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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:55 PM
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Former OK Dem governor rants about OK election results with Dean.
He has an column at OpEdNews talking about his utter frustration with the election results. It's a good column, and he expresses his utter exasperation quite well.

We’re the winner of the national championship for the highest McCain/Palin margin at 65.6 percent; the only state where Republicans gained ground in the state house, senate and statewide offices; and the only state in which McCain/Palin carried every county.

Not one of our 77 counties went democratic, not a single blue dot (see chart). Sen. Obama polled 10.8 percent in Beaver County. This was not out of 100 votes where percentages are easily distorted, but out of 2,462 votes cast.

Now you are thinking that we cannot expect much progressive thought out of a county best known for its cow-chip throwing contest (two tries if you lick your fingers after the first). But I have been to Beaver county and met good people and don’t understand how 89.2% decided Sarah Palin should be vice president of the United States. It’s not just our friends in Beaver scouring the landscape for aerodynamic cow patties. Twenty-one counties fell below 25 percent for Obama and 39 counties, more than half of the 77, fell below 30 percent.


Just about that time Howard Dean (whose name is not to be mentioned in any favorable way in the MSM) called him. He "talked him down"...sort of.

The heart of our most democratic county only allowed Obama to get within 12.2 percent of a single county victory. Howard Dean called me as I was looking at these numbers. He wanted to say, “thank you” … for what I have no earthly idea.

I unloaded about our local results, but Howard didn’t take the bait. His politically correct language has been finely honed from thousands of scathing attacks on each of his utterances. He opined that the economy is much better in Oklahoma than most states and that many other states have a sizable portion of their population that would normally be concerned about leaders who are “different” than they are. But in those states the economy and the need for change overwhelmed their normal reticence to select someone “unlike” them.

Man that guy can talk.

While I am fuming, foaming, uttering and mumbling obscenities, he sounds like he just graduated from The Obama School of Cool. So should we do anything.


So thanks, Howard (whose name is almost forbidden on TV since the election). Thanks for all your hard work.

Oh, and hey, people are noticing that you are not getting mentioned at all. From the Phoenix East Valley Tribune.

I am surprised I haven’t read more this week about how much Barack Obama owes his victory in the presidential race to Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Sure, Obama has charisma, eloquence and a message of hope on his side. But Dean had the vision of how to manage a national campaign involving thousands of ego-driven politicians and prickly volunteers that prepared much of the ground for Obama to walk.

Many Americans remember the former Vermont governor only for the “Iowa scream” that seemed to single-handedly derail his 2004 bid for president (Not true, but that’s how a lot of people recall it). But in that campaign, Dean pioneered a lot of the Internet fund-raising techniques that Obama mastered this year to break all money records for a presidential election.

After Dean took charge of DNC in February 2005, he made two promises: Democrats would take control of Congress in the 2006 elections and the White House in 2008. He said that would be possible only by challenging Republicans directly in traditionally “red” states on issues such as health care, high-paying jobs and alternative energy. He rebuilt the DNC’s spending machine to direct more resources into every state and to specifically target the “Intermountain West” (from Montana to Nevada) because changing demographics meant new voters would be more likely to support Democrats.

In 2006, Dean guided the national party to identify six issues of concern to the entire country and did a remarkable job of convincing individual Democrat candidates to use those issues as the themes of their campaigns. Of course, this strategy was the same concept as Newt Gingrich’s 1994 Contract with America that propelled Republicans into control of Congress for 12 years. The only difference was Dean didn’t try to force every Democrat candidate in every race to commit to the national party’s position on all six issues.


We sort of know why, but that doesn't help. People are noticing.

Thank you, sir, for giving up 4 years of your life.

I think the former OK governor appreciates it also.







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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:58 PM
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1. I'm hoping that Obama acknowledges Howard's hard work by giving him a post...
He really earned it.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:34 AM
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9. EPA
he was a great environmental governor.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:58 PM
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2. We love you, Howard.
Oh yes we do.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:58 PM
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3. I wish Dean would call me about Tennessee's move
further right.

