I Was Raised By Mormons

[QueenOfCalifornia]

And yes. They are batshit crazy and willfully fucking stupid.:crazy:

I escaped the cult. I live in CA. I voted NO ON H8.

But I can tell you this - they are absolutely convinced that they are the only people who are going to heaven. And, you may want to know... THEIR HEAVEN is special. They get to become GODS of their own planets. I shit you not. When I learned that little tidbit in seminary I decided to discount everything they ever told me.

There are a lot of self loathing gays in that cult. They project that hate on the world. Oh, and for the people who want to defend the Mormon Cult and flame me... I don't care.

[rucky]

1. Get a Brain, Mormans!

[QueenOfCalifornia]

2. Nice play on the Moran theme!

:rofl: The moran guy gave us such a gift!

[TechBear_Seattle]

14. The Book of Mormon is filled with Morons

In Ether 7:6, there is mention of a "Land of Moron"
In Ether 11, we meet Moron, son of Etham, who became King of the Jaredites.

Then there is the angel Moroni, who showed Joe Smith where to find the Golden Plates.

[Arugula Latte]

44. *spray*

:spray: :rofl:

[Hope And Change]

3. I see.I always had a good picture of the Mormons.I saw them as openminded and goodhearted but...

I guess I was wrong.

[marshall]

5. Ask Reid

He's one, so they say.

[Hope And Change]

6. Really?I didn`t know that.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

10. Yes...

Harry Reid is a Mormon. He is banking on getting his own planet.

One thing I can say for them - they do not buy into the "Earth is 6,000 years old." they believe in a hybrid of creationism and evolution - that it is Gods doing... evolution that is.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

7. Some of them

are goodhearted. But I haver accused one of being "open minded." They are smug. They truly are smug. Why? They are going to the special Heaven and they believe that their leader talks directly to god and takes his marching orders directly from that same guy. Sound familiar? It is dangerous. But I think delusional thinking is dangerous.

[yardwork]

38. So open minded and good hearted they took away my human rights.

Very generous of them.

[grace0418]

43. My brother starred in a show filmed in Utah. Many of the crew and a few castmembers

were Mormon, so he got quite an education on the religion while that show was filming. One cast member wrote a book about being abducted as a young girl by an older man who wanted to marry her. She was brainwashed and abused by him. That kind of thing is almost tolerated and definitely swept under the rug so much that he got 30 days plus probation. 30 days for kidnapping and sexually abusing a young girl. The more he told me, the sicker it made me.

[JohnMcCant2008]

4. After I hear "magic underwear", I stop listening to anything else from their self-righteous mouths..

[Left Is Write]

18. Well, THEY don't actually say "magic underwear."

That's the outsider term. ;)

[sasha031]

8. 2 mormons dressed in suits came to my door once

of course wanting to recruit me into their flock. My neighbor was a self loathing gay man and sent them.
he told me they considered native Americans devils, pretty sad and a creepy experience.

[TechBear_Seattle]

16. If you want to see how much a Mormon missionary can be...

Rent the comedy movie "Orgazmo." If romantic drama is more your thing, try "Latter Days."

[ipfilter]

9. Do they really teach you to tie your hand to the bed

so you won't touch yourself at night? Do they really burn their "sacred undergarments"? I've read a lot about Mormonism and some of the stuff just seemed too far out there to be true.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

23. I have never

heard of tying the hand to the bed thing. They are buried in the sacred undergarments - AKA "magic thunderpants" which was my term for them as a kid. :P -

No religious crap is "true." People have been trying to explain why we are here since we could string a sentence together. Man created God as an explanation.

Here is what the underwear looks like:

[LittleApple81]

11. I don't believe in ANY religion. I judge people by their behaviors. And I have nothing good to say

about Mormons. They forbid their brethen to ingest poison (caffeine, cigarettes, etc.) and do not approve of gambling, but have no qualms in owning huge portions of organizations that profit from selling these obnoxious poisons to the rest of the population.

I also have worked with Mormons and, even though it is a very small sample of the Mormon population, they left me with a bad opinion of their personalities. Passive aggressive and controlling bunch, with handsome faces and terrible policies.

[Left Is Write]

20. They are not forbidden from ingesting caffeine.

They can have as much coke and pepsi as they want. They are, however, forbidden from ingesting caffeine in the form of coffee or tea.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

31. Wrong

At least all the time I was in the church - No caffeine.

[Left Is Write]

32. I live in a heavily Mormon-populated area. Heavily.

I am not wrong. Coke and Pepsi are a-okay.

Some will still choose not to have them based on their interpretation of the Word Of Wisdom, but there is no prohibition against caffeinated soda. I've lived near, worked with, and socialized with these people for the past eight years.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

33. Things have changed then

because as a kid we had to sneak the stuff and yes we did. My Mother made a pot of coffee every morning too. She had to have it. :)

[Left Is Write]

36. I don't doubt that things have changed.

I grew up in an area heavily populated by Catholics and Lutherans, and Mormons were something of an oddity. I remember when it seemed to outsiders that the rule was simply "no caffeine" period.

