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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:51 PM
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Get to know a strong competitor for 2012: PIYUSH "Bobby" JINDAL
This is the guy that many Republicans are touting as the new face of the Republican Party. Let's get to know him a bit, shall we?



Name: Piyush "Bobby" Jindal. He got his nickname at the age of 4, by watching the Brady Bunch.. liking "Bobby" and has been known by it ever since (no joke!)

Age: 37 - born June 10th, 1971

Current Position: Govenor of Louisiana (elected in October 2007)

Previous History: 1996 - Appointed to the LA Dept. of Health & Hospitals; 1998 - Nat'l Bi-Partisian Commission on the future of Medicare; 2003 - Ran for Govenor and lost to Kathleen Blanco and then ran for Congress and won.

Education: Master's Degree in Political Science and Rhodes Scholar from Oxford

Religion: Was a Hindu, but in high school he converted to become a catholic

Family: Wife - Supriya Jolly, 3 children (Selia (f), Shaan (m) & Slade (m))

Stance on the issues: 100% Pro Life, Against Stem Cell Research, Voted with the Republican Caucus 97% of the time. He's only been a govenor

Links for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal http://www.gov.louisiana.gov/ http://www.bobbyjindal.com/

DISCUSS.. i'll post my opinions below in a response post.

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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:52 PM
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1. Don't forget his crazy youth as an exorcist
I'm not even fucking joking.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:53 PM
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2. Wha????
You need to post a link or at LEAST give some more info. After the witch pastors of Palin, i'm not doubting you... i just want more info!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:56 PM
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5. Go here:
As others noted during his 2003 and 2007 gubernatorial campaigns (see update), in an essay Jindal wrote in 1994 for the New Oxford Review, a serious right-wing Catholic journal, Jindal narrated a bizarre story of a personal encounter with a demon, in which he participated in an exorcism with a group of college friends. And not only did they cast out the supernatural spirit that had possessed his friend, Jindal wrote that he believes that their ritual may well have cured her cancer.

Reading the article leaves no doubt that Jindal -- who graduated from Brown University in 1991, was a Rhodes Scholar, and had been accepted at Yale Law School and Harvard Medical School when he wrote the essay -- was completely serious about the encounter. He even said the experience "reaffirmed" his faith.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/bobby_jindals_dance_with_the_d.php
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:34 PM
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83. Pics of Bobby, just to put a face on the issue.

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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:07 PM
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12. Faith Healer and Exorcist.
"Bobby Jindal, the 36-year old governor of Louisiana, is being taken seriously by the national press as a candidate on the shortlist to be John McCain's Vice President. No one doubts that he's a political prodigy -- his impressive resume includes stints as president of the state university system, a Congressman and now governor.
But one of Jindal's job titles hasn't gotten much attention -- and it just might prompt a few questions if his Veep candidacy gains steam: Exorcist.

We've discovered that in an essay Jindal wrote in 1994 for the New Oxford Review, a serious right-wing Catholic journal, Jindal narrated a bizarre story of a personal encounter with a demon, in which he participated in an exorcism with a group of college friends. And not only did they cast out the supernatural spirit that had possessed his friend, Jindal wrote that he believes that their ritual may well have cured her cancer."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/12/bobby-jindal-faith-healer_n_106716.html
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:46 AM
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74. WE'RE ALL IN HERE FATHER BOBBY!
Yo Momma sucks Tootsie Roll Pops in Indianapolis AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! :evilgrin:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:10 AM
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77. And his failure to heal NOLA proves that he isn't all that powerful
as a governor or a faith healer.

The images of NOLA will haunt him if he were to run for president.

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:54 PM
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3. haha, that's what I always think of too.
Chuck Todd said 2012 will be a battle between Bobby Jindal repubs and Sarah Palin repubs, and I thought "great...two religious wackjobs"...no offense to any exorcists out there.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:10 PM
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55. That would make him more qualified for the position in those crazy bastards eyes n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 11:10 PM by TK421
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:17 AM
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58. Thank you. Every time someone brings up Jindal as a possible threat I have to laugh
He's f'n nuts! There's no way! (not that being nuts is an automatic out as far as Republicans go, but Jindal is straight up CA-razy.)
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 09:20 AM
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68. Before you say that..
Think back to after we got spanked in 2004... did anyone think we'd be watching an Obama presidency right now?

