against earmarks with one side of his mouth, while begging for them for his own constituents with hte other. He decries the Republicans, yet still stays attatched to their funding machines and has never done anything to get in their way about anything.

While he does have some good positions, he's still no one I want near the white house

[Shoelace]

49. AND, he just warned "of great shift toward Global Govt. under Obama"! (link)

OMFG, I love big tents but after reading Libertarians for Ron Paul call Obama everything from a Fascist, Nazi, and whatever else they could dream up to slam him in other forums, I am not giving them any room in my tent, period!

Today's Ron Paul quotes from Infowars:

"I think McCain was obviously a back up candidate in case something happened where Obama didn't win, they'd have been satisfied with McCain, but they have been positioning Obama for a long long time."

"This started even before he announced he was running. Anybody who would have gotten that much favorable coverage for so long, you know that the plans are laid for him to be the individual that's going to be taking care of the corporate elite." the Congressman continued.

"Obama wouldn't be there if he didn't toe the line, and when the meeting starts on November 15th for the new monetary system, this could be the beginning of the end of what's left of our national sovereignty." Paul said, also warning that the global media are already hailing Obama as the world's leader.

sheese!!



http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2008/051108Paul.htm

[ellisD]

50. Council on Foreign Relations

has stated one of its goals is the formation of a North American Union, similar to the European Union... this has been in progress for many years now - Canadians are pissed about it, but of course the American public is generally unaware because its not given much attention by the mainstream media

Obama, McCain (and even Clinton) are all members of the CFR, so yes in that aspect it really didn't matter who won.

[Shoelace]

53. "it really didn't matter who won"?????????

geez, enjoy your stay here ellisD!lol.

[ellisD]

61. McCain and Obama are both CFR

so IN THAT ASPECT ALONE either way the next president would be a CFR member - Not personally saying that I believe it doesn't matter, just trying to clarify what Ron Paul was implying...

[Chulanowa]

57. And the reptilians and freemasons will push it through, right?

Sing with me now.

"And I know it's true, because Alex Jones tels me so..."

[ellisD]

63. it will be pushed through by public ignorance

and corporate greed. I personally don't care for Alex Jones as even when I agree with him on an issue, I don't agree with the way he distorts reality, blowing things so out of proportion he ends up hurting his cause... but there are plenty of articles (albeit long and boring) about various aspects of a plan for a "North American Community" on the CFR's website you can read for yourself http://www.cfr.org/ or you could try reading Canadian news once in a while...

a NAU might not be entirely bad, I mean look at the European Union, in some ways it has helped stabilize weaker member nations. But I don't see how you can argue that entering into a contract whereby you agree to a set of binding rules THAT SUPERCEED your own national laws ISN'T losing some sovereignty? Or adopting a common currency not under direct control of your own government?

Personally I don't lose sleep at night worrying about a totalitarian police state (atleast now that Bush is about to be thrown out on his ass lol) but I think it could have a significant impact on the quality of Americans standard of living - I mean think of all the jobs outsourced to other countries after trade restrictions were increasingly relaxed over the last 2 decades.. now imagine that any remaining restrictions were completely removed - chances are a North American Union would greatly benefit billion dollar corporations a hell of alot more then your average working American, and that is why this issue atleast deserves some media attention so it can be discussed openly, access it's impact might be, and let the CITIZENS decide if they want to join, not quietly phased into place through a series of treaties and executive orders while the masses are distracted by who's "Dancing With The Stars" tonight

[Chulanowa]

67. Ah yes.

Claim of independence.
Statement of conspiracy
Hysterical claim
Outlandish assertion
Statement that Americans are all dumb TV addicts. Except yourself

Yup, I think you touched all the bases there.

When people in government start talking about the idea, then I might stir myself to give a damn. Until then it's anothjer lobbying group with another wacky idea that will never be realized. You might as well be barking at me about La Raza's "plan" to return the southwest to Mexico.

[ellisD]

68. lol people in government

When people in government start talking about the idea, then I might stir myself to give a damn

So the meetings that Bush has had over the past 3 years with the Mexican Presidents Vicente Fox/Felipe Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper don't count as "government talking about the idea"? I mean it's even discussed on the white house website under the friendlier name "Security and Prosperity Partnership" http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/04/20080422-4.html

[Chulanowa]

72. I see three neighboring nations talking about working together on several issues

I'm sure that in the language you and Ron Paul share, this means a total dissolution of our borders and a surrender of sovereignty.

[ellisD]

73. so tell me what "working together on several issues"

means in the language that apparently you and George Bush now share... where helping America Vote means ushering in all those shiny Diebold voting machines and fun new regulations meant to disenfranchise minorities? Where leaving no child behind means taking away funding from education and focusing on standardized testing rather then knowledge comprehension or retention? Where spreading peace and democracy means conquering foreign nations and overthrowing their governments? Where a clear skies actually means relaxing emission laws? Where taking away civil liberties is a patriotic act?

