Hahaha , Matthews MSNBC: Karl Rove 08s biggest political loser.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

Loo-hoo-se-her.

[ddeclue]

1. Not Bush???

:shrug:

Karl doesn't have "a legacy" Bush does..

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

3. Bush's whole legacy was based on KKKarl's twisted beliefs. He was after all Bush's brain. nt

[CatWoman]

12. video here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27581409#27581409

[Bad Thoughts]

10. Bush was a loser in 2005

Failed social security reform, failed response to Katrina, etc.

[liberalmuse]

2. In 2009...

I'd like to see Rove and other Bush administration officials settled into the newly emptied Gitmo.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

4. That is my dream. I don't see it coming true but I can still dream. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. Who else was on the list? I missed it.... Palin?

Was it a top five?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. Didn't catch the whole thing but from memory: Palin, Dole and I think the Bradley effect. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. Good list....... I think Bell weather state should be on it too

Got it turned on now.

[ErinBerin84]

8. also, joe lieberman. ha!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. Thanks, I forgot that one. nt

[Orsino]

11. He walks away free and wealthy, laughing at subpoenas...

...with the assurance that he can never be prosecuted, and can get a gig on Fox anytime he wants.

Rove won. We lost.

[Marsala]

14. Nah.

His dream of a permanent Republican majority has been demolished, and he has been tainted with the utter failure of the Bush administration.

[Orsino]

15. That's not his dream.

No idealist can have dirtied his hands the way Rove has. He is nothing if not pragmatic, and cares not a whit for glory. All he wanted was a swanky getaway car with a trunkload of cash, and he is assured of that.

(The "permanent Republican majority" was simply the line of bullshit that allowed him to fleece the GOP rubes for so long. It might have been nice, but what did Rove care, so long as he was paid well?)

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

16. I have no disagreements with what you say. But my only

point is that he went at least in the eyes of many of his admirers from "Boy Genius" to the guy responsible for imploding the repig party. Unfortunately he has demonstrated time and time again that he's above the law.

[Orsino]

17. He's above politics, too.

Or below. Politics is simply what pays the bills.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

19. That's where I think you're wrong. He loves politics. he could have become

a CEO of a company or any number of things. His twisted little mind is all about politics. It's not about the republican majority. It's about him being the one credited for it. That's the impression I have gotten over the years reading Wayne Slater and others who know him from way back. That's also the impression I got after watching "Bush's Brain". You can already tell by watching somebody like Axelrod who seems perfectly happy to work behind the scenes whereas Rove wants it to be about him. If his only concern is making money he wouldn't be showing his pasty saggy ass face on Faux News every night. There's a million more ways this guy could be making money without having the hassle of putting himself out there every night. This is what he does he is a former geek who used to get his ass kicked who has grown up as a kind of reverse bully. There seems to be a certain pathology that goes beyond just making money (which he's made a ton of).

[Orsino]

20. I think the only thing he loves is getting away with shit no one else would try.

That it's in service to the political agendas of others is incidental. I think.

Perhaps he also gets a kick out of being called a "genius" by the ignorant.

[maddowfan]

13. Excuse me, but it's, "Ha!" when quoting Matthews

[Occam Bandage]

21. I think "HnAH!" is closer to that sound.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

18. This election was a sweet, sweet repudiation of everything Rovian.

I am so proud of this country.