If not Jindal, then who? Palin? Romney? Huck? Jeb?

This guy is as good as any that they've got... and if they follow our footsteps (which they seem to like to do).. this guy is the right wing cookie cutter of Obama in many ways. Meaning he's totally OPPOSITE on policies.. but has similar personality, etc.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 09:20 AM
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69. Before you say that..
Think back to after we got spanked in 2004... did anyone think we'd be watching an Obama presidency right now?

If not Jindal, then who? Palin? Romney? Huck? Jeb?

This guy is as good as any that they've got... and if they follow our footsteps (which they seem to like to do).. this guy is the right wing cookie cutter of Obama in many ways. Meaning he's totally OPPOSITE on policies.. but has similar personality, etc.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:55 PM
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4. He's a former Hindu turned Catholic. That will never wash with the fundies.
I don't care how vehemently anti-abortion he is, they will never accept him into the fold. He is tainted in their eyes.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:57 PM
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6. Agreed, he has no chance
nt
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:01 PM
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9. the fundies in Lousiana voted for him
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:02 PM
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11. I'd like to see the stats on that.
I think he does have crossover appeal.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:27 PM
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31. State politics are a little different
That's why you can see blue states elect a Republican governor and vice-versa.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:09 PM
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13. I'd tend to agree with you.. if
we didn't just elect Obama on Tuesday.. and every single Republican I know was saying the exact same thing (this country will never ever elect Obama) all the way up until 9:59pm that same day.

I'm just saying.. never underestimate... they may not have previously ever thought about it.. but now that we've elected Obama... maybe they'll think outside of the box and try to push him up the ranks to at least get a fundie in there.

I dunno.. i'm just not gonna go on record ever again by saying that we won't elect someone because of their skin color or religion, etc.

After saying that.. i do agree that republicans will be much LESS LIKELY to do so then democrats... but never say never. LA deep south republicans voted this guy in with a pretty big margin, so he has to have some appeal to the fundies, right?
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 07:00 PM
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44. He's pro-life no matter what, the fundies will love him.
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 07:00 PM by Dappleganger
Being a total pro-lifer gives him a pass in their eyes, because that's all they want.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:58 PM
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7. There are some things about him I like:
First.. he at least appears "smart" - which is a SERIOUS upgrade from the recent batch we've seen from the GOP. Bush 1, McCain, Palin. At least this guy seems to have intelligence. I don't know this beyond what limited info i've seen.. and i'm not claiming he won't use any of this "said" intelligence for evil - but at least it seems to be there.

He's a "foriegner". Again.. i'm somewhat shocked. It will be fun to see Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.. talk about how "great" this is after they've spent the past 2 years ripping apart Obama for the exact same thing.

He's young. He doesn't have a lot of experience.

What the hell?

It's like the Republican Party saw how much people loved Obama.. so they went shopping for a guy who has dark skin, a "funny" name, is young, has a good education, is a converted Christian and said "POW", we'll take that one.

Ironically - i'm not sure if their base will rally around this kind of different.. that was their biggest "fear" of Obama after all.

Ahh.. they hypocricy that is bound to begin soon already amuses me!
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:39 PM
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35. Your points are spot on - this would show a major step for the GOP, especially given his Hindu roots
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 05:50 PM by anneboleyn
and he is an exceptionally smart guy, very polished and young (a real Gen Xer -- his nickname is from Bobby Brady!). He is pro-life but he doesn't seem to represent the same (nasty) part of the party as Palin.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 06:50 PM
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41. Lotsa foreigners born in Baton Rouge?
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:07 AM
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76. I think they were refering to rightwinger's concept of "foreigner"
i.e....having dark skin and a non-European name.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:59 PM
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8. Wow this whackjob and Palin are the future of the repig party??
Have a nice 50 years democrats!:party::toast:
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:01 PM
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10. Weirdo
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:10 PM
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14. now now, according to some writer in Baton Rouge - calling him Piyush is racist
I shit you not.

I have a feeling this guy first needs to win re-election for his governor race and that ain't going to happen.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:15 PM
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16. I'm sure that same writer would NEVER have referred to
Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama", right? And that was his MIDDLE name. But going by this guys first name is now racist, eh?

Whatever.. i'll call him Bobby.. again, most Dem's really don't give a shit.. but as I said.. the hypocricy here is amazing.