Yeah, I'm a tinfoil-hat wearin nutjob for hearing Bush talk about the benefits of a North American "Partnership" and being suspicious that it might in fact have the complete OPPOSITE effect?

[Chulanowa]

74. Wow, that's quite a leap

Taking my pointing out that a non-binding agreement to help each other out is what's being spoken of on that page, and turning it into me wearign a brown shirt and rah-rah-ing diebold.

I think we're done here :)

[realisticphish]

64. crazy racist theocrat

sorry, but i can't feel one iota of sympathy for him.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

75. I always say the same thing about Hitler.

Once you get past his views, he's very likeable.

[anneboleyn]

76. he made the republican debates worth watching! He's a spunky dude.

[Chulanowa]

80. The prettiest pat in the pasture?

[Honeycombe8]

5. Awwwww. I sorta liked the man. He sure gave it a good try. You gotta give him that. nt

[Sannum]

6. He later spoke to reporters - Photo

[yeswecanandwedid]

7. I wonder how many votes those shoes cost him?

[Orrex]

8. Well, at least he has the courage of his convictions

or something...

[Muttocracy]

11. Moreso than most GOPers. nt

[Solomon]

10. Whew! This thread has me howling.

:rofl:

[Ecumenist]

12. I don;t find this funny. I feel sorry for him even though I am AA

and I was a bit more than a little creeped out by his associations and links to white supremacists, I honestly feel sorry for him. He looks so sad and deflated. :hug:

[Muttocracy]

14. it's an old photo - think it was him waiting for an event or something. nt

[JuniperLea]

56. You are a better human being than he is...

Good for you. That big heart of yours will serve you well.

[goodgd_yall]

78. I think he's just waiting

to have his photo taken? It's not really a sad Ron Paul at an empty rally. He usually looks deflated.

[Orrex]

13. 'Upon learning that his popular vote-count was 2, Ron Paul tries to figure out who the other one is'

And then he wonders if he might actually have voted twice by mistake.

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. He has good company:

Ralph Nader:



and of course Cindy Sheehan:

[Kingofalldems]

16. McCain lost --Get over it

[endthewar]

25. ...

:eyes:

[Freddie Stubbs]

31. I am quite happy with the results of the election

Are you?

[Kingofalldems]

54. You were ecstatic when conservative Sarkozy was elected IMO

Seemingly couldn't wait to post about it late on a Saturday night. But strangely absent during our historic victory Tuesday.:shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

59. Tuesday I was busy electing Democrats. We threw one great victory party here

I even got to meet Cynthia Nixon.

How about you?

I do not recall being 'ecstatic' about the results of the French election. What 'ecstatic' words or phrases did I use?

[Kingofalldems]

69. I love that story

[Freddie Stubbs]

70. You still didn't explain what you did on Tuesday

Were you out working to elect Democrats, or were posting on Internet message boards?

[Kingofalldems]

24. Oh yeah--You forgot to mention pariah Joe Lieberman

:shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

32. If you have some pictures of him being disappointed by a lack of a crowd, please post them

[mmonk]

33. Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it.

That's what the picture of the Cindy stand reminds me of.

[Freddie Stubbs]

36. "As long as America must choose, that long will there be a need and a place for the Democratic Party

Let us continue to plant, and our children shall reap the harvest. That is our destiny as Democrats."

RFK said that too. He was smart enough to know sticking the party was important.

[mmonk]

39. I have and I was an Obama delegate.

However, my soul is with Cindy on her issues. Maybe one day, there will be a place for people like me in the party for my years of support.

[Freddie Stubbs]

42. We are a big-tent party. There is room for you and people like Ms. Sheehan

Unfortunately Ms. Sheehan has chosen to leave the party and work against it rather then trying to change it.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

52. What an ass

Cindy got 17% of the vote. She ran on zero dollars and was not supported by a big party.

Shame on you.

Cindy has more guts than most people who go into battle and face an armed enemy. She is a kind and gentle woman who lost her son to a war made of lies.

Cindy is the heart of the peace movement.

[Freddie Stubbs]

71. Cindy is a nutjob who spreads lies about Democrats

She stated that "The Democrats are the party of slavery and were the party that started every war in the 20th century,started every war in the 20th century, except the other Bush debacle."

She is either ignorant of history or a liar. Which is it?

[BurtWorm]

17. There are almost as many people there as at a Free Republic rally.

:applause:

[codjh9]

18. There were tons of RP yard signs/stickers here in 'independent' TX... but I'm glad he had no

more of an impact than he did!

[Unsane]

19. weird choice of shoes

[Jennicut]

20. He looks dejected. He is a weird, strange man that is for sure.

[olkaz]

21. I oppose the spirit of this message.

There is **much** to be learned from what Ron Paul did across the country. He had people incredibly fired up.

I would not be surprised if some of his people end up getting hired by our candidates. They are sharp, sharp people.

If the Republicans would have given him a chance, it's hard telling how far he would have gone.

Disclaimer: I don't agree with any of his stances except for Iraq.

