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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:44 PM
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ABC News: "The knives are out and Palin is the one who is getting filleted"
Strains Between McCain and Palin Aides Go Public
Report: Palin's Wardrobe Is to Be Audited by GOP
By KATE SNOW
Nov. 6, 2008



http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=6196407&page=1

Now that the defeated team of Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have gone their separate ways, the knives are out and Palin is the one who is getting filleted.

Revelations from anonymous critics from within the McCain-Palin campaign suggest a number of complaints about the Alaskan governor:

Fox News reports that Palin didn't know Africa was a continent and did not know the member nations of the North American Free Trade Agreement -- the United States, Mexico and Canada -- when she was picked for vice president.

The New York Times reports that McCain aides were outraged when Palin staffers scheduled her to speak with French President Nicholas Sarkozy, a conversation that turned out to be a radio station prank.

Newsweek reports that Palin spent far more than the previously reported $150,000 on clothes for herself and her family.

Several publications say she irked the McCain campaign by asking to make her own concession speech on election night.

The tension is likely to continue or get worse. Lawyers for the Republican National Committee are heading to Alaska to try to account for all the money that was spent on clothing, jewelry and luggage, according to The New York Times.

Reports of agitation between the two camps bubbled up in the final weeks of the campaign as Barack Obama began pulling away and the GOP duo was unable to regain the momentum.

But those reports are no longer in the rumor stage as McCain loyalists are now blasting away at the Alaska governor, who was a favorite of the Republican right during the campaign, but was cited in numerous polls as a reason why many Americans wouldn't vote for the Arizona Republican.

Perhaps the most dangerous allegation for Palin are reports in The New York Times and Newsweek that when she was urged by McCain adviser Nicole Wallace to buy three suits for the Republican convention and three suits for the campaign trail, she went on the now-infamous shopping spree at swank stores like Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus.

A Republican donor who agreed to foot a majority of the expenses was stunned when he received the bill, Newsweek reported. Both the Times and Newsweek report that the budget for the clothing was expected to be between $20,000 and $25,000. Instead, the amount reported by the Republican National Committee was $150,000.

That wasn't the whole tab, however, according to Newsweek. The magazine claims that Palin leaned on some low-level staffers to put thousands of dollars of additional purchases on their credit cards. The national committee and McCain became aware of the extra expenditures, including clothes for husband Todd Palin, when the staffers sought reimbursement, Newsweek reported.

There is one comment in particular from a McCain aide that guaranteed to heighten friction between the two camps. The angry aide described the Palin family shopping spree to Newsweek as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast."

It's unclear how much McCain knew about the clothing debacle. Reports suggest that he was kept out of the loop for fear that he would not approve.

Both Newsweek and The New York Times say McCain and Palin had little contact with each other.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:46 PM
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1. It's not even like Christmas.... it's like Hannukah
Every day you get a little present. :)
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:07 PM
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72. Lol!
Love it! :hi:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:48 PM
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2. If only they dig a little deeper and gut the entire Christian right out of their party.
I might start to have an iota of respect for them eventually.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:55 PM
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12. +1
The sane republicans need to take their party back so we can have respectable discourse again
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:59 PM
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16. Fallwell is dead. Dobson will croak soon enough.
Their ties are soon to be severed and they've seen the kind of idiotic bullshitery that they bring to the table.

Sure they delivered the voters at first and took the ringing endorsements of their fleecing cults, but then they wanted more. They wanted the actual reigns of power. Power in their hands is a scary thing.

Let them tear themselves asunder and hopefully the REAL fiscal conservatives will rise up from their ashes. Them I can stomache.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:26 PM
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43. Other than the discourse, we're in no hurry for that, are we?
Unless they change as you suggest, they're in for a VERY long losing streak!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:56 PM
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14. The Faux christians who spout
their religion of hate and lies.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:48 PM
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3. So much incompetence and so little time to comment on it all. N/T
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:48 PM
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4. Palin 2012! = 40+ Blue States. nt
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:07 PM
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57. I just don't think we're that lucky.
A Palin candidacy in 2012 would be so incredibly awesome for us, it's true. But there are too many in the Republican Party who know that Step 1 to rebuilding their strength is to toss her like a damned hot potato and do everything they can to make sure she is never heard from again.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:10 PM
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73. Archbishop Caput in Denver stated:
Real Catholics, those that attend Mass weekly, didn't support Ombama. I saw him and he is a little guy that appears to full of himself. He struck me as as having a Napoleon complex. His remarks are analogous to the Republicans that if you don't agree with their policies then you are not a patriotic American.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:50 PM
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5. It just keeps getting funnier.
And more bizarre. And it speaks volumes about the shallowness of the Republican bench that these two were the best they could produce.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:04 PM
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24. McCain -could- have done it
If he had run as, you know, John McCain, and not "Right-Wing Troll #12"
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:39 PM
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46. I really don't think so.
There was really no one even in a relatively long list of potential running-mates that could have done what McCain's running mate needed to do: secure the base AND bring in lots of right-center indies AND bring in racist dems (especially women) AND inject some youth and energy into a faltering campaign. They got two out of four, which probably seemed pretty good to them at first.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:50 PM
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6. She spent two months filleting Obama
Let the RW piranhas eat her alive
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:41 PM
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49. Filleting takes skill and precision -- she was just hacking away with a chain saw.
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ipfilter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:52 PM
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7. Someone has the makings of a best seller.
This is one tell all book I'll read from cover to cover.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:52 PM
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8. This is like a leak in the dike... at first it trickles, then it pours, then the dike gives way...
The entertainment value of this could not be over-estimated.