I bet Rush will refer to him as Bobby every single time.. yet I have never heard him utter "obama" without Hussein attached.

The spin will be fantastic.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 08:08 PM
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49. I call him PBJ.
Although I can't claim credit for it. I believe that Oyster of Your Right Hand Thief blog coined the term.

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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:13 PM
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15. An African American verus an Indian American?
Well, the bigot vote is guaranteed to stay home.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:16 PM
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17. See.. that's what I mean
There IS a Silver lining to this guy running.. LOL.

The KKK will just stay at home as their heads explode.

If Obama came CLOSE to getting the South this year.. i'd think that he'd have a much better shot in '12 if he's running against Jindal. People would be forced to vote on issues.. not just race.

Wow.. what a stunning concept.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:19 PM
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18. I would love to see a Palin-Jindal debate
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 05:20 PM by galaxy21
Since Jindal is supposedly very clever (whatever else you think of him). He'd rip her apart in those debates.

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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:22 PM
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24. Ehhh.. to her "followers" she can do no wrong..
Biden chewed her up & spit her out.. but to her cult like followers.. she was fantastic. There is no debating with the likes of her.

Honestly - if it came down to Jindal v Palin.. i'd almost have to root for Palin... just so I could see Obama debate her in October 2012.. the show would be fantastic. :popcorn:
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:40 PM
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36. Jindal would eat Palin alive. It would be so painful, and so much fun to watch...
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:26 PM
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28. He got North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia, and came close in many other Southern states.
I'd say that's pretty fucking encouraging.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 09:41 AM
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71. Yeah. If you told me four years ago that a black man would come within 5 in Georgia I would have
laughed hysterically.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:20 PM
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19. Isn't he hosting some sort of "shindig" in IA on 11/8?????
I think this guy has his sights on a Presidential run in 2012
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:20 PM
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20. if 2012 was Obama v. Jindal
half the GOP might stay home in some parts of the country.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:24 PM
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25. To that I say...
"perrrrfect" in my most evil voice possible.

I said this in a post above.. the KKK would have their heads explode if their '12 choice is between an African American and an Indian American.

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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:20 PM
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21. Isn't he hosting some sort of "shindig" in IA on 11/8?????
I think this guy has his sights on a Presidential run in 2012
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:21 PM
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22. WTF better worry about 2008!!!
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:21 PM
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23. I find it hard to believe Jindal thinks he can win in 2012 and here's why
the first time Jindal ran for gov., he lost not because he was a fundie wingnut but because his opponent ran ads with pictures of him looking disheveled and weird. Playing on the racial aspect. The recent profile of him in Esquire touched on this.

Surely Jindal must have some idea about racial politics... how easy it is for a good chunk of voters, in some states as many as 1 in 5, to just simply say they won't vote for someone based on race. Can a Republican really overcome that?

I almost want him to do it, just to see Rush Limbaugh's confusion when half his audience declares they're voting for whoever the nearest white guy is.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:27 PM
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29. I think it would be great for the COUNTRY
if this guy ran... god forbid we have a discussion about issues.. not "joe the plumbers" who look just like Sally the School teacher.

I don't agree with Jindal's policy's at all. I don't know much about him.. but if it forced the right wing to look beyond race for even 10 seconds.. i'm all for that. It might flush out the racists who only voted for McCain because he's white this year.

What an interesting concept.. an Indian American or a Female (Palin) running against an African American in '12.