We were left dangling in the wind without any national or state support from the DNC, too.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:01 AM
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4. Every state had staffers...depends on who used them and how.
Unfortunately it looks like they are being removed now.
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EconomicLiberal Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:04 AM
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6. Tennessee has moved further right over the past decade without Obama's help.
Some times the political winds just blow in the other direction. It was smart for us not to invest very much in Tennessee.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:48 AM
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11. Seriously, they wouldn't even vote for Gore in 2000
Turn off the lights, shut off the gas, and put the key in the mail.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:09 AM
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19. If you believe TN's really moved farther right, I have some DINOs and lots of DREs to sell you.
After 2010, when we can count (and recount) the ballots as they were cast, we'll see just how red TN is. Until then, we really have no way of knowing (but don't think we won't be trying to find out).
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:45 PM
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30. Amen, Amen, and Amen!! Same can be said, IMO, for GA and TX if they ever get paper.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:35 AM
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45. I am in Texas...
suburb of fort worth, and I noticed something different this time: there was one electronic voting machine, and 10 paper voting stations. Most people were choosing paper.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:09 PM
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37. We Democrats in Tennessee (except for some of us) are always busy with
circular firing squads, inter-party squabbles, and whining.

We need to get off our asses and do something. I swear, if I hear another TN Democrat complain about Obama and Dean not doing something for them, I'm going to ask what they've done for Obama and Dean. And the whining about not being able to get Obama signs, when spending his money would've been a waste of time here, really ticks me off. We weren't carrying our share of the load.

TN has a situation of real political immaturity, perhaps because the Democrats have controlled the state legislature for over 100 years. This "kick in the butt" might actually be good for us. It may cause us to focus on what we need to do to grow candidates and the grow the party. I can't tell you how many party Executive Committee meetings I've been to where the meeting was focused on either complaining about something or assassinating the character of some Democrat. Almost never did it focus on how to get someone elected. Certainly not if it involved any money or work.

In my county we have no local Dem representatives, no state Dem representatives, and no U.S. House or Senate representatives. We do have a Dem governor thanks to West and Central Tennessee.

For God's sake people, it's our job to make something happen. I know that we need support from the state party (there's hasn't been much for the 10 years I've been here) and the national party, but we're grownups and we're responsible also.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:04 AM
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5. Remember how it used to feel to be told that you don't matter politically?
Thank you Dr. Dean for helping us restore our own value.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:05 AM
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7. We may not have him this time.
And Rahm will be unlikely to favor grassroots interference or involvement.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:27 AM
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8. I hope that howard Dean gets the credit he deserves, and his strategy
continues to be used so in 2010 the Democrats can make even more inroads into local, state and federal elections.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:25 AM
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41. Emmanuel will try to bury him now .... We should be watching this careully---!!!
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:42 AM
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10. Ugh. It's worse than Gov. Walters ever imagined
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 12:43 AM by GrizzlyMan
We do have a 2 term Dem governor who endorsed Obama early on and was in Chicago Tuesday night with a select group of VIPs. But his term is up in 2010 and he can't run again. I fear with the radical shift to the right in the last 8 years (Clinton won several counties in both 92 and 96) were are doomed to another Mel Gibson radical Catholic like Frank Keating or a moonbat evangelical.

The party here is a complete joke and I'm beginning to wonder if I'm going to get involved to do something about it. Inhofe was vulnerable, but all they could come up with was a wet behind the ears state senator who was easily discredited.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:56 AM
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12. Remind me not to visit Oklahoma.
I don't suffer knuckle-dragging idiots very well, and I'm likely to get killed making fun of them.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:21 AM
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14. That's not fair
Remember, over half a million people in Oklahoma voted for Barack Obama. One of the networks had a story a few weeks before the election about Obama's uphill battle in Oklahoma and no money going to the state. The gallant Democrats in Oklahoma raised their own money -- and kept a full-time office open in Oklahoma City!

There's good Democrats there who work hard. Don't NOT visit Oklahoma because of the wingnuts. Oklahoma City is actually quite an attractive city and nothing like I expected when I visited for the rowing championships. Beautiful downtown.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:47 PM
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31. I agree it's not fair, but how do you know how many people voted for Obama?
You have your own way of programming your machines, but do you have regular audits of real paper? It seems to me that's the only way you could know how many people really voted for Obama.

