One more picture of the Palin baby prop for old times sake---

[trumad]

I gotta say---the only thing that I felt sorry for on the Repub side this whole election, was for this poor damn baby. She holds the baby like one of her RNC paid for--- Louis Vuitton's.

[murray hill farm]

1. Yep...always holds the baby like it is a sack of potatos..

always facing away from her. Never saw one pic with her holding the baby up against her and facing her. I too, feel so sad for that child. Her body language says it all about how she feels about him.

[H2O Man]

2. I agree 100%.

The little girl has shown affection for the baby. But Sarah has not. I've never seen Todd even looking at the baby.

[CountAllVotes]

3. the baby is severely disabled

he may never get beyond this stage either. This is a side to Down Syndrome that is rarely shown to the public. Many Down Syndrome children grow into adults and eventually end up in institutions for the rest of their lives being they never get beyond this stage of development. You never see him smile or look at anything.

It is not helping one bit that Ms. Palin doesn't seem to give a damn about this little boy "Trig". She doesn't deserve to have any children given the way I've seen her treat him.

I feel very sorry for this little boy. :(

:dem: :kick:

[Ian David]

9. Trig? I thought she named him Bong. n/t

[babydollhead]

55. funny!

[PearliePoo2]

14. CountAllVotes ...I believe you are correct.

CountAllVotes wrote
"You never see him smile or look at anything."

Actually, I've never seen him awake or even with his eyes open until just now with this photo.
Using him as a prop at her campaign "hate-fests" and exposing him to the horrendous decibel level of her roaring, screaming "mob groupies" was abuse at a minimum.

With a compromised immune system, this little guy was also exposed and threatened with a huge array of illnesses and communicable diseases.

McWolfKiller apparently decided the gains outweighed the risks. Shame on you, Sarah.

[CountAllVotes]

33. I know I am right

My late brother was disabled and was in a "home" for a few years. Said home was filled with "mongoloids" (aka Down Syndrome kids). Some of them were about 1/2 the size of an adult and just laid there in diapers all day and waited to be turned periodically by the woman that was running this "home". They used to scream loudly now and then and I was quite frightened by this place being I was just a little kid at the time.

My brother did not have Down Syndrome. I believe he was what is now called "autistic". He died a few years ago at the age of 44 years of cancer.

As for the kids in that "home" - I believe that once they became too big to handle physically, they were moved to a life in an institution was my understanding.

Sarah says he'll be in Kindergarten in 5 years. I say no damn way and yes, I agree with you!

SHAME ON YOU SARAH PALIN! YOU ARE ABUSING A VERY SICK/DISABLED CHILD!!

:dem: :kick:

[KatyMan]

48. Downs Syndrome Kids Can and Do attend school

I don't know where some of the posters are getting their information on Downs Syndrome, but as a registered nurse and a certified teacher, let me advise you:

Downs syndrome children certainly can and do attend school. In fact, it is public policy/law that they be allowed to attend public schools (IDEA). Gone are the days when society "banished" them to institutions. These kids can live long and productive lives. They can learn. They get jobs. Look around your supermarket- Kroger's is a big employer of the disabled. The actor who portrayed a kid with Downs Syndrome on Life Goes On (TV show) has Down's Syndrome.

I see these kids everyday (I am a school nurse in a large urban school district). They are delightful and interact with their peers.

(Kentish Man's wife)

[CountAllVotes]

53. this is true

however, not all Down Syndrome kids make it to school. Some do not have this ability as the level of disability can be very severe. It is hopefully not common, but I have seen it. :( :( :(

[KatyMan]

54. This is true for a very small number

of kids diagnosed with Downs. The vast majority of kids with Downs do attend school, many graduating from high school (although mostly from "resource rooms". You would be surprised at the number of kids with all kids of disabilities in public schools- Thankfully! It is actually the law that ALL children be allowed access to public schools.

[PearliePoo2]

12. I found this sentence in an article re: Down Syndrome and special care requirements

"Infants with Down Syndrome may require special handling. Because of their poor muscle tone and hyper-mobile joints, these babies can be more easily injured. Good neck and back support when lifting, bathing, etc., can reduce the chance of accidental injury."

"Life is Precious" hypocrite Sarah, seems to be deliberately ignoring these suggested precautions. Frequently, she packs her baby with just one arm under his rib cage, allowing his head to bob around unsupported. This also puts an enormous strain on his internal organs,(heart, intestines) which are frequently compromised in a DS baby.
DS babies are also prone to severe respiratory infections.

Way to go, Sarah. No hat or shoes for your baby in Anchorage when it was 10 degrees outside.
If this baby survives, it will not be because of her care for him.
She's one disgusting, negligent mother.

[TahitiNut]

42. Or a muddy dog that she doesn't want to soil her clothes.

Her kids are like HOSTAGES ... really twisted and bizarre.

[Heather MC]

58. Dear Sappy Failin, this is how you hold a baby,

[blondeatlast]

4. Has she ever been seen even looking at that child? Or holding it in a loving,

nurturing way?

Trig's worst handicap, poor thing, is that he will never be out of the public eye. Only his parents can rescue hom from that handicap but they won't.