That right there makes many heads explode on the Republican side.
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:24 PM
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26. So let me tell you about my Governor......
Blech!! First of all, when he speaks for more than two seconds people's eyes glaze over. Secondly, He doesn't grant interviews to Louisiana media. His press secretary doesn't talk to the press. He speaks to the masses from the church pulpit. He even started to piss off the right-wing media here with his media stonewall. Had a recall petition filed against him after being in office for six months because he refused to veto a legislative pay raise passed the last legislative session. He finally pulled out the veto pen, but he had pissed off enough conservatives so there will always be a question about his conservative loyalties. He loves to talk to the big fundie mega-churches in order to get his "word" out. Big friend with Tony Perkins (who used to be a legislator from Baton Rouge). He already has his own 527 group to promote "Governor Jindal, his policies and the excellent job he is doing". :puke: I sincerely hope that he and Palin fight for the 2012 repub. nomination. It will be great to see them both try to out-fundie each other. It will make the general publics stomach turn.
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 06:52 PM
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42. this is right on...
Jindal is smart but he can't turn off the boring machine. He bogs himself down in details on the stump when he's not talking about Jesus. He has a weird sickly smile that will creep people out when he gets out in the public. No sense of humor, either. His style will elicit scorn when he's debating in a crowd in early primaries.
Another thing, hit him in the mouth on the campaign trail. Bobby's got a glass jaw. Kathleen Blanco did it when they ran in 2003 and he didn't recover. It took Blanco's very poor response to Katrina to put him in the Governor's Mansion.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 08:16 PM
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50. Yep.
I remember during Gustav he would natter on in his press conferences about the number of generators in a particular location, but wouldn't give out any real information to the public. It was frustrating.

Keep it simple stupid is not his strong suit.

http://jindalisbad.com/ is a decent site, but hasn't been updated since July.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:26 PM
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27. He's got a funny name
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 05:26 PM by RetroLounge
and I haven't seen his birth certificate yet...

:shrug:

RL
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:27 PM
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30. Jindal's extremist position on abortion makes him near unelectable
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 05:28 PM by galaxy21
He doesn't believe in any exceptions whatsoever.

Heck, even most fundies admit its okay if the woman might die.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:29 PM
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32. He's way to young.. doesn't have enough experience..
wait.. where the hell have I heard that before?

... turning off Rush ...
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:24 PM
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82. Right.
He's a skinny dude with a funny name. His non Christian parents were born in foreign countries. Nah! He hasn't a chance.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:34 PM
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33. He is REALLY young... (37 years old)
In 8 years, he would be a potential monster.

He'd probably run in 2012 just to gain stature.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:36 PM
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34. I doubt he runs against the unstoppable train that will be Obama 2012
He'll wait until '16
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:56 PM
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39. I think you are right -- 2016, he'll be 45 then and much more experienced.
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Sidney J Mussburger Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:04 AM
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63. That's what I'm thinking
2012 will consist of the rejects from this year including Palin.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:41 PM
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37. I still think Pawlenty
He's an evangelical, but not a complete loon that will scare off everyone. He's a very safe option for the republicans.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 09:39 AM
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70. I agree about Pawlenty. We also need to keep our eyes on Paul Ryan, Congressman from
Wisconsin's 1st district. I really think he's a dark horse that could "come out of nowhere". I went to High School with this guy and believe he's been prepped for the Presidency for at least a decade, but his Presidential aspirations have been around much longer than than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)

http://www.house.gov/ryan/
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:49 PM
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38. A Rhodes Scholar and a former Hindu? Hard to believe the repubs would go for him, but he'd be a big
step forward. Fundamentalists in Kentucky voting for Jindal would be really something.

Someone mentioned primary debates with Palin -- that would be AWESOME:

Gwen Ifill asks question about the economy:

Gov. Jindal provides articulate, reasonably intelligent response to question about the economy.

Gov. Palin blows a kiss, then we hear crickets for a few seconds....blank, doe-eyed stare, then, "in what respect, Gwen?? Well, in ALASka...we like to hunt and hunting boosts the economy and energy because energy is really important and hunting and energy are really important."

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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:04 PM
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51. Yeah.. i agree
I don't think her fellow republicans are going to be NEARLY as nice in the early debates as Joe was last month.

They'll have lots of time to prepare, and they know exactly what they're up against. Jindal, Romney, even Huckabee will tear her apart.

She can try to wink her way out of it.. but that's already old.. by 2011 even the Fundies will have ot be sick of it (well.. probably not :puke:)
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 06:45 PM
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40. Yeah, the Republicans are going to put a former Hindu, now Catholic ,Indian guy in for POTUS!
It won't happen. Jindal is very bright, very articulate, and probably the best thing they have going, but the evangelicals want white, baptist, Presidents. Romney won't get in either, because they don't fancy to Mormon's either. Think like a bigot, then you too shall be able to pick the 2012 nominee.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:05 PM
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52. PALIN IT IS!!!!
Fantastic.. let them bigot and box their way into an easy and obvious loss. Fantastic! :)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 02:36 PM
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67. I don't know, I think for the evangelicals the only thing that matters is...
that you're an evangelical. That said, his conversation to Catholic may not wash with them, although it sounds like he can certainly talk the talk.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 06:54 PM
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43. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! He's younger than me!!!!!
Please, please no!

