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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:29 PM
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NYT's Rich: It Still Felt Good the Morning After
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 09:45 PM by Pirate Smile
It Still Felt Good the Morning After

By FRANK RICH
Published: November 9, 2008

ON the morning after a black man won the White House, America’s tears of catharsis gave way to unadulterated joy.
Our nation was still in the same ditch it had been the day before, but the atmosphere was giddy. We felt good not only because we had breached a racial barrier as old as the Republic. Dawn also brought the realization that we were at last emerging from an abusive relationship with our country’s 21st-century leaders. The festive scenes of liberation that Dick Cheney had once imagined for Iraq were finally taking place — in cities all over America.

For eight years, we’ve been told by those in power that we are small, bigoted and stupid — easily divided and easily frightened.
This was the toxic catechism of Bush-Rove politics. It was the soiled banner picked up by the sad McCain campaign, and it was often abetted by an amen corner in the dominant news media. We heard this slander of America so often that we all started to believe it, liberals most certainly included. If I had a dollar for every Democrat who told me there was no way that Americans would ever turn against the war in Iraq or definitively reject Bush governance or elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama president, I could almost start to recoup my 401(k). Few wanted to take yes for an answer.

So let’s be blunt. Almost every assumption about America that was taken as a given by our political culture on Tuesday morning was proved wrong by Tuesday night.
The most conspicuous clichés to fall, of course, were the twin suppositions that a decisive number of white Americans wouldn’t vote for a black presidential candidate — and that they were lying to pollsters about their rampant racism. But the polls were accurate. There was no “Bradley effect.” A higher percentage of white men voted for Obama than any Democrat since Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton included.

Obama also won all four of those hunting-and-Hillary-loving Rust Belt states that became 2008’s obsession among slumming upper-middle-class white journalists: Pennsylvania and Michigan by double digits, as well as Ohio and even Indiana, which has gone Democratic only once (1964) since 1936. The solid Republican South, led by Virginia and North Carolina, started to turn blue as well. While there are still bigots in America, they are in unambiguous retreat.

And what about all those terrified Jews who reportedly abandoned their progressive heritage to buy into the smears libeling Obama as an Israel-hating terrorist? Obama drew a larger percentage of Jews nationally (78) than Kerry had (74) and — mazel tov, Sarah Silverman! — won Florida.

Let’s defend Hispanic-Americans, too, while we’re at it. In one of the more notorious observations of the campaign year, a Clinton pollster, Sergio Bendixen, told The New Yorker in January that “the Hispanic voter — and I want to say this very carefully — has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.” Let us say very carefully that a black presidential candidate won Latinos — the fastest-growing demographic in the electorate — 67 percent to 31 (up from Kerry’s 53-to-44 edge and Gore’s 62-to-35).

Young voters also triumphed over the condescension of the experts. “Are they going to show up?” Cokie Roberts of ABC News asked in February. “Probably not. They never have before. By the time November comes, they’ll be tired.” In fact they turned up in larger numbers than in 2004, and their disproportionate Democratic margin made a serious difference, as did their hard work on the ground. They’re not the ones who need Geritol.

....
So even as we celebrated our first black president, we looked around and rediscovered the nation that had elected him. “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for,” Obama said in February, and indeed millions of such Americans were here all along, waiting for a leader. This was the week that they reclaimed their country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/opinion/09rich.html
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:31 PM
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1. Just the headline made me smile
:)

:kick:

and rec :)
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:32 PM
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2. Yes...................It Still Feels Good
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:34 PM
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3. Love that dig at Cokie Roberts
She is so behind the times. No question that she is now irrelevant.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:19 PM
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8. Yes, she is a real fossil
I've seen more original thought from a head of cauliflower.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:25 PM
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12. She is such a tool. I can't stand her. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:38 PM
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4. Feels better today than it did yesterday.
:)
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:20 AM
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25. Sure does
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:44 PM
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K&R
Off to the Greatest Page with thee!

:kick:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:19 PM
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9. You're so full of it, it ain't funny.
You're as bad as a freeper... blaming the media. Guess you forgot how the Supreme Court case Bush v. Gore turned out?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:22 PM
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10. I love Al Gore
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 10:23 PM by senseandsensibility
but Rich's criticism of him is not over the top. I agree with some of it. He was too cautious of a candidate. Now if Rich helped spread the "I invented the internet" rumors or their ilk, I'd be the first to pile on.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:27 PM
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14. Rich was one of the PRIMARY voices saying there was no real difference between Bush and Gore. nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:42 PM
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19. You never stop making shit up because you're pissed that Rich favored Obama this year.
Frank Rich is good at calling out phony liars, isn't he? :)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:26 PM
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13. Being a columnist means never having to say you're sorry. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:03 PM
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6. Rich played a pivotal role in electing George W. Bush. nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:11 PM
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7. Bullshit. You're just pissed Rich mentions one of Hillaryland's racially-divisive primary tactics.
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 10:24 PM by ClarkUSA
One of many fugly examples Rich could have chosen from the Clinton/Rove handbook... from the OP:

"In one of the more notorious observations of the campaign year, a Clinton pollster, Sergio Bendixen, told The New
Yorker in January that “the Hispanic voter — and I want to say this very carefully — has not shown a lot of willingness
or affinity to support black candidates.”



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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:25 PM
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11. No, I went back and read his columns making sport of how silly Gore looked...
in the debates.

Being a columnist means never having to say you're sorry.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:45 PM
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21. Furnish proof of your assertions (quotes and links) because...
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 11:05 PM by ClarkUSA
Being a columnist means having whack job axe-grinding Hillaryland Kool-Aide drinking bloggers blame you
for losing past presidential elections (that were decided by the Supreme Court) for telling the truth about
presidential candidate's lies and flubbs on the campaign trail.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:27 PM
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15. Beautiful.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:29 PM
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16. Still feels good
So much for those "bitter" voters and young people not showing up. :rofl:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:37 PM
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17. That is what I love in the column - him pointing out all those negative stereotypes/CW of
every different group of Americans along with the idea that people are just generally stupid and easily manipulated by fear and division.

To quote the President-Elect: "Not this time".

Working whites, Hispanics, Jews, Young people, white people in general (the "Bradley Effect" lurking in their nasty hearts) - all shown to be total bullshit. Fear didn't work. Hope won. :)
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:41 PM
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18. Wow ... now that Frank mentions it ... I DO feel like we're getting out of an abusive relationship
with Bush, Cheney, PNAC, assorted neocons, et al.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:45 PM
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20. Every time I read a Frank Rich piece, I say to myself, "This is his best ever."
This is no exception.

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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:55 PM
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22. I am head over heels in love with the idea of an Obama presidency
The feelings are exactly the same. I think of 4-8 years of President Obama and I smile broadly and a total joy sweeps over me.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:58 PM
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23. That damn Rich scores again !
:-)
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:17 AM
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24. "The soiled banner" that McCain picked up. Yep. n/t
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:59 AM
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26. My favorite quote in that article...
Even the North Carolina county where Palin expressed her delight at being in the “real America” went for Obama by more than 18 percentage points.

:rofl:

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