SOMETHING SMELLS VERY FISHY IN ALASKA

[BradBlog]

Source: BRAD BLOG



SOMETHING SMELLS VERY FISHY IN ALASKA

Turnout Rate Reported as Lowest Ever in State, Down 11% From '04 Even With Both Palin and Obama on the Ballot

Hanging in the Balance in the Diebold State: Felon Ted Stevens' U.S. Senate Race, Corrupt Don Young's House Race -- Results for Both of Which Currently Running Completely Counter to Pre-Election Polls...

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6644


Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6644

[d_b]

1. Total BS

Spread this one around, folks. Send it off to Keith, Rachel, etc. This needs national attention.

[Blue_In_AK]

28. d_b, did you see it on Rachel's show tonight?

PLUS Shannyn Moore was talking about it on the KTUU news at 6:00. I'm surprised, and impressed.

[No Elephants]

36. Did you send it to Keith and/or Rachael?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Diebold up to its usual standard

of dirty tricks. There's no way people wouldn't vote in the Congressional and Senatorial elections. Methinks that a lot of D voters simply had their votes erased.

[Hawkeye-X]

3. Brad - we've had this discussion before..

Please stop posting LBN and hawking your blog, and give us a direct source. Your blog is NOT a legitimate news source PER LBN rules. We don't post LBN news from Drudge, so don't start.

Hawkeye-X

[Vinnie From Indy]

4. Amen!

Thanks!

[Royal Oak Rog]

5. You're comparing Bradblog to Drudge

You couldn't come up with a better analogy? I think you're way off base here, anytime you can get this timely information out who cares where it comes from. Thanks for posting Brad!

[Hawkeye-X]

8. Drudge is a blog as well.

And not even a legitimate news source. You have to remember that.

[Royal Oak Rog]

13. I'm aware of that

but to compare it to Bradblog, get out of town. This guy's doing some good work here by pointing out how they're stealing elections and were gonna be picky on whether it's a news source or not? This is good strong news, the best I've read anywhere today, God bless you Bradblog!

[StrictlyRockers]

38. Bradblog does investigative journalism. Drudge just does cut and paste.

I am fine with Brad posting if he has a breaking news story that is this timely and relevant.

[EFerrari]

17. But Brad actually does the work. There is no comparison.

Brad has gotten many stories right that even the sainted New York Times got wrong.

There is no comparison between Brad and Sludge.

[movonne]

6. And what media is Legit???? I would think not tv...papers are questionalbe,

etc...

[Hawkeye-X]

10. So if you have no problems with Brad, ask him to reveal his sources.

I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth than to hear it from some blog, honestly. It doesn't belong in LBN. GD-P and Election Reform, yes.

Hawkeye-X

[Royal Oak Rog]

14. You mean every news source is originated at the

source it's printed at? I think not, take your Fox news talking points and quit trying to run this guy down, your point is insane and anti-productive to possible election theft!

[BradBlog]

22. We do reveal our sources. What the hell are you talking about?!

The use of anonymous sources at The BRAD BLOG is *incredibly* rare, and almost always accompanied by documents, etc. to authenticate the veracity of the source who -- on those (exceedingly) rare occassions when they must remain anonymous for very specific reasons, usually endangering their life or their ability to continue to supply whistleblower information -- are anonymous for a reason.

As mentioned, however, we've used anonymous sources in perhaps two or three cases over the entire life of The BRAD BLOG (since Jan. of 2004), always explain why they must be anonymous, or otherwise encourage people to take reports from such sources with a grain of salt.

So I repeat, what the hell are you talking about, HawkeyeX? And why are spreading disinformation concerning The BRAD BLOG and our reporting?

[amdezurik]

20. what "we" are you talking about?

the royal one or what?

[BradBlog]

21. Apparently Google News disagrees with you...

The BRAD BLOG is an officially sanctioned Google News source. Period.

It's also frequently cited by NYTimes, WaPo, etc. etc.

We are also regularly credentialed as media at official events (such as the Democratic National Convention, and Congressional hearings.).

I'm sorry if you see the original reporting we offer as "hawking (my) blog", but based on your comment about "revealing sources", it sounds like you've never read it.

I'll let our reporter who filed this original report from Anchorage Alaska know that she's not a real reporter.