[dissemination]

5. I am glad she is holding him securely while walking.

[liberal renegade]

7. so if she falls he does a face plant.

most mothers carry their baby facing them and riding the hip.

[lunatica]

18. Mustn't have the baby throw up on her new clothes now must we?

At least Trigs other siblings hold him in a loving way. That's one good thing about her seeming lack of maternal actions. She hands him off to her kids who obviously love him.

[liberal renegade]

43. I noticed

Turd carrying him the same way, and that was only one time.

[lunatica]

19. duplicate post

[JetCityLiberal]

16. Quit defending that race baiting slime ball

She is hideous. You keep showing up to defend that slime.

Paul

[QueenOfCalifornia]

24. You're kidding, right?

I never would have walked around carrying my babies like she has done whenever I have seen her hold the poor, little baby.

She is using one arm. She doesn't want to hold him up on herself, next to her shoulder or cradled in her arms as I did when "walking" with my little ones. I used the one arm technique if I was at the sink getting something or had to answer a phone - but never when I "walked" anyplace.

I looked into my babies faces very often - no matter who I was talking with. I wanted that mother to child connection.

No matter what she is doing, a mother, who loves her child holds the baby close to protect his or her little head.

Okay?

[JeffR]

29. Good God. I'm a childless middle aged fraternity alumnus

and even I know you don't hold a baby like that.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

30. So Jeff

where's the DUzy's?

:P

[JeffR]

32. Still in progress

I've developed a bad case of what doctors call DUzy Neck, a condition resulting from repetitive alt-tab, alt-E-C, alt-E-P keystrokes, so I was just scanning current threads.

OK. Back to it.:eyes:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

50. Okay...

If you say so. :)

[Midlodemocrat]

35. Oh, please. She holds him less securely than I hold a bag of groceries.

[Zuiderelle]

40. You seem to be a pretty big Palin fan, based on your recent posts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7819246&mesg_id=7828629
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=399922#399942
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7834288#7834963
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7829229&mesg_id=7831557
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7816918#7820635
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7828420&mesg_id=7828518

And you Feel for McCain and his family?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7799200&mesg_id=7799928

[PearliePoo2]

41. Good job on the research PelosiFan

Someone got lost on their way to a site "which shall remain un-named".

[JimDandy]

49. This poster either thinks McCain is still rewarding his supporters

for posting repub spin on Dem forums, or this is an effort to rehab Palin for 2012 by widely posting (disseminating) defensive diatribe.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

51. wow

I think you have unearthed a troll.

over at the FR it is impossible to find anything much less do a comprehensive search...

[Grateful for Hope]

47. There is a huge difference

between holding a baby in a merely custodial way, and holding the baby lovingly. In both instances, the baby is "safe", but, it is only in the latter instance that the baby feels loved and secure.

[Lancer]

6. The only one who ever held that baby in a loving way was Piper.

[Ian David]

10. Maybe Piper is the real mommy? n/t

[LisaL]

22. Piper is six years old.

:spank:

[Ian David]

38. Oh. Probably not then, I guess. n/t

[mtnsnake]

8. She holds that baby just like any other 8 year old girl would.

[blondeatlast]

11. I thought it was more like a reluctant father. nt

[Sannum]

13. She is trash.

This picture says "Goin' to the Wasilla Wal-Mart go pick up some Jack Daniels, meth supplies and diapers"

[kleec]

15. hurtful treatment

I recall reading an article where is was stated that bright lights and loud and sudden noise was harmful to children with DS. I do not remember where I read that, but from what I can see that information got past Trig's parents. As a Mom and Grandmom I have always carried a baby facing me, never over my arm like another accessory! If nothing else turned me against this woman, her handling of this child did that......immediately! I feel so badly for this little guy, but at least he seems to have a caring 'big sis', if not a caring set of parents. Christ what is wrong with those people. I also blame the RNC and the McCain's campaign for not being much more alert to the dangers to this child. It will be nice to have grownups around for awhile, I am so sick of these people!

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. Brittney Spears Palin

[riderinthestorm]

20. I agree with the other poster: she carries him like this to protect her clothes from drool/vomit

I am dead cert that she carries him like this because she is more concerned about her clothes than him. She has to appear clean for the cameras at all times doncha know.

She doesn't demonstrate any loving gestures towards this baby that I have ever been able to see. It's creepy. Her obscene usage of her kids as props is very disturbing. From telling Bristol on the plane that she was going to be exposed on national teevee, to going back to work 3 days post "birth" (cough), Sarah Palin doesn't appear to have a single maternal bone in her body.

[Honeycombe8]

21. Cute baby. nt

[renate]

23. it really is almost pathological, the way she doesn't carry him so she can see his face

It's just weird. The maternal (or paternal--I've seen Todd carrying him normally) instinct is to hold a baby so you can look into its face. Babies love looking at faces, and normal parents love looking into their babies' eyes.

Never mind that he isn't just an object to be toted around--it's bad enough that she isn't concerned with keeping him supported and comfortable--but her avoidance of the simplest form of human contact with him--looking at each other--is disturbing.

