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Fri Nov-07-08 10:30 AM
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ABC News: Senator Clinton for Secretary of State or Secretary of Defence |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 10:31 AM by RMP2008
Per George Stephanopolous on GMA. Other candidates are Nunn, Lugar, Kerry and Richardson. I'd love to see Senator Clinton have a prominent role in our president-elect's admnistration though.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:31 AM
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1. We need her in the Senate! |
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Let's pick cabinet members that are not in the Senate if possible...
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:32 AM
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And NY does have a tendency for competitve senate races (something that we don't need)
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:36 AM
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12. If she does go, I want Suozzi to run for it. |
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Even though he'd be a better governor!
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Fri Nov-07-08 05:31 PM
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not too high on Suozzi as you are, neighbor, I'd prefer Steve Israel to go for her seat.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:20 PM
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42. Yeah, she's good in the Senate, |
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and now that every move she makes will no longer be filtered through Presidential ambitions, she has potential for greatness in the Senate.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:50 AM
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20. I wholeheartedly agree. |
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Hillary could whip our votes into shape with no problems.
I think Blue Dog issues would be much lessened if she takes over for Harry Reid.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:40 AM
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33. They can find a good replacement in NY maybe RFK, Jr. I think she would be a great addition. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:33 PM
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and I think Hillary wants to stay in the senate.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:32 AM
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3. Lugar has already said no. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:39 PM
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49. Lugar said publicly he wasn't interested |
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that is not the same thing as saying no when the job is actually offered to you by the President. I take Lugar's "not interested" in the same vein as every person who is ever rumored to be a VP candidate. None of them are ever interested.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:33 AM
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He is a homophobic asshole.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:37 PM
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but I don't think Obama would honestly point a homophobe to such a position.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:34 AM
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5. Clinton, Nunn, Kerry, and Richardson. |
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Umm, is George just whipping out his speculative VP list again?
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:35 AM
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:35 AM
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7. The media doesn't know. Notice they only mention names known to the public |
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Obama isn't going to put a bunch of these old hands in his Administration.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:38 AM
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I'll bet no more than 2 sitting Congressmen or Senators will wind up in the cabinet, yet they're mentioned for every post. There are always, always more unknown, non-household names that get appointed than not.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:35 AM
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8. State would be cool, but defence makes no sense. |
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But I think Hillary wants to stay in the Senate.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:22 AM
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27. HRC chose committees like HELP |
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It was only later that she was added to Armed Services - and she is not on SFRC. Given that half the Clinton supporters came out of the woodwork yesterday to attack Kerry's credentials - even though he was called a foreign policy expert before the Clintons arrived in DC, this may be why.
I think Kerry, Susan Rice, Richardson, Albright, Holbroke, and likely many others would be better. In addition, there is the problem of Bill Clinton. Obama needs to make this HIS Presidency. It is not a co-Presidency with the Clintons.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:04 PM
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36. WTF are you babbling on about? Hillary herself has said she is happy in the Senate. Paul Begala last |
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night on CNN said Kerry is a foreign policy expert and better on the issue than anyone. Give it a rest with your Clinton smearing.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:28 PM
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62. I was referring to all the posts written yesterday on at least three threads |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 01:32 PM by karynnj
I am not speaking of the Clintons ( other than to say that foreign policy was not HRC's major interest area - I would assume she would say that health care and education are and that having a Clinton as the SoS would make it harder for Obama to be seen as his own man) - I am speaking of the DU people, many of whom were Clinton supporters, who attacked Kerry every time his name comes up.
Did you miss the 100+ threads?
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:36 AM
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Now that I think about it, that would be really cool
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:36 AM
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10. I don't like the idea |
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That makes that seat very vulnerable to Bloomberg run. Anything sans court justice, I'd rather see her head of the senate.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:36 AM
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11. I hope Nunn doesn't get a Cabinet spot. |
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I can't stand that homophobe. :mad:
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:39 AM
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14. WTF is this obsession with Sam Nunn? Old has-been. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:40 AM
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that would go over very, very badly. The SoD is a good spot for Obama to name a Republican. State? I could live with that.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:43 AM
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16. LINK ???? Goes against prior hints of Richardson or Kerry. Why should she want it |
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:45 AM
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:46 AM
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18. We have a lot of great Senators and I'm seeing lots of calls to put them in cabinet posts |
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However, we need all the damn Senators we have in the Senate! I know they can be replaced but let's not strip the entire Dem leadership from our party and leave us with Jr. Senators.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:49 AM
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19. Exactly--most Presidents don't raid the Senate for cabinet members--they're too valuable. |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 10:50 AM by wienerdoggie
Did Chimpy ever pull more than John Ashcroft out of the GOP Senate?
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:12 AM
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22. I don't think he did but am not 100% certain. nt |
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:15 AM
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24. Ashcroft had just lost his Senate seat when he joined chimp's cabinet |
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The people of Missouri voted for a dead man, Mel Carnahan, rather than re-elect Ashcroft to the Senate.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:19 AM
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25. Oops, you're right! Thanks. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:55 PM
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54. If my senator goes for a Cabinet position, her seat is hardly in danger. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:11 AM
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21. I've seen a lot of (R) names floated for SoD |
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and frankly I think it just helps perpetuate the bullshit that Dem's can't do military stuff. Don't do it.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:13 AM
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23. Why would she want to be in his cabinet? |
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She has more power in the senate and she will have that job for as long as she wants it since she's very popular in the state.