Repubs turning on Repubs and airing it all for the public to see... does it get any better than this?
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:25 PM
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78. Yep. Get the popcorn.
This will be very entertaining indeed :)

:popcorn:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:53 PM
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9. Well, they need a scapegoat. And Palin made herself an easy target.
This is the one thing I've always said about her - she has a GIGANTIC ego.

She won't take advice. She won't (or can't) restrain herself, either politically or personally.

And of course, she has a major problem with excessive entitlement.

The nation dodged a BIG bullet with that one.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:05 PM
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Not filleting her so much as Field Dressing her.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:53 PM
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10. No wonder they wouldn't let her
give a speech at the concesssion party. They were too pissed at her unauthorized spending sprees..just like she did in Alaska..on other people's thousands.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:02 PM
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22. And also why McCain allowed himself to be used by SNL for that QVC skit
Tina Fey's Palin is exactly the same as the real one, and McCain was getting the first salvos off before the rest of the RW chew her up.

Good riddance.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:19 PM
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38. And the fact that McCain went along with the idea of Palin campaigning behind his back
shows that he was over her shit and just content to run out the clock.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:44 PM
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51. Yeah, well, mccainites unleashed
that monster on the lower 48..now it's up to Alaskans to deal her justice.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:05 PM
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66. When has the VP candidate ever given a concession speech? This story tells me Palin never
watched national election returns
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:54 PM
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11. I want to feel sorry for her, but she was so goddamned nasty to Obama
that she deserves everything she gets.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:48 PM
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54. Yes she does because if the election
had been stolen again then would be spreading her cancer all over America.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:17 PM
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76. I hear you. Viciousness has a way of coming back around. I don't feel sorry
for her rude, manipulative, power-hungry, narcissistic ass either.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:56 PM
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13. but... but... she's SO frugal!
:rofl:
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:57 PM
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15. McCain vowed to cut "pork" but he couldn't even do it in his own campaign.
he let Palin loose with donors hard earned money to spend how she saw fit. That is the way she runs Alaska, and of all people, he thought she was a "maverick" just like him and was the best choice to "shake up washington". Imagine how money and power crazed she would have been as VP. She would have cleaned out every high end clothing store in D.C.!!!

McCain, you got played!! hehehe!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:08 PM
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58. Many silk purses for that sow's ear
Can't you just see the GOP Fashion Police showing up in Wasilla..

"Ok Girlie, let's have a look-see in that closet" :rofl:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:59 PM
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17. Who picked her, John?
She's a nasty, ignorant woman who had no business being picked in the first place, so in addition to filleting Sarah, I suggest they also fillet those responsible for getting her on the ticket.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:04 PM
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25. Per the New Yorker
McCain had little choice in the matter. Billy Kristol and a few other Palin-worshiping fanboys from the National Review and Weekly Standard told Mac he couldn't have Moldy Joe under any circumstances. The fanboys all had the hots on for the Moose Princess and basically shoved her down McCain's throat. Thinking with the little head is never a good idea.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:27 PM
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44. I'll gladly donate some knives to assist in the filleting of Kristol, Lowry, etc.
And I'll keep donating until there is no more filleting to be done. :evilgrin:

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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:39 PM
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47. I have always wondered if this is the case. McCain barely seemed to know her or like her
Kristol -- that figures.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:16 PM
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75. So the word "maverick" means some kind of pussy, right?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:06 PM
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31. I really don't think he did.
Sure he acted like he did, but like everything they do, it was scripted bullshit chosen by their "brilliant" tacticians.

