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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:05 PM
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Why does Mel Martinez hate America?
Why doesn't he want SCHIP signed into law? Why doesn't he care if Children get healthcare?

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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:09 PM
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1. Children getting healthcare is socialist.
And, of course, Mr. Martinez wouldn't want that... The good news is that if the FL Presidential election results count for anything, Martinez is going to have to move away from being a wingnut or his state's own demographic trends are going to bite him in the ass come 2010.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:10 PM
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2. 2010
The 2010 Republican Senate Race Target List

Robert Bennett (R-UT)
Christopher "Kit" Bond (R-MO)
Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
John Thune (R-SD)
David Vitter (R-LA)
George Voinovich (R-OH)
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:13 PM
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5. YES, SWEEP THE REPUBLICANS OUT EVERYWHERE
WHICH ONE WILL YOU PERSONALLY TARGET????
Robert Bennett (R-UT)
Christopher "Kit" Bond (R-MO)
Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
John Thune (R-SD)
David Vitter (R-LA)
George Voinovich (R-OH)
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:46 PM
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11. The ones we might get are Bunning and Voinovich....
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:50 PM
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12. The problem with defeating Bunning
is that we only have a shot at knocking him out if the little green doctors don't get to him first!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7SVEvAyp4M
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:11 PM
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3. Be serious. Saying he hates America because of his position on that is the same
as the Repubs saying Obama hates America by wanting to bring troops home.

When they discuss SCHIP, I THINK they're talking about the EXPANSION of SCHIP. SCHIP is already law. But a bill was proposed in the last several years to expand it. The Republicans were against it, saying it didn't enlarge the program to cover more poor children; it enlarged the program to cover more lower class children who don't really qualify for medicaid type coverage. Dems think the program SHOULD be enlarged to include children on the cusp...not dirt poor, but families don't have enuf $$$ to provide healthcare for them. Repubs say that is more than a "help the poor" program; the enlargement makes it too close to a socialized healthcare program.

That's my understanding. Neither side hates America. They just have different positions on that bill.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:13 PM
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6. I think the OP may be referencing this piece of idiocy from Martinez
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:30 PM
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9. I don't think so. Martinez was on MTP & they discussed SCHIP today.
I think that's what the OP is talking about. Her post references SCHIP, not Obama's anything, much less his tax plan.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:39 PM
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10. OK; I just assumed that they might be b/c of the
"why does Martinez hate America?" headline and Martinez's earlier statement re: Obama's economic policies not "being what Americanism is all about." I see your distinction, though.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:11 PM
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4. Check his campaign donors-- perhaps the insurance industry supports him.
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 01:12 PM by Overseas
Whether or not he hates America is for someone else to decide.

Whether or not he hates anything that brings us closer to national health insurance is probably more directly affected by his campaign donors.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:16 PM
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7. Mel Martinez only beat Democrat Betty Castor by 1% (49.5 to 48.4) in the 2004 election.
When he's up in 2010, it shouldn't be too difficult to get him out.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:24 PM
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8. Mel Martinez has always been a do nothing obstructionist from
...when he was in the Florida State legislature, then as Bush's appointed Director of HUD and more recently as U.S. Senator from Florida. Martinez does shit for anyone but his buddies. Just one example following Katrina:

<snip>
Disaster profiteering: the flood of crony contracting following hurricane Katrina.(THE DISASTER AFTER THE DISASTER)

AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA CAME ASHORE, President Bush promised relief for those in the Gulf region affected by the storm. But the relief he has been most generous in delivering has been to contractors.

That at least is the view of a growing number of government watchdogs and congressional critics, who say a series of exemptions to competitive bidding and other procurement requirements adopted by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Army Corps of Engineers has effectively turned the Gulf region reconstruction and cleanup contracts into a feeding frenzy for "disaster profiteers"--a network of crony contractors for whom the $200 billion cleanup and reconstruction promises to be a significant windfall.

They say FEMA's no-bid and limited-bid contracts are of such magnitude that they will give prime contractors an advantage that will last far beyond the initial emergency phase, and put local contractors at a distinct disadvantage.

By the end of September, there were ominous signs that the same pattern of "fundamentally flawed contracting strategies" described by congressional investigators as the cause of the epidemic of waste and corruption witnessed in Iraq was beginning to repeat itself in Louisiana and Mississippi. Many of the same companies involved in Iraq--Fluor, Bechtel, CH2M Hill and Halliburton--are now poised to clean up at home.

And some in Congress seem only too willing to provide them a helping hand. In late September, for example, Senator Mel Martinez, R-Florida, reserved a room on Capitol Hill for a "Katrina Reconstruction Summit" co-sponsored by Halliburton.

CONTRACTING OUT CONTRACTING OUT

"You are likely to see the equivalent of war profiteering--disaster profiteering," says Danielle Brian, director of the Project on Government Oversight, which is monitoring the contracts.

But the contractors say the critics are off base. Randal Perkins, the founder of Florida-based Ashbritt, which has received one of the largest cleanup contracts for debris removal in Mississippi, says no one from his company attended Martinez's summit. While he and his wife have donated $10,000 to Martinez's Senate campaign fund since 2000, he says anyone who knows how the disaster contracting game works knows that the contracts are secured long before the storms hit shore and have nothing to do with lobbying on the Hill or campaign contributions.

"We have more pre-positioned contracts than any other company in the country because we are the best in the business," Perkins says. "I'd ask the people who are complaining--where they were five years ago when these contracts were bid nationally?"
<MORE>

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-14946659_ITM

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