I'd be interested to know.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:46 AM
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20. Okay, I've about HAD it.
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 11:07 AM by michele77
That comment was so over the line.
You're likely to get a talkin' to from me, a 5'1 liberal girl covered in tattoos workin' on her PhD for insulting hardworking Okies. Yeah, we've got our fair share of dipshits...but so does every state (I've got one in mind with a lot of Dems that wouldn't even support their GLBT brethren). I have friends who would slam more progressive information down your throat than you'd know what to do with. And they live in Oklahoma. We have one of the best state universities in the country, presided over by a FORMER DEM senator. So, you can take your sanctimonious insults and shove 'em up your ass.

I grew up in New Jersey and lived in L.A., so don't GIVE me this shit. I love living in Oklahoma, okay? Dammit!

Edit: This version doesn't make me sound like an insane person..
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:29 PM
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26. Could you do us a favor? could you get the tall buildings in OK city
to stop keeping their lights on in the form of a cross?


I went over to see the memorial and was surprised to see 3 or 4 tall buildings all keep their lights on during the weekend to form gigantic crosses. (Maybe they still don't do that - I just found it really creepy.)
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:02 PM
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27. It's only during the holidays...
at least I know when I'm getting close to home when I fly in. And I'm fairly certain the pilots won't have any accidents.

It is extremely embarrassing.. :) I had friends in town once and they're simultaneous reaction once the sun went down was "What in the hell is that about?" This was after passing about 100 churches, one of which looks like a ginormous metal spider.

Still, I pay 600/month in rent for a large house a block from my office on campus, with a giant backyard. And my husband filled up our car the other day and it cost $18. Can't complain about the living, but when I get home, I will do more to change the mindframes of the republikkkans when I can.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:05 PM
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28. $ 600 a month --- I am calling U Haul as we speak
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:11 PM
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29. See??
It's AWESOME!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 02:21 PM
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33. Hey we have a huge lighted cross on the side of a mountain here in Denver..
Visible from anywhere in the city at night. Turns out it's a local funeral home that keeps it shining for all to see. It just makes me shake my head when I see it.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:02 PM
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43. Is that the one near Morrison? n/t
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 08:04 PM by Beartracks
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Mr. Blonde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:59 PM
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40. Wait I'm confused
You make mention of one of the best state universities in the country, but then it sounds like you are describing OU. I think the one you were meaning to talk about is a little further north. :)
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 02:01 PM
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32. In addition to knuckle dragging idiots Oklahoma gave us Woody Guthrie and Will Rogers.
Chew on that. There are plenty of progressives in Oklahoma,but since you've never been there and pee your pants at the possibility of being beaten simply for crossing its borders,I reckon you'll never know.

I have family in the Tulsa area and they all went for Obama. Except for Texas/OU gameday Oklahoma is alright by me.

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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:39 PM
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39. And TX/OU is held in...
Dallas.
Go sooners.

Thanks for the encouragement. We need it in the Sooner State these days.:hug:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:40 AM
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46. Oklahomas only problem...
is it is north of the Red River :)

(Just joking)
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:40 AM
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47. DUPE. nt
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 05:41 AM by awoke_in_2003

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:06 AM
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13. Look on the bright side for us in Texas
Thank you Oklahoma for being more red than Texas. You're making us look good. :)

No seriously, it takes some ground game and you do have to do a lot of it yourselves. We got probably as much help as OK did. Even less if you consider that we are much bigger than Oklahoma both in size and population. Howard Dean and the DNC paid for 3 staff members in Texas. And we are very grateful to have those field organizers. And our wingnut republicans are as nutty as those in OK. All Southern republicans are.

But what we have now is hope. We have been working the trenches since right after the 2000 fiasco. Every race is local. And based on what Howard Dean taught us in Texas we put it to work. Recruit and train candidates to run for everything. We're still not up to having complete slates of opposition candidates, but we are getting better. And women are doing very well running for the Texas House. We've been making gains every 2 years (our regular election cycle). We still haven't won a statewide race in 10 years but we can see it in our sights. This year for the first time in a decade we're within two seats of being in the majority again.

My advice to Oklahoma is do what works for you in Oklahoma, but just keep working it.

Here is our state of the state:
Burnt Orange Report 11/05/08
BOPR Analysis: Texas Democrats Gain for 3rd Straight Cycle
For the third straight general election cycle, Texas Democrats made significant gains in state-level elections. While the Texas House ended up being a topsy-turvy night, at the end of the very long day House Democrats gained at least three more seats -- and will wait to see the results/recount of a fourth that could potentially leave the TX House in a 75-75 tie.