All the more reason to write both of them off. One as a doddering relic who once sacrificed incredibly and the other as a wholesale idiot that represents what their party has become: the idiots of Jesusland.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:59 PM
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18. Palin is toast. Bring her on in 2012 - can't wait!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:59 PM
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19. Now that she's being filleted, maybe Sarah will do some sole searching.
;-)
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:06 PM
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30. Fillet of Sole perhaps?
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:02 PM
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69. You need a soul before you can do any searching.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:02 PM
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70. You need a soul before you can do any searching.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:00 PM
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20. Another example of real life being as entertaining as fiction, now a comedy but not a tragedy.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:01 PM
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21. Moose Princess gets field-dressed!
In both senses of "dressed" :rofl:

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:02 PM
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23. aren't there only 3 nations in North America?
Canada, the US and Mexico? South of Mexico, is Central America.

I think the Caribbean is not part of North America, right?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:06 PM
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29. Well, technically speaking...
Canada, the United States, and Mexico ARE the bult of North America. But all of Central America is also part of the North American continent, as are the Caribbean Islands, and even a portion of Denmark (Greenland)
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:04 PM
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26. Good riddance to her
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 01:07 PM by nam78_two
One of my few remaining fears has been that this Bush clone will return in 2012 with just enough polish to squeak by and get the enthusiastic support of fundie theocrats and we will be stuck with Bush 2. If the McCain camp ends up filleting her that will very slightly make up for having inflicted this moron on the nation in the first place-thanks for that John :eyes:.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:05 PM
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27. I guess you can only find the REALLY nice clothes in "fake America"!
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:05 PM
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28. I didn't know the prank was scheduled by staffers
"McCain aides were outraged when Palin staffers scheduled her to speak with French President Nicholas Sarkozy, a conversation that turned out to be a radio station prank."

:rofl:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:08 PM
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32. The Comic Duo Spent Three Days Cajoling Staff For the Interview
And then they fucked Caribou Barbie good.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:15 PM
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36. So that's what they were talking about. I'd heard it took 4 days
for the radio station guys to get it scheduled. That was on some cable news station and I never heard anything else about it.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:32 PM
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45. Yea - sounds like the idiocy was a team effort.
Truth is - anyone can fall victim to a prank like this. For me, the telling factors are how her staff did zero checking, and how Palin was so gullible as to finally forcing the pranksters to tell her it was a joke (even after the Nailin Palin comments).
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magdalena Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:09 PM
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33. So these assholes obviously knew what an incompetent idiot
Failin was from the get-go (durrr...what's Africa?), yet they still supported her as a viable VP candidate putting our entire nation at risk? Country first my ass. Fuck you fucking repukes - may your party die a miserable death.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:13 PM
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34. LOL
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:14 PM
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35. Wasilibillies
:rofl:
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:18 PM
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37. MMMMMM . . . delicious!
I can't get enough!

:evilgrin:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:20 PM
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39. "The two had little contact with each other"? BULLSHIT!
They were on stage day after day, gig after gig together, traveling together. Are we really expected to believe they sat at opposite ends of the "straight talk express"? Sorry, not believable.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:41 PM
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48. Now that you mention it...this whole "feud" may just be a stunt
To make people believe the "real GOP" is distancing itself with the "fake GOP" so that the "real GOP" can get ready for 2010 and 2012. Now, which faction--McCain's or Palin's--will emerge as the "real GOP" after all this, and which one will end up under the bus?
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:21 PM
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40. The Fundies are behind her
the political Repubs are not.

I wish them much luck in splitting their party to hell and gone.

I just don't want to pick up the scraps. Leave them lie, Dems, leave them lie.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:24 PM
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41. Just sitting back, enjoying the show
:popcorn:
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:26 PM
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42. This is the first battle in the GOP civil war: Conservative Intellectuals 1, Fundie Morons 0
The elite of the party know that it is the I-Don't-Know-Shit-And-I'm-Proud-Cause-I-Love-Jesus-And-Hate-Gays wing that destroyed their "permanent" majority. This wing is personified by Bush - the worst president in history, and perhaps even more so by Palin - which is no small accomplishment on her part.

Sit back and enjoy the knife fights for the next few months. This is the first score, as Fox News has been sicked by its bosses onto the Palinites as they release the whole Africa attack (which, btw, is so incredibly stupid I have a hard time believing it). Similarly, O'Reilly was doing his duty attacking Palin on his radio show with the "towel" moment.

No matter who comes out on top, the Republican Party will emerge as a weakened brand. But if the conservative intellectuals are victorious, they will have a far stronger platform on which to build - a platform of actual ideas, many of them quite popular. But if the fundies win, then the Republican Party is doomed to be a shrill, fringe political animal that most Americans won't touch.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:44 PM
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50. I don't know about that
From the report in the New Yorker, she first appealed to the "conservative intellectuals," when she wined and dined them in Alaska and went to the GOPAC meetings. She was cozying up to the Washington insiders for quite a while. John just didn't pluck her out of the wilderness. She had some pretty powerful backers.