Now I'm surrounded by "temple worthy" Mormons who drink caffeinated soda, are allowed to drink caffeinated soda, but who still follow strictly the no coffee/tea/alcohol/cigarettes prohibitions.

[Union Thug]

12. no doubt. what kind of pathology motivates these people to believe this crap?

God of your own planet? Instead of believing this nonsense, why not get some psychiatric care? Full disclosure - I'm an atheist and think the whole religious world is DING CUCKOO.

[Arugula Latte]

47. It's of course ludicrous, but then so are most religious beliefs.

e.g. "virgin birth" -- Yeah, good cover-up for a knock-up there, Mary. "God did it." Hoooo kay.

[Symarip]

13. They wear magical underwear

And until the NCAA came down on BYU in the 70s, they believed blacks came from a Mars.

I can't make this shit up.

[Shanti Mama]

28. I think they changed 'the truth' about blacks

when a big Salt Lake businessman wanted to buy the New Orleans Jazz (now Utah Jazz). The president of the church had a 'revelation' (a semi-annual event) that from then on blacks were OK. Blacks still had had the mark of the devil on them up to that point, as the church is never wrong, but from that date forward everyone had to change their mindset.

They have lots of kids because of the many souls floating around the earth waiting to inhabit their 'temples' (the body) so they can then attain everlasting life on their own planets.

[paparush]

15. I read the Title as "I Was Raised By Morans"

I'm CLEARLY spending too much time on DU!
;-)

[QueenOfCalifornia]

35. Yep...

I was raised by Morans too.

They were republicans and racists. What a shocker.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. It's True. They Are The Only Ones Going To Heaven.

I saw it on South Park.

[Pendrench]

19. Speaking of Mormons, have you seen the documentary "New York Doll"?

It's the story of Arthur "Killer" Kane the former New York Dolls bass player, who became a Mormon.

http://www.onepotatoproductions.com/NewYorkDoll/synopsis.html

[jonnyblitz]

27. I saw it awhile back. He became a librarian in their "geneology

library". he died about 4 years ago.

[southpaw]

21. Mormons may be 'nice' people

I've met several who are quite 'nice', but all are smug, as you point out.

Beyond that, they are outpaced in the 'batshit crazy' department only by Scientologists.

From there, it's just a matter of degrees between these clearly false religions founded by known charlatans (Smith, Hubbard) and all the other religions which are equally false, but whose founding figures are less historically verifiable con-artists.

[GoneOffShore]

34. There is a huge difference between 'Nice' and 'Good'

[QueenOfCalifornia]

42. Wont get a debate

from me on this one.

I can't take any form of religion. None. It has been a sore point between me and my husband. He isn't religious but he clings to his childhood teachings from Catholicism. He thinks I am terrible for telling my kids that God is and invention of man. :eyes: I try never to bring it up here...

[eshfemme]

22. Tell me about it. My dad's a Mormon. They got him in his teens

My paternal grandparents made a fatal error in trying to forbid him from pursuing his interest in a cult and with my dad's contrary nature (that plus the fact that he was a fucking teenager and teenagers can be so fucking stupid), meant that it pushed him further into Mormonism.

Yeah, my sisters and I are just lucky that we grew up in NYC where we get all sorts of exposure to different cultures and it's hard to remain close-minded there. If we'd been raised somewhere like in a gated community or in Utah, it'd be a scary thing to contemplate.

Oh yeah, try to get an explanation from them on why they fucking stopped practicing polygamy (although the splinter sects still do). It's just fucking mental gymnastics. From what I remember, my Sunday school teacher basically claimed that even though church law is paramount, we still need to obey the law of the state. But it sounded stupid to me because state law sure wasn't an excuse for the religious people who claim that it infringes on their religious rights-- especially when polygamy was such a basic tenet of Mormonism that it's a fucking reward in Heaven. It was just retarded.

About the repressed gayness in the Church-- I didn't get a sense that there was any straightforward policy on homosexuality. But there was definitely a strong patriarchy set up in the Church, which means that gender roles are especially important. I remember asking why women in the church couldn't wear pants, albeit nice formal ones, when they attend church and I got an inane answer like "it's the only way to show respect towards God." I am more of the opinion that the reason that the Mormons blew so much of their own parishioners' money on Prop 8 was to get some street cred with the other fundies in a lame-assed attempt at being accepted into the "in" crowd. Seriously, like the Mormon church is the new transfer kid trying to get in good with the cool kids. Just such a fucked up and cynical use of their money that ends up disenfranchising people for the sake of something petty.

So yeah, no flaming from me here.