[Aloha Spirit]

23. I ignored Ron Paul until I started hearing a RP buzz from young people in my area...

I attribute it to his unpolished and earnest style and outsider (outside of his party) positions.

He deserves respect for mobilizing voters, but obviously he was outshined by that one.

[endthewar]

26. Young people like his foreign policy views as well as his Federal Reserve views

Ron Paul was the strongest critic against the Iraq War and other foreign policy issues in the Republican primaries. He also pointed out how the Federal Reserve has too much power, and this was all before the economic meltdown. Democrats also owe Ron Paul a small debt of gratitude because he helped expose McCain as a complete fraud on the economy during the Republican primaries.

[ellisD]

30. and his strong defense of Civil Liberties!

speaking as a young person (27) I can say that in addition to his stance on the war in Iraq/war on "terror", and his economic views, one of the most appealing factors was his Defense of the Constitution and a call for the restoration of the civil liberties King George took from us.

[Left Is Write]

43. He's not in favor of my having liberty and autonomy over my own body.

[olkaz]

44. That's one of many things he is wrong on.

But like I said, it will be worthwhile to study his methods and see if some of the people on his campaign could be convinced to come over.

They did some ruthlessly effective things with the internet (like a million bucks in a day?), and their supporter's devotion was at least as rabid as Obama's. Maybe more. Not as many, but man did they believe in the guy.

Anyway, I think we should recognize that.

[Left Is Write]

45. I certainly agree with studying his campaign methods and strategies.

I only intended for my post to be a response to the civil liberties post.

[realisticphish]

66. here's the thing, though

he didn't come up with some amazing new strategy (other than just riding internet activism). He just appealed to a lot of mildly crazy people, who convinced others that he was a good alternative :shrug:

[Ilsa]

65. That is very true. He's my congresscritter. I don't think he is FOR anything. nt

[iamthebandfanman]

22. now thats just sad. seriously, thats sad. haha. n/t

[galaxy21]

27. I don't think he held a rally and no one showed up

He's still incredibly popular, even now.I'm not sure what that picture is.


I'll be honest: He's a kook with questionable associations, but I did like how he basically pointed out to everyone at the debates the problems with the republican party. And they really couldn't argue with him, since he was spot on.

[sweetpotato]

28. another old white guy.

I agreed with some of his ideas, but it wasn't enough to support him.

[BuyingThyme]

34. In all seriousness, now that the election is over, we can make good use of Ron Paul.

He gets Neocon imperialism much better than most if not all elected Dems.

[AlCzervik]

35. i met Ron Paul people when i saw Obama in Oct of 07, they were outside with their signs

and really they were nice but misguided college kids and they weren't acting like assholes. Here they are

[SwampG8r]

37. ron paul is a good man

he votes as he sees the constitutionality of each vote
he has a conscience
he is a decent man

[Recursion]

60. Seconded

There are tons of radio interviews with him you can find online. It's well worth listening to.

[Zombie2]

38. I have a lot of respect for Ron Paul.....

Although, I've lost a lot of respect for some of his supporters I know personally, over the way they've conducted business the past couple months.

Nader's a different story, I lose more and more respect for him each election.

(edit: that's a sad photo)

[JeffreyWilliamson]

40. Yup, very sad since we all know Ron Paul's a FREAKIN SAINT!

I understand why some people here like him--he does try to vote the constitution and all, and he hates the Iraq mess, but really guys:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=weather/hurricane&id=6428478

Please have a look at principled Ron Paul's handiwork above.

It's his job to represent the people in DC, but US Representative Ron Paul voted "no" to a disaster recovery aid package that would help his devastated district. Congressman Paul's district is a large area along the Gulf Coast, right where Hurricane Ike made landfall.

Edited to add text from article.

[SoCalDem]

41. Match made in heaven

[YOY]

48. What? Was there a Magic the Gathering Tournament going on at the same time???

Nice that he tried to shake up the pubs. Wish he had a decent philosophy behind it instead of severely idealistic idiocy.

[Bobbie Jo]

55. Ok....that's funny.... in a sadistic kind of way

:rofl:

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

58. Poor Ron Paul. He fought the good fight. Most of his ideas are crazy, but he believes in them...

He's a real Maverick IMO...

[mokawanis]

62. I like him, but that photo made me lol

[goodgd_yall]

77. Looks like a photo sitting not a rally

in all honesty.

[Liberal In Texas]

81. And just off camera...

(Alex blowing hard...)

[RollWithIt]

82. I actually agree with a small percentage of his views, and I think he's a good man...

He is at least intellectually honest. He says what he thinks, he sticks with his viewpoint. He doesn't just make things up or play dirty politics. I respect him though I'm not a supporter.

Also, I believe that photo was taken several weeks ago. I saw it several weeks ago. And I don't think it's fair to characterize it as bad. Sometimes we are all alone, and I find it more sad than funny. Keep in mind, Paul is one of the few Republicans who have called for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. On some issues, he's not that different from the left of our party.