The fact that she appealed to the fundie nuts (forgive the redundancy) was just icing on the urinal cake.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:53 PM
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55. But I think the whole reason the elites liked her was solely for political purposes
They said to themselves (I imagine): "She's a total fundamentalist moron - perfect to keep the idiot base in line." But I sense that they have always loathed her for the same reasons they loathe their own voting base, whom they consider simpleton animals who can be easily controlled when necessary for electoral advantage.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:03 PM
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56. I think they thought they could groom her into the "New Margaret Thatcher"
But maybe underestimated just how shallow she was. After all, when she was on her own turf in an environment she controlled, not being challenged in any way, she might have come across a lot smarter than she was.

After all, as I was advised when I started graduate school, the best way to get ahead was to give back to your professors their own ideas in new and different ways. I'm sure that when Sarah repeated the "conservative intellectuals'" talking points to them, as she winked and smiled over the grilled salmon, they were flattered beyond belief and amazed at how smart she was.

I think it only took a day or two in the campaign to realize how abysmally ignorant she was.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:45 PM
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52. Wasilla hillbillies!
Ya gotta love this, but at the same time I kind of feel sorry for her...McCain dumping his own crash and burn, which is due to his own bad judgement, all on her.

That just isn't right. Can you imagine what a disaster he would have been as president? The guy is clueless about managing people.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:44 PM
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62. I'd suggest you save your sympathy for the people Palin wanted to annihilate in the middle east.
Not only that but she didn't give a damn about anyone in this country who wasn't a full on fundie just like her-which is the majority of the population. :puke:
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:29 PM
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67. I completely understand where you are coming from.
My point is only that McCain should have to answer for his own bad judgement. She is a nobody and a distraction.

I hope she never comes back out of Alaska and I think she appealed to the absolute worst of the Republican base. But he was a loser from the get-go. Him and his BFF Leiberman.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:25 PM
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79. I don't think we've seen the last of Palin. Not by a long shot.
That's one reason I don't want to see people starting to feel sorry for her.

She is so dangerous to this country and planet it ain't funny.

We need to make sure she never has a chance to be anywhere near the oval office ever again. :nuke:
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:29 PM
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80. She is too brainless to get that far again.
As I said, that was a tremendously bad move by McCain.

Though I thank him for it, lol.

Even Republicans didn't like her. She only appealed to the stupidest of the stupid.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:48 PM
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53. McCain looks like he's playing a theremin in that photo
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:10 PM
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59. This is as predictable as the sun rising in the east.
I mentioned this would happen some months ago.

Hopefully, Palin's loony defenders will rally around her and further the Republican schism.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:47 PM
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63. The GOP was telegraphing its punches long before the election...
...and they made it abundantly clear that if McCain went down, the blame would be placed on Palin.

The fact that they didn't waste a single second in going after her doesn't surprise me in the least.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:13 PM
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60. Keating 5 redux
When the heat is on, McCain will parcel out the dirt under the table so he comes out smelling like a rose.

Moi? No shit on the bottom of this shoe.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:41 PM
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61. Karma is a bitch isn't it?
:evilgrin:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:48 PM
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64. Wow. Shades of Imelda Marcos another beauty queen turned into a politico.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 02:57 PM by Cleita
If McCain had become President, just how much would she have spent of the Treasury on herself and her family and friends?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:52 PM
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68. My single greatest memory of the McCain concession speech...
...WASN'T McCain, and it WASN'T Sarah.

It was "First Dude" Todd. That little son of a bitch stood there and GLARED at McCain, with the kind of look on his face that a man could only have when he KNOWS the lid's been put back on the cookie jar.

Todd is basically Kevin Federline to Sarah's Britney Spears. That boy was looking forward to four fat years of spend, spend, spend.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:50 PM
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65. "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast."
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:04 PM
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71. Question. Does she have declare the clothing on her income tax?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:20 PM
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77. That question was being asked during the campaign...
...and would you believe that was right around the time Moose Mom said she was gonna donate them clothes to charity, oh you betcha?

:eyes:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:10 PM
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74. "McCain and Palin had little contact with each other. " Sorta like him and Cindy.
So, the question remains, exactly what role DID Joe LIeberman play in this kabuki campaign?

If the girls weren't with him, and Joey was, how does that all add up?

But remember, Barack, who is seen hugging and kissing his family constantly, is a terrorist.
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