[TwilightGardener]

25. Yep--moms have hips for a reason--laundry baskets and babies.

Your baby wants to see your face, feel close to you--you don't get that from being held out mechanically, lugged around like a sack of poop. She's one of the least-natural mothers I've ever seen.

[SoCalDem]

26. Her children have raised themselves.. ADN articles going back a while

(before she was veep), mentioned how their high-schooler (Track The Soldier) "went to school" for a while in Michigan...attended...not graduated..) He stayed with "friends"..

Bristol had "mono, aka Trig", for 8 months "mid-term '07" school year, and apparently just "hung out all winter", and was not even allowed visits or calls from friends..although she ventured out long enough to have a car accident accross from a clinic in Wasilla..

Based on the "pre-purge" photos, the only one Sarah bothered with much was Piper.. Sarah strikes me as a person who enjoys the attention that a baby or young child attracts, but once those kids start getting older, they end up like the "grown up" puppy..shunted off to the side, and left to their own devices..

Her casual remark about Trig going to kindergarten, struck me as odd too.. Does she really think that he will progress at the same rate as her other kids did?

People I know who have handicapped kids, give those kids 115% of their time, and stop at NOTHING to get those kids every bit of specialized treatment/therapies they can find.

Sarah uses that little guy as an "ornament", to atrratct sympathy and admiration for HER.. Mrs Moose, may be Mrs Münchhausen...except that the baby really does have medical issues...she just seems to be NOT getting him the treatment he needs, so she can have him with her all the time, to make others sympathetic to HER.. Everything's about Sarah..:puke:

[TwilightGardener]

27. Yep, those kids are accessories for her--that's why the funky, stupid "look what a

creative free thinker I am!" names. I mean "Track Enfield"? She shouldn't be allowed anywhere near any sort of decision-making power on that basis alone--I mean, how fucking idiotic. And like you say, then she gets tired of them, like the puppy that grew up and is no longer "cute"--except, of course, when they join the Army, and then you can use them politically.

[PearliePoo2]

28. Track Enfield?????? No...you're joking...right?

right?..... right?
:wtf:

[Greg K]

31. nope - that's his name. nt

[PearliePoo2]

36. Bristol had "mono, aka Trig", .......BINGO..SoCalDem

SoCalDem wrote:
"Her casual remark about Trig going to kindergarten, struck me as odd too.. Does she really think that he will progress at the same rate as her other kids did?"

If she does, then she is in massive denial. I think she is so narcissistic she can't come to terms with the fact her son/grandson isn't "Aryan perfect".

Down Syndrome children may vary in their IQ, in a range from 30 to 70. At the high end of this scale, a DS adult may be able to eventually read at a 3rd or 4th grade level.

It's apparent that, so far, Trig isn't getting ANY special care or therapy. In fact, it's just the opposite. It's hard to imagine that kindergarten and beyond, won't be a struggle for him.

[Duppers]

60. Great post, SoCal. Very insightful.

Palin's children are mainly props to her. There is no doubt about this fact.

I especially like what you said here:
"Sarah strikes me as a person who enjoys the attention that a baby or young child attracts, but once those kids start getting older, they end up like the "grown up" puppy..shunted off to the side, and left to their own devices.."

Those people can also be control freaks, ruling their children with unsympathetic iron hands. I'm speaking from experience. :(
Many very religious people are like this. No sympathy, no empathy. Only rules.

Such an attitude reminds me of this thread:
(Senator) Kyl issues warning to Obama on Supreme Court appointments
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3589012

[PearliePoo2]

39. As disturbing as this might sound........

I don't think she wants to see his face.

:cry:

[blondeatlast]

44. Moms can sense this, I think--she's emotionally detached from that poor child.

I believe he's hers but there's something not right about the relationship.

[Tatiana]

45. OMG yes. I think that's it. As a mother it's so disturbing to watch the way she treats that child.

:cry:

My heart literally hurts for that poor baby.

[Lars39]

34. I wonder if they got him to the doctor for his regular check-ups during the campaign?

Seemed like I was always at the doctor's office for their check-ups or because they were sick at that age.

[SoCalDem]

37. Yep.. I had two within 12 months, and for three years, we practically LIVED

and the pediatrician for this check up or that..or for ear infections or colds..

Babies like Trig often have vision issues or heart involvement too.. It cannot be "good" for him to be exposed to all the germs they have subjected him to...just for the PR..

That baby has grandparents who should be watching him back in Alaska, and taking him for doctor's appointments..and those other kids belong in SCHOOL..

a photo op here and there is one thing.,.and a big whoopdeedoo, if the parent wins, but being "on the road" 24-7 is not in their best interests..

[Lord Helmet]

46. she handles him like a duffle bag

[Neutralator]

52. Notice: She's holding something else with her hand... the baby is just hanging in there!!!

...i have never seen anyone hold baby like this. Is this a normal way to hold babies??

[Imagevision]

56. How fast did Palin's ratings drop?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

57. I'm glad Obama was classier than this.

[npk]

59. If I were the good people of Alaska.

I would demand she take that stupid shirt off and never wear it again.