[Zhade]

24. If the mods don't object, who are you to do so?

NT!

[Richard Steele]

37. Yes, and you were just as wrong then. What's up with that?

nm

[azureblue]

7. Brad is reporting a possible election theft

And you're concerned with semantics of posting?
What is wrong with your priorities?

[Hawkeye-X]

9. I am concerned about the election theft, but I'm also concerned

about making sure that the LBN is intended for what it is - a latest breaking news.

Brad can move it to GD-P and Election Reform where it really belongs.

Hawkeye-X

[Royal Oak Rog]

15. That's just Stupid

This kind of news can't be posted in enough of places. You think that every news source doesn't borrow and use other news sources? Grow up, what's wrong with you? This is as important news as I've heard today, and you're ready to get nit picky?

[byronius]

16. I consider Bradblog to be harder news than the major news outlets

that strove to mask all evidence about 2004's shenanigans.

Drudge is a partisan hack. Brad's just a solid American.

He's proven himself, in my view, to be quite hard news.

[BradBlog]

23. Apparently not very concerned...

The revelation of an 11% DROP in turnout rate for the Presidential election in Alaska from '04 to '06 and the fact that it may result in the loss of a fillibuster-proof majority in the U.S. Senate is not breaking news? That's "Election Reform" news?

And you prefer that alternately an article about a possible stolen SENATE election be posted in the "General Discussion: PRESIDENTIAL Election" category?

Again, who the hell are you, and what the hell are you talking about?

[damntexdem]

11. What doesn't?

Alaska + Diebold = oh, my nose, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

[roguevalley]

12. we were jammed and the early voting was huge. this is stolen, the fuckers

[Kalifornia.Kid]

18. Alaska is a glutton for embarrassments ... who's the fu@k is in charge?

ohhh.........never mind.

[Ozma]

48. Never Mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it

:rofl: :rofl:

[Doctor_J]

19. Heard you on Hartmann, Brad

Fishy doesn't even begin to describe it. Every pollster was close on every race except Alaska, where they were all off by at least 8 points. This is theft, plain and simple.

[Zhade]

25. KandR

NT!

[HopeHoops]

26. Who would have THUNK it? Of course, I imagine Alaska smells fishy anyway - heavy part of the diet.

[BradBlog]

27. KICKING THIS SINCE IT BELONGS IN LBN - NOT IN GD: PREZ!!!

...Where it's gotten buried.

If the Mods haven't figured it out yet, HawkeyeX's complaint is entirely wrong, and the story has now gotten fully buried with this move to an incorrect forum.

[Ichingcarpenter]

29. Genius Nate Silver thanks both the Alaskan and Georgia elections

were fraudulent and Obama's lawyers need to investigate


Nominated Brad!

[Awsi Dooger]

32. Genius Nate Silver doesn't realize those two states notoriously overstate Democrats in polling

That holds up every cycle. I've mentioned it here for 6 years, probably dozens of times. Every time Georgia is touted I mention how it over values Democratic strength. That was true long before Diebold, and Alaska also. Tony Knowles was falling well short of his polls numbers as far back as his first gov race in 1990. I think he matched the polling in maybe one statewide race, the blowout victory in 1998.

If you asked me a week ago to predict two states where Obama would under perform in relation to polling, I would have identified Alaska and Georgia and taken my chances. I won a chunk betting McCain to win Georgia at 1/2 odds. The offshore site has already paid off.

Nate Silver needs to evaluate past results in regard to accuracy in polling, state to state. You can't merely absorb polls and assume accuracy. He evaluates pollsters that way, but I've never seen anything in regard to state tendencies.

Obviously the number of votes in Alaska looks low. I noticed that all night Tuesday while following the Begich race. But there's no way a state could get away with slicing voter participation by that extent. There are participation rolls, easily checked by a motivated source. Democrats probably didn't show up, mesmerized by Obama's win. Nate Silver wrote that was the most likely explanation. Even if everyone had turned out, I'm confident the polling would have overstated Begich, Obama and the Democratic House candidate. That's reality in Alaska. I've read it's the most difficult state to poll and every cycle that is verified. Anchorage is over weighted and the wilderness is under weighted.