Oooh, I thought I felt old when I became eligable to be President, but the day a President is elected who is actually YOUNGER than me will cap it all.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Oh, and some of his other ideas are nuts too.

David
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 07:03 PM
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45. He will be of concern in 2016
a good candidate for them
but not for me
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:14 PM
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56. Maybe..
but go back to threads ala 2004 here: ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7820326 )

NO ONE thought Obama would be anywhere near the VP slot let alone the the top of the ticket by 2012.. let alone 2008.

I'm just saying.. i wouldn't count anyone out anymore.. i think people are starting to think that having no record is to an advantage when running for POTUS.. and Obama has made the "no experience" issue a moot point.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 07:03 PM
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46. Some of his negatives...
Pro-life, even to the point of sacrificing the mother for the sake of the baby.
He's not known for being a good communicator, although he is smart.
Some campaign contribution issues are a bit gray.

I'm sure there are many others, so please list them. Don't be blindsided by Jindal--the Repugs have been throwing his name up for awhile.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 07:07 PM
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47. If Jindal is serious about running he'll have to move to the centre- or at least make it look
like he is. Same goes for Palin.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:09 PM
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54. Nope..
to the fundie right it was "McCain the CENTRIST" that cost them this election. Go over to Freeperville.. they all think that the party has to move further to the right to survive.. be totally conservitive (ala Reagan).

Totally wrong.. this isn't 1980 again.. but shhhhhhh.. don't tell them that.

If they haven't figured out yet that every 4 years they seem to have more of their (older bigoted) voters die off.. and we get 4 more years worth of newer liberal thinking (ala don't hate gay or minority) people.. then fine. We'll take 1% more every election for the next 50 years.. it's cool!
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:14 AM
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57. I do agree with that- over at FR they keep saying they don't want a moderate
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 10:14 AM by galaxy21
Even though someone ultra right wing would be completely unelectable.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:17 AM
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59. Shhhh...
Don't tell them that. Let Palin & Jindal fight it out for who's "The rightest of them all"... it will be great. ;) "I oppose abortion except for the health of th mother, says Palin. Ohh.. well I Oppose abortion EVEN if it endangers the health of the mother.. HA!" :eyes:

Let them out-fundie each other.. it'll be great to watch.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 07:13 PM
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48. I'd prefer to live in the present, and consider the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:06 PM
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53. I saw plethoria of Jindal ads last year in Texarkana.
It was a friggin' horrible ads. He'd be laughed out of town if he tries that nationally.

Hawkeye-X
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:22 AM
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60. Jindal is the political detritus left in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
Without that storm, he wouldn't be his state's governor.

His ascent, if that's what it is, elevates a guy who's way too conservative to the national level. He'll be on the news talk shows trying to come across as a thoughtful moderate, despite his true identity as a dangerous kook.

I think it's clear that Jindal wants the 2012 GOP nomination, but there are others in his party who want it at least as badly.

Allowing that politics can be mercurial, at this point I am just not seeing Bobby Jindal as the GOP nominee.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:11 AM
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78. NOLA may have given him rise, but it will be his downfall
He has done very little to restore the city and the decaying remains will be the black mark on his career.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:26 AM
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79. Good. Only fair to hold him accountable for his shortcomings.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:10 PM
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80. it will be very easy to do
Just wait until all of the Katrina theft and corruption is uncovered under Obama's admin - Jendal won't be able to get out from under the black mark of histoy - the worse thing that has happened is the failure to rebuild affordable housing and the purging of the lower class - Jendal has not addressed the needs or even acknowledged them.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:23 PM
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81. Yet another shameful record of public service by yet another
Republican.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:50 AM
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61. Ha!! Bobby Punjab
You have to give it to the Republicans, they really do believe in racial division
and tension.

If the Democrats can choose a black guy so can we, the hypocrisy and vindictiveness
is unprecedented. Republicans will never learn.

This is going to be fun to watch.