[gypsylud]

24. Who cares what they believe?

Who cares about their theology? Who cares what their heaven is like? It’s metaphysical. It's no wilder than any other Belief System (or BS for short) that any other religions profess. Really.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

26. I think

all of the gay people and families and friends of gay people give a shit.

When their idiotic belief system takes rights away from a person - I care.

[jonnyblitz]

30. I care they believe my rights should be denied and actively

pursue that effort. sorry. :shrug:

[gypsylud]

41. their metaphysical belief in heaven has nothing to do with that

dising metaphysical beliefs goes nowhere. what matters is the practical BS they carry in their heads. Outlooks and ideas that can formulate change here on earth.

[yardwork]

40. The Mormons spend millions of dollars to take my rights away. Now I'm interested in them.

The Mormons now have my undivided attention.

[Dappleganger]

25. My mother left her Mormon family at the age of 18.

As soon as she graduated from high school, she got on a bus to Memphis and never looked back.

She was the youngest of 12 children in a sharecropper's family (my grandfather died when she was 6), and they had to go on welfare. THEY lived on the same side of the railroad tracks in Sledge, MS as the blacks...yet still considered themselves 'better.' When she left they never wanted to talk with her again.

They put my mother on the roll of apostates and year after year, Mormon missionaries were sent to our home to confront her with her 'sin' and try to convince her to return. All the while, no one in her family would talk with my mother. Her mother never acknowledged my sister and I as her grandchildren.

The media and the Mormon church want you to believe that they are all about family and being good people, but growing up we learned very differently. If you turn your back on their beliefs they are hateful, conniving, deceitful and will cut you out of their lives.

The 'magic underwear' is nothing compared to the vengeful nature of the Mormon church and what it teaches.

[ContinentalOp]

29. I was friends with some nice CA mormons in high school. That is until they started using the N word

around me. To this day they are the only white people I have ever heard use that word in a non-ironic way.

[yardwork]

37. I read Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer.

Wow. I recommend it to anyone interested in learning more about this cult.

[nancyr]

39. They are a cult.

I lived among Mormons in southern Idaho for years, and they can be identified by the smug look of superiority on their faces. People have the feeling that they are just another mainstream Christian religion, but these people are just plain brainwashed. I find them scary.

[AlCzervik]

45. My friend Donna was born and raised in SLC, she an ex mormon no living in Ca.

[CatBO]

46. This is why Mitt Romney will NEVER be elected..

If he were to run for President in a general election, all the craziness of this cult would come streaming out.

I turned my back on my evangelical Christian upbringing but there's one thing that they preached that I believe: Mormonism is a crazy cult and you can't trust them. And southern preachers ALL preach this. I don't know how it is today in churches, but 10-15 years ago, Christians in the south distrusted Mormons immensely.

If Romney ever makes it to the general election, he will lose the south. I remember in the primaries hearing a preacher say that he didn't know what he would do if Romney went to the GE, because for the past 3 decades he'd taught his parishoners to fear Mormons as crazy cult members, and he just couldn't tell them that they weren't suddenly...

[bridgit]

48. My husband's uncle was a bishop in the church, and ran the genealogical dept...

for decades. Retiring his tenure in the UC system after years of Prof'ing there, he & his wife lived a life of elder concerns ending up with a few health issues. He went to the church and was told in no uncertain terms that after 40+ years with them, there were no services they could offer that would lend assist. He was flabbergasted! And hubby's dad, who believes in a creator but foists no religion on anyone; thinks The Mormon Church are a bunch of lying thieves! A better thing now uncle receives a pension from the real world. Cause the fake/phony Mormon world only cares about themselves.

hubby loves his uncle, but has had a defined impression for some time that if you're not able to work and provide fresh dollars in the form of tithe they'll have little long term relationship with you. It is a religion of gibberish pulled from/then based upon excerpted passages of The Old Test; the 'good ones' or so they think, the ones that establish supremacy, ascendancy of one group over another; very little if at all to do with loving your neighbor, coveting, or laying down with your wife's sister, cousin, etc

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

49. I wrote this a while back. It bears repeating.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2119025#2119602

Let me tell you of when a pair of Mormon "missionaries" came to MY door.

They started with the standard stuff about how wonderful this religion is and what a difference it made in their lives, blah, blah... standard proselytizing stuff. Then went on to talk about the "Indians = Jews" thing, which I thought amusing, but shrugged it off. Just some different mythology.

Then they went on to explain the "Mark of Cain" thing. Yep. Black people are that way because God's curse on Cain was making him black.

That bit was supposed to have been excised from Mormon canon -- but, if they suspect a favorable reception to it, they WILL use it.

The LDS can kiss my fat pasty-white liberal atheist butt.

(The thing is, I am very Nordic-looking for Brazilian standards. Quite white, blue-eyed, tall, fat, with a foreign accent. I've lost count of people who approached me hoping for friendly validation of their racism, certainly based on my looks.)