Here's a snapshot of the key story lines in Texas, with more analysis coming later tomorrow:

Democrats Still Lose Statewide -- But Gaining Ground


:kick: for the future of our red south turning blue. And a big :loveya: to Howard who first convinced us that we had the power. Yes we did!

Sonia
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TxBlue Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:29 AM
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15. Yes Okla. helped Texas look progressive
It's hard to believe even Cleveland Co. with O.U. and Norman didn't go blue. Not one single county. There a lot of Indians, more hispanics, not many blacks. Native Americans are funny though...not sure how many are dem. They are strangely some of the most patriotic folks I've ever seen. A very large number of Okies have Indian heritage of some degree.

We're shaking our heads over this but my bil reminded me that OK is 47th in a lot of stats. Public schools aren't that great. Many of us cross the Red River as soon as we're able. I was shocked when they voted in a dem gov. Even my dyed in the wool repub mom voted dem for the gov...first time she ever voted for a dem in her long life.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:17 PM
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22. Texas is 49 in a lot of those stats too
All southern states lie in the bottom of the per capita spending, because in the South the republicans have successfully honed their message of "low taxes as a better quality of life" for people living in the south. It's not true, but people just see the message "money out of your own pockets" and they go livid. Especially now when people are struggling to make ends meet more than ever. What they forget is that we essentially have a very limited safety net thanks to those low taxes, so when you fall here you may very well end up homeless immediately.

People have got to start voting their economic interests again and stop buying into the republican lies. When they say "no new taxes" they only mean it for businesses or the very rich. They certainly intend to raise taxes on the working middle class. And they use other names to make it look like they aren't raising taxes. They raise fees but oh that isn't a tax - it's a fee. Yeah right!

:hi:

Sonia

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:42 AM
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48. Yeah...
but we top the list in teen pregnancies :(
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:20 AM
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16. I'm not getting what you are with the OpEd
Walters is a little upset because the Democratic party made no effort in Oklahoma.
He is not praising Dean IMO.

Anyway, as written above 500,000 people voted for Obama here... LOL more than in New Mexico.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:37 AM
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17. In January, DU ought to pin another donation thread, this time for the DNC. Instead of rushing to
donate to this candidate and that one, when it's too late for him or her to use the money effectively, each of us should donate whatever we can every month or every other month to the DNC and let the DNC use the money wisely.

We will get more bang for our bucks, too, than if we wait. (The acronym "Emily" in Emily's List means Earily Money is Like Yeast.) Don't criticize the DNC before we give it the money and enthusiasm it needs to be truly organized and effective.

It's almost 2009. Mid-terms are 2010. We have such a great head start now. Let's not drop the ball.

Put aside $2.50 a month or more for the DNC, starting January and give every other month until--well, for the rest of your life. Put a reminder between your rent or mortgage payment and your electric bill and treat the DNC contribution the same way as you do your most essential bills.

I believe we can do nothing better for our kids and grandkids.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:26 PM
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24. I got the impression that he was just upset, not with Dean, just upset.
and sort of thinking out loud about his atate.

Florida really had problems. We turned blue for Obama, but that is it. The rest stayed very red.

So I know how he feels.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:26 PM
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25. Dupe
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 12:36 PM by madfloridian
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:45 AM
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18. Any journalist who uses "Democrat"
as an adjective is a little fishy to me.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:59 AM
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21. OK has always had a "brain drain" problem
I don't know that I agree with the excuse "the economy is strong in OK"..they've just learned to adapt to their crummy economy.


Lots of kids stay and go to college there...but then they bolt right/soon after graduation. But then they can't find a job that matches their degree up there so (usually) they come down to TX. They do alot to attract kids to stay and go to one of the state or community colleges, but then they don't follow up on trying to KEEP them there. My sis' kids are taking advantage of this..they can live at home and go to college free (students still have to pay for room and board but tuition is free).


http://www.okhighered.org/okpromise/ohlap-5-7-flyer-2007.pdf

If you promise to take certain courses in high school, earn at least a C+ average in those courses (and in all your courses), stay in school, and stay out of trouble, then the state of Oklahoma promises to pay your college tuition. You must sign up for the program in the eighth, ninth or tenth grade and your family’s income must be $50,000 or less at the time you sign up.
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Then there are the ones who do still live up there, but work down here in TX. Specifically, nurses. I've worked with several who cram several shifts in a row because they "go home to OK" in between their shifts. More hospitals down here so the hospitals have to compete--which means more $$ for nurses. They get to earn a TX based income but still live in Oklahoma's lower cost of living state.