;-)
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:21 AM
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26. Why in the hell would she be considered for Sec of Defense?? |
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She has no military credentials to speak of. State, I can maybe see, but not defense. That would be an almost laughable choice.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:22 AM
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28. I was hoping she'd be Sec. of State, but Richardson would be good too! |
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can't lose with any of those choices!
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:45 PM
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51. I would love to see Richardson in that role! |
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:26 AM
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29. I want Hillary on the Supreme Court, where she is immune |
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from the radical right who tried to destroy her, and she will fight the extremists on that damn court.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:33 AM
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30. I'd rather she ran for president again. |
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I still would like to see her as our first woman president.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:10 PM
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38. So would I but she will be too old.....72 years old in 2012......n/t |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:37 PM
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not until 2016 to not run against an incumbent democrat
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:05 PM
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57. My typing bad...2016 is what I meant...she is 64 now....oops! n/t |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:42 PM
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50. No she'll be 68 in 2016. She's only 60/61 now. |
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That would make her just a little older than Joe Biden. She could do it in 2016 if she wanted to. Women also live longer than men.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:50 PM
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53. She only turned 61 last month. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:06 PM
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58. Oops...and I'm a Hillary fan...gotta get my stats right...I thought she was 64. n/t |
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:24 PM
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so here's to her giving it another shot.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:41 AM
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34. That has always been my dream - to see her on the Supreme Court. nt |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:06 PM
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37. She's not interested in being on the SC. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:31 PM
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44. Me too -- I also feel she'll protect my rights |
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:35 AM
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31. Richardson for State, Nunn for SecDef |
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Both are supremely qualified for these positions.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:38 AM
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I don't see this anywhere.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:56 AM
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I'd like Hillary for either of those posts, or for the Supreme Court, or to replace Harry Reid as Leader.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:13 PM
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39. I wanted her for SCOTUS, but changed my mind. Sec of State would be OK but what I'd really like |
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is for her to be Senate Majority Leader.
I haven't completely agreed with all the Reid hate on DU as of late, but I've changed my mind on that too.....basically from ease-dropping on right wing hate radio...they make fun of him mercilessly for being such a milquetoast....I'd love to see Hillary take charge in that role.
But I'd be cool with Secretary of State too.......and I think the world would love it, too.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:17 PM
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40. Still waiting for that "change". |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:58 PM
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56. What change are you expecting? Kerry and co have experience |
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but they are not the same as Shrub's cabinet. They are far from it.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:47 PM
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65. I agree - Kerry spoke of change in foreign policy since 1966 - a change we never really have had |
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Kerry was against a foreign policy that built the School of the Americas and covertly funded the Contras, who were right wing thugs guilty of atrocities. It was not just the Republicans who supported them it was half the Democratic party.
Looking at what Kerry has fought, with political cost to himself, and what he has said in speeches, he is a strong force for change in foreign policy. As either the chair of the SFRC or SoS, he will be one of the voices Obama listens to as he forms his foreign policy.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:19 PM
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41. I like Kerry or Richardson |
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I'd like to see a role for Clinton in the Administration but I don't think Secretary of State is the right role for her.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:30 PM
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64. Clinton she is good in the Senate. |
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is there a Secretary of Health, she would be good for that position.
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Fri Nov-07-08 02:20 PM
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66. There is the Department of Health and Human Services |
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If we were going to raid the entire Senate for qualified people, Hillary Clinton would be my first choice for Sec of HHS. However, considering the situation, I would rather see her as Majority Whip with Sen. Durbin as Majority Leader.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:31 PM
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43. I want her on the USSC or as a Senator |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:35 PM
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46. Clinton would be FANTASTIC! OMGSH! |
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If Obama did that I might cry for joy. He really does care about Clinton supporters. I mean, I know he always has... he showed that in how graceful he was towards her. BUT, if he is really considering her for a role in his administration, even if he doesn't pick her, it is the thought that counts.
THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA!
I really feel like we are going to have one of the best, most considerate, and most thoughtful presidents in history.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:46 PM
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52. Absurd, frankly. She's got no qualifications for either post. nt |
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:56 PM
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55. Hillary's s warmonger. She should stay in the Senate and work on healthcare, her strength. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:08 PM
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59. She's a "warmonger"...right...under your critieria, you just voted for a VP warmonger. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 05:19 PM
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69. No, I voted for Obama who was right on the war from day 1. I made it known I wanted Richardson 4 VP. |
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But hey, I can live with Biden since he won't be making any big decisions, but rather, taking directions from someone who has shown incredible judgment. Leadership starts at the top, as I'm sure you can appreciate.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:25 PM
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61. Oh, please................... |
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Same primary BS, different day.
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Fri Nov-07-08 05:27 PM
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71. It's all in the public record. My point is Hillary should stick w/ her strength, i.e. healthcare. |
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I think she can do a lot of good in that area, as she has already demostrated. Why not let people who are less easily misled by blatently false evidence handle matters of state and defense. There's too much at stake.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:28 PM
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63. I doubt it. I doubt we see either of the Clintons in the WH in a set position. nt |
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Fri Nov-07-08 02:21 PM
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67. Senator Clinton for Secretary of State |
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Fri Nov-07-08 02:24 PM
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68. If Senator Clinton goes to Secretary of State then Caroline Kennedy |
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may get appointed to Hillary's seat by Governor Patterson.
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Fri Nov-07-08 05:22 PM
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70. Hillary, I believe would be a smart move to Secretary of state - what did Condi accomplish? |
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not that I'm comparing the two, Hillary would have more clout (don't fuck with her)
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Fri Nov-07-08 05:29 PM
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72. Condi is a complete fool - almost anyone woudl look good in comparison. |
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