Dem hawks in arms over Kerry as SoS for 2 reasons: they want a hawk as SoS and don't want Feingold

[blm]

to ascend to Chair of SFRC should Kerry be tapped. It would be hard to find two senators less loved by establishment Dem powerstructure.

Personally, I want Kerry in the senate leading hearings for a Truth and Reconciliation initiative that opens the books on the last 4 decades so American citizens can better understand HOW we got to these critical situations in our national security and our economy.

But...I can certainly understand why Obama would trust Kerry as a highly engaged foreign policy mind and as a statesman.

For those unaware of who carries the water for Dem hawks in DC....TNR...The New Republic.

[LittleClarkie]

1. Would you happen to have any linkage for the Dem hawks up in arms part?

?

[blm]

5. The TNR crowd....

and theyve been fueling the lie that Kerry traded his endorsement for SoS back in 2007. What a pile. How many thought back in 2007 that Hillary Clinton could be beaten in the primaries? If Kerry was callow and selfish he'd have turned over his national machine to HRC in a trade for a cabinet position.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/11/07/secretary-of-state-kerry.aspx

[ProSense]

8. They're a-holes

Kerry believed enough in Obama in 2004 to give him a spotlight at his convention, but now he and Obama are opportunists?

What the hell makes them think Obama would trade a position for a Kerry endorsement? Also, why are they surprised that one of the most experienced foreign policy people around might be considered for SoS?

Morons.

[LittleClarkie]

14. TNR likes Lieberman, don't they?

Since when have many cared what they wanted anyway?

Would they be considered DLC? Or are they less centrist than that?

They never liked Kerry anyway. Iirc, they endorsed Lieberman in 2004.

[ProSense]

16. Yup, they are the

Peter Bienart/PNAC crowd, in other words: warmongers.

[blm]

17. and, without a doubt, they are the ones spreading the lie that Kerry traded his endorsement

as if both Kerry and Obama are nothing but political opportunists.

[karynnj]

22. Also a stupid lie because that deal would not work

The President could just say the conditions are different (they always are) and there would be nothing the other could do. You can't bash the president saying you traded your vote because it looks bad.

[ProSense]

2. Dem hawks have no influence over Obama's selections.

They're like the RW and Media now, spouting crap. Let them keep hyperventilating and spinning nonsense. They're just as irrelevant (see Lieberman) as the neocons.

[TwilightGardener]

3. I don't think Kerry is exactly a Kucinich dove of peace. He is no more or less a hawk than Obama--

and no more or less so than Richardson. Feingold might be a stretch for SFRC chair, though--you may be right on that. He's got some quirks that might make it hard to get some of Obama's stuff debated and passed in Committee. It's nice that he often stands alone on principle, but that doesn't always make a successful or cooperative chairman, IMO.

[blm]

7. Kerry was known for years in DC as the Tough Dove. Before the heavy Rovian smears and the

corporate media who repeated those smears took over DC. Leaders around the world who are EDUCATED about global matters know Kerry from his uncovering of and investigations into BCCI.

[mmonk]

4. Then that sounds like a good idea to me.

[Skidmore]

6. Well, tough. The SoS should be about the business of peace and diplomacy

and the SecDef should be about the business of prosecuting war when the Congress authorized the CIC to undertake one.

[Occam Bandage]

9. Who are these "Dem hawks?" I think Richardson is the best option by far. nt

[blm]

12. Because....why? Global terrorism? Global Financial Crisis? Global Water Issues?

Can craft a doable Withdrawal plan for Bush's wars?

In which of these areas does Richardson excel over Kerry?

[kwolf68]

19. NONE

I like Richardson, but he is a light-weight compared to Kerry. I really would rather have Kerry in the Senate working on some of the things he championed as Presidential candidate, but if Senator Kerry wishes to serve our nation as SoS and President Obama taps him then I like it.

[blm]

21. I agree - I prefer Kerry in senate, too, heading Truth and Reconciliation hearings, but

the idea that the Dem asshats (who were also fully behind Bush's war decisions and think Lieberman is an ideal Dem leader) are gunning to keep Kerry out of the position, along with stopping Feingold from rising at SFRC, galls me to a great degree.

They are part of the Dem powerstructure that always managed to deride the truthseekers and peacemakers.

[LittleClarkie]

15. What qualifications would Richardson have over Kerry?

Kerry strikes me as being much more internationally aware.

[politicasista]

20. That same question was asked in another thread, but no answer

as of yet.

[olkaz]

10. Obama doesn't want to look backward.

Take that as you will.

[blm]

23. If he doesn't want any Truth and Reconciliation whatsoever, then he'd be a fool.

And it's as dangerous a policy as there is. You think Bush2 would have been possible or a 9-11 would have happened if BCCI had received its due vetting?

Clinton protecting Bush1 throughout the 90s on those serious matters and criminal operations led directly to the return of BushInc and all its thugs, including the global terror networks they were funding for decades. You think Obama will repeat that enormous blunder?

[RollWithIt]

11. Care to link to one of these Dem Hawks?

I mean, if we're just going to make stuff up as we go?

[blm]

13. TNR is the one making up crap about Kerry and WHY he endorsed Obama early on.

I mean....if THEY are going to make stuff up as they go just because....

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/11/07/secretary-of-state-kerry.aspx

PS: This has been an ongoing whispering campaign against Kerry for TNR. Gee - thought more of you knew that by now about the hawkish TNR.

[cali]

18. uh, names please. I haven't heard one single dem hawk object to Kerry as SoS

[politicasista]

24. It was a TNR article where

some Democrats are attacking Kerry and putting out hit-pieces on him to stop him from being considered SOS and Feingold for SFRC Chair.