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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:53 AM
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62. An (East) Indian-American family in New Jersey
had a 6 foot burning cross on their lawn this past week started from the remains of their home-made (from a bedsheet) Obama sign wrapped around the cross. The father had to find a way to explain to his 8-year old why this happened since she was the one who found it.

http://wcbstv.com/local/obama.bias.crime.2.858391.html

As an AA, I say, "Welcome to America".

There are quite a few East Indians in New Jersey (thanks to the pharmaceutical industry there), Mississippi, and apparently other southern states.

Despite the popularity of Bollywood in other circles, if anyone thinks the far RW-racist scum of the Mooselini-wing of the repuke party is going to vote for someone like Jindal who has a "foreigner" background, where they will confuse Hindi with Muslim, and other such nonsense, despite his current Catholicism (and these are the same people who discounted the fact that Obama's father had also converted to Catholicism), are very naive.

These 25% bottom-feeders that infest that party don't look at truths, they make them up while focusing on color of skin, origins of family, and (non-European) "exoticness" of names to find and determine "true Americans". The same might even apply to their opinions of such repuke bulwark ilk such as Distort D'Newza.

It boggles the mind that people are seriously thinking that anyone other than the moderate or elitist repuke would even consider Jindal. Their party is severely fractured now.
And since Mooselini has awakened and energized the previously repressed zombies who are stuck in the early 20th century and who are fully supported by the delusional FReeper community, they are not going to let their sudden star status go away quietly in the night and back into the graveyard. Even if Jindal managed to attract some independents to the party, the 25%ers will make sure that they torpedo that strategy because they have waited too long to get their bizarro world voices heard, and the lunatic fringe RW hate talk radio has accommodated them quite extensively. And certainly Jindal, a Rhodes scholar, wouldn't want to run with an ignorant diva flunkie. And don't discount the neo-cons who were this close >< to taking over the world while bankrupting this country and they will want a piece of that pie as well.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:05 AM
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64. I'll give him this... he was very impressive during the hurricane threat...
He was extremely involved and handled it with real competence.
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mollymongold Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:33 PM
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65. hes going to iowa in a few weeks i heard...
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:34 PM
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66. Shit, this guy is younger than me and is a presidential contender. I'm getting old.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:40 AM
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72. Catholic Converts
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 10:49 AM by olegramps
Many if not not most people who are raised in the Catholic faith do not accept every one of the Vatican's doctrines. Converts are an entirely different case. They have not lived with what many born into the faith regard as little more than superstitious nonsense. They have not had intimate conversations about their questioning of church doctrine. I have an extensive family who were all born into the Catholic faith. My wife is from a family of ten and I have five brothers. Our nieces and nephews number over 80 and 64 grand nieces and nephews in addition to our eight grandchildren. Their religious convictions run from out right rejection to pious, but reserved, devotion. I know of only one who voted for McCain and he is a Catholic priest. We have two nuns in the family. One is an active nun and the other a former nun and both have written the bishop of their objections to his de facto endorsement of McCain on the single issue of abortion.

The convert is a entirely different type of person since they have to confront each and every doctrine and accept them without reservation. These people, I can assure you, tend to be very rigid in their faith. This explains why Jindal accepts the church's teaching that abortion cannot be performed in any case, including rape, incest or even the threat to a mother's life.

It can only assumed, unless he was hiding his convictions, that he agrees with the church's extreme repressive sexual doctrines. These include not only the condemnation of contraception, but condemnation of any sexual activity outside of marriage as being worthy of eternal damnation. You would be hard put to find very many life-time Catholics, let alone younger members, who agree with the church's draconian doctrines regarding human sexuality.

Most Catholics, I would venture to say, would consider his belief in exorcism and miracle healings as nothing more than absolute nonsense. This being the case, Jindal could be under serious scrutiny by many Catholics who would not wonder if he wasn't a secret member of the radical cult of Opus Dei. I would not be in the least surprised that he isn't a member since it has been this organization's goal to get their members into political office in which they can affect policy. These people are intent on transforming what they consider evil secular governments into virtual theocracies.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:43 AM
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73. He's not "pro-Life." He's anti-Choice.
We know he's not pro-Life because he's against stem cell research which could prolong and better the lives of many people effected with a variety of diseases.
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:49 AM
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75. Jindal is a total wingnut
He was the one that organized the stupid purple finger stunt during the SOTU address and he's as fundie as they come. He might fit in with Louisiana but he's too conservative for the country as a whole.
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