[Blue_In_AK]

35. And the participation rolls BETTER be checked by someone

because it makes no sense AT ALL that fewer people would turn out for this race than in any other presidential race yet. It's completely illogical. You weren't here in February for our caucuses. You haven't been here for our rallies. The Democrats were fired up and ready to go, and you will never convince me that they didn't turn out in record numbers to vote. I find your statement "Democrats probably didn't show up, mesmerized by Obama's win" to be condescending in the extreme.

[Why Syzygy]

40. And the Governor was on the ballot!

Alaskans wouldn't turn out for that opportunity? Maybe Stevens needs more investigations.

[No Elephants]

39. When did the Alaskans know Obama had won? Don't people start voting when polls open?

[Blue_In_AK]

43. It was called at 7:00 p.m. here

and, yes, we were voting from early in the morning, plus record early voting.

[BradBlog]

51. Except you're wrong...

...Another 25,000 ballot just showed up (might have been 75,000, don't have the time to go check, but you get the idea).

So without those ballots, you were ready to accept the numbers as legit. Now that new ones have shown up, shall we accept those numbers on faith as well?

There are always "explanations" for results that don't make sense. Sometimes those explanations are accurate, sometimes they are not. Why anybody would want to accept such numbers on faith is beyond me.

It's democracy. It should be fully transparent, provable, and demonstrable beyond questions so that we can have confidence that our system works.

If you're right about your speculation that AK and GA poll numbers don't work for some odd reason, no problem. Let's all look at all of the ballots (included spoiled and unvoted), reconcile them all with the pollbooks, and orders made to printers for ballots, and we'll have no problem here.

But I have no interest in rolling over for faith-based democracy. Unfortunately, in GA, the voters there will have no choice given the voting systems they use.

[Blue_In_AK]

52. Brad, an interesting statistic that I'm sure you're aware of.

George Bush defeated Kerry in Alaska in 2004 by a margin of 61-36.

From on-site reports, when the results first started coming in here at Election Central this Tuesday night the breakdown with the first few precincts reporting was 61-36. As the precinct results continued to come in, the tally remained at 61-36. The final result of the night?

McCain -- 61%
Obama -- 36%


Now, you tell me -- does this make sense?

[BradBlog]

33. Thank you, Iching...

...The trolls are out in force today in DU land, unfortunately, and have managed to do a fine job of burying several stories I've posted here today. See my journal to help find (and KICK them!)
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BradBlog
...since they got buried.

I guess these guys haven't gone away since they got tail kicked on Tuesday. Especially with a filibuster-proof Dem majority now hanging in the balance. Pay attention folks! That's now the battleground.

[Waiting For Everyman]

30. K&R

[Blue_In_AK]

31. Thank you, Brad, for caring about us in Alaska.

It seems that everybody is ready to assume that Alaskans are just a bunch of "Wasilla hillbillies," or blind Ted Stevens followers, trailing around after him with our hands out. I appreciate that you're following up on this, and please keep up the good work. This is not the first time that we've been robbed, as you well know. (Think Tony Knowles/Lisa Murkowski.) It has to stop, and it's only through the efforts of people like yourself that any light will be shown on these abuses.

I'm a proud Alaska Progressive and I'm far from the only one in this state. We must put these corrupt bastards out of business. Get some more of those FBI agents up here stat.

[BradBlog]

34. Alaska has been one of the ONLY places in the Union where...

...the Democratic Party has stepped up to take on the Electoral-Industrial Complex! For that alone you guys deserve the support of EVERY American!

Please don't let this thread die in GD: P where it was inappropriately moved by some of the folks who'd rather not discuss concerns with the Senate races in AK, GA and MN!

[Earth Bound Misfit]

41. K & R n/t

[Life Long Dem]

42. Palin wants that senate position

[AtomicKitten]

44. Oh, it stinks alright.

I hope Alaska gets spanked hard for the voting "irregularities" and Ted Seven Felony Counts Stevens gets bounced on his ass.

[Cleita]

45. Thank you for all the hard work you do.

K&R

[mvd]

46. It's a good thing the Presidential election wasn't that close

You'd know they'd try to steal it like they might do in the AK and MN Senate races.

[TexasObserver]

47. The reduction in voters from 2004 is a dead give away. Someone disappeared 20% of the votes.

[Ozma]

49. Abso f* in LUTE LY!!!!!! n/t

[Beausoleil]

50. K&R

for Alaska!