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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:23 PM
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Barack Obama is a human being I can recognize.
I understand his kind of person. I don't feel this way about politicians generally. I feel it about Al Gore; despite all the bullshit common wisdom that he's stiff and overly professorial, he has a sense of humor that's very familiar to me. But most politicians are very good at hiding their real personhood, adjusting their tastes and hiding their idiosyncracies to offend as few people as possible.

The Obama who is described in the Newsweek piece as quoted on Huffington Post, though, is someone I can relate to. I especially understand the way he feels about the "stupid questions" he's expected to answer during the debates.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/06/candid-obama-genuinely-se_n_141692.html


Obama was something unusual in a politician: genuinely self-aware. In late May 2007, he had stumbled through a couple of early debates and was feeling uncertain about what he called his "uneven" performance. "Part of it is psychological," he told his aides. "I'm still wrapping my head around doing this in a way that I think the other candidates just aren't. There's a certain ambivalence in my character that I like about myself. It's part of what makes me a good writer, you know? It's not necessarily useful in a presidential campaign."


These candid remarks were taped at a debate-prep session at a law firm in Washington. The tape of Obama's back-and-forth with his advisers, provided to NEWSWEEK by an attendee, is a remarkably frank and revealing record of what the candidate was really thinking when he took the stage with his opponents.

On the tape, after Obama's rueful remark about the mixed blessings of his detached nature, there is cross talk and laughter, and then Axelrod cracks, "You can save that for your next memoir."

Obama continues: "When you have to be cheerful all the time and try to perform and act like , I'm sure that some of it has to do with nerves or anxiety and not having done this before, I'm sure. And in my own head, you know, there's--I don't consider this to be a good format for me, which makes me more cautious. When you're going into something thinking, 'This is not my best ...' I often find myself trapped by the questions and thinking to myself, 'You know, this is a stupid question, but let me ... answer it.' Instead of being appropriately . So when Brian Williams is asking me about what's a personal thing that you've done , and I say, you know, 'Well, I planted a bunch of trees.' And he says, 'I'm talking about personal.' What I'm thinking in my head is, 'Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I f---ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective'."
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:25 PM
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1. The 2 writers were on Charlie Rose last night, John Meecham and some other douchebag
i watched the whole segment and i thought it was a hit piece.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:30 PM
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2. Did they mention some other crappy stuff that is going to come out when the entire
piece is released?

Most of the chatter is about the Palin - McCain drama.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:31 PM
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3. they only spent about 2 minutes discussing the real gossipy stuff, most of the time was spent
with them telling us how Obama isn't really Obama kind of. "He's made himself of character" or some such nonsense.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:37 PM
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4. I loathe John Meacham.
I didn't know that was his piece. Believe me, it's not the piece itself I'm relating to. It's the snapshot of Obama in it.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:38 PM
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5. they were excited the tape got leaked to them.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:39 PM
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6. They thought it was damaging?
:wtf:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:40 PM
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7. i don't think so but they kept talking about him being "Self aware" like 20 times
they must have said it and they both had shit eating grins on their faces the whole time.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:43 PM
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8. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
:wtf:

Self-awareness is a flaw of some kind? They probably think it's on par with other liberal faults like compassion and intelligence and reasonableness.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:45 PM
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9. ok the impression i think they wanted to make last night was that Obama is a fake
they didn't come out and say that of course but that was the feel, like he isn't who he makes himself out to be, they did say some complimentary things as well but they were really putting him under a high powered microscope.


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:51 PM
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10. The problem is that it is these Newsweek Reporters who are fake.....
and they figure if they point the finger elsewhere, noone will figure that out.

The media hate Barack Obama because he has yet to kiss their asses.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:55 PM
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11. That is so patently not true.
Based on their own evidence!

This is what I get from the tape (transcription): Every politician puts on a public persona. Every media person, for gods' sake, does it. A real person like Obama who is self-aware is uncomfortable with it, even though he knows he has to do it to an extent. A self-aware politician, like Obama apparently, wrestles with the questiion, how much of a compromise to your self-respect do you make to play that role?

This is probably not high-concept enough for jerks like Meacham. It involves too much self-awareness and thought.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:58 PM
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12. i think the problem is that Obama is a thinker and after Bush they've forgotten what that looks like
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 04:01 PM by chimpsrsmarter
oh yeah i thought more about your thread on Lieberman yesterday and i think he should be stripped of his chairmanship, we aren't getting to 60 and at this point i think snowe or collins would vote with the dems instead of Lieberman. I am just royally pissed he is still an issue.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:00 PM
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13. I've thought more about that too, and now I'm disgusted that Reid is pussyfooting around with him
still. I agree with you: Holy Joe must go.
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