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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 12:26 PM
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23. I wonder what the % comparison is from that last 2 elections.
I think that O bamas message would swing as many as his color would cost him. It's like Stevens in AK that won by the exact same percentage as he did last time. HUH

Latr
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:45 PM
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35. This is from the OK election result website for 2004 and 2008
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:14 PM
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42. Unoffically, Mcain got 16 more votes then Bu$h and Obama got 1637 more then Kerry.
In a fired up elections like this one. That's a little had to swallow. This shows that the dumbing down of America has been a complete success.

Latr
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:04 PM
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34. Howard Dean had a Dream and
it involved us and our Country. We'll never forget Dean's vision and dedication!:patriot::loveya:
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:03 PM
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36. OK, I've been a good Democrat
and kept my mouth shut about one of the biggest problems in Oklahoma and, in my opinion, the biggest reason we went all red this time around. Gene Stipe and his political machine.

For those of you not familiar with our state and its politics, Stipe is a longtime Democratic state senator and is as corrupt as the day is long. He's the Huey Long of Oklahoma and his reach is unparalleled in state government. He was set to face another indictment related to his corrupt machine, but conveniently was ruled incompetent to stand trial.

The Daily Oklahoman is one of the worst rightwing rags in the nation, but this time around they have had legitimate reportage against Democrats because, unfortunately, a great many of them are corrupt. They have featured, day after day, indictments and pleas from a parade of Democratic lawmakers. And that is why we are so red right now.

We need to grit out teeth, do some housecleaning and be ready with a fresh slate of clean, uncorrupted PROGRESSIVE Democrats when the smoke clears. Why not? It's not like we can get any LESS successful in Oklahoma.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:16 PM
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38. We've had some of that in Tennessee, too. We need to clean house and stop permitting
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 04:16 PM by SharonAnn
this political structure that allows a few "powers that be" to control everything. When they do, they just maintain the status quo to line their pockets.

My favorite example here is the man who was the Democratic State Party Chair in 2000 and 2004 has contributed the maximum to Republican candidates in our area for the last few election cycles and not a dime to the Democratic candidates. And it is said that he's a "good Democrat". Yes, he's good at getting Republicans elected and at shutting Democrats out. Sheesh! With friends like him we don't need enemies.

This area used to be full of small towns with a few mills and the mill owners controlled everything. You and your family didn't work anywhere in this town without their permission. Our party structure seems to be like that in Tennessee. They decide who runs where, and they don't give permission for Democrats to run in many areas because they apparently agreed with their Republican friends that they wouldn't contest those races.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:01 AM
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44. The ignoring of Howard since the election has not gone unnoticed at the DNC
I wrote to a good friend of mine who has a high position in the DNC (even before Howard)
and is usually not reluctant to say what is on his mind. I mentioned that Howard's name
was very absent in Obama's victory speech, and in the media since the election. His
comment was "I hear you." When he's THAT short, it means that they have noticed in a big
way. If there is some sort of suicidal movement afoot to marginalize Howard, now that he
has helped get the party exactly where he said he would when he assumed the chairmanship,
this is a good start. I sure as hell hope not. I maxed out my contribution to the DNC before
sending money elsewhere because I knew how little they had taken in. The RNC is flush with
cash, but the DNC is practically running on empty. The fact that Howard accomplished as much
as he did is a testament to his ideas and his creativity. To marginalize him now that he
has accomplished the near impossible is not the wisest move IMHO, not to mention being just
a little unfair.

It may be (although I REALLY hope not) that Rahm Emanuel's closeness to Obama has something
to do with Howard's invisibility right now. Emanuel had shouting matches with Howard during
the 2006 campaign, insisting that Howard abandon the 50 State strategy in favor of the old
formula of concentrating only on those states considered "safe," and abandoning the rest. Does
anyone out there think Obama would have carried Indiana, Virginia and North Carolina if we had
stuck to that scheme?

If the DNC had kept their old leadership, do you really think we would have 57 Senators,
a commanding lead in the House and a President-elect Obama? I